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That's interesting. After my problems with mine, I called CLE and talked to Frank. He said they hadn't had good luck with the Black Dog magazines. Based on what he said, I never bothered to try one.
Speaking of cleaning, I also found that beeswax lubricated bullets (Match, Edge) fouled up the action really quickly. The Paraffin lubed bullets (Target, Club) are much cleaner. It appears the gun will run without cleaning with paraffin lube long enough to get through a 150 round match. Not so much with goopy beeswax.
Sorry to have taken so long to check back on this thread - all three of the Black Dog mags work flawlessly in my CLE .22RF upper. Just wish they'd see fit to make these 10rd mags with the same body size as military 20rd mags so I should shoot prone or off the bench with them. These are the same length as a GI 30rd mag.Please report back if the black dog mags work for you. I'll get some if so.
Tracking says my Eley Target and Club test lots of ammo show up today. I'm excited to see if any of them work.
Just wish they'd see fit to make these 10rd mags with the same body size as military 20rd mags so I should shoot prone or off the bench with them. These are the same length as a GI 30rd mag.
It sounds like there are several great options for a dedicated AR upper or barrel. Has anyone tried the Volquartsen barrels in an upper? I've been looking at one to have a dedicated AR that will shoot with my other rimfires, instead of the average at best groups I'm getting with my 15-22 PC.
I just read the other day keystone quit the 22 upper business , I don’t know if it’s trueKeystone Accuracy Green Mountain Match 22lr AR barrel/upper if you're looking for accuracy. Mine is a tack driver
I just read the other day keystone quit the 22 upper business , I don’t know if it’s true
When you get a chance to shoot this barrel would you let me know what kind of accuracy it's giving you? They have a 10.5" stainless barrel that looks great if I don't end up going Keystone or CLE. Unfortunately a hold has been put on this project until I graduate this May, but I'm thinking this would make a nice graduation present to myself!
Ben
I ordered mine on April 10 of this year. I think it was 3-wks to receive it.Did you get your keystone after they said they were through making them ?
which do you like best ?
I've seen mixed results with JP's uppers/supermatch 22 kits, a couple have posted great groups with theirs but others seem to struggle, myself included. JP's 22 barrels/uppers appear to be more about reliability than max precision. The instructions for the JP Supermatch 22 barrel kit say you can expect 1.5-2MOA for cheaper target/match ammo, 2-3 MOA for high velocity stuff, and you "may" get down to 1MOA with top end match ammo at 50yds, and that would basically reflect my experience. My guess is JP didn't use a super tight chamber in order to ensure great reliability.What about a JP?
The CMMG bolt is the most supported out there right now. My 18" Lothar Walther barrel shoots great. I've had several 1.5" (10 shot) groups at 100yds with it with a couple different ammos. Once nice thing about the CMMG setup is that you can add the redi-mag adapter or the catch22 bolt-hold-open and use the Smith&Wesson magazines for last bolt hold open function. The S&W mags work great. The Black Dog mags work very well to but the bolt is stopped on the plastic follower on the last shot. I've also added some weight behind the bolt (borebuddy.com) to reduce bolt bounce a little too. For me this resulted in a smoother cycle. There's a fella that goes by Steel Shooter at rimfirecentral.com selling an 18" Lothar Walther Barrel right now. I think the 18" version I (we) have was a limited run but the 16" version on their website has been shooting great for many I've read too.I’m wanting to put together or buy an upper , 18-20 , mid weight , accurate though , black dog mags is a plus , since it looks like you have a little experience what do you suggest ?
I have a cmmg (wasp?)
Tacsol lite weight
UBR stocks sure do make a rifle look goodHad a Keystone dedicated 22rf rifle built a while back using a Benchmade 2 groove barrel, very accurate
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