Without a doubt the lightweightWhich fill would be better for kids with less grip strength?
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Without a doubt the lightweightWhich fill would be better for kids with less grip strength?
@Steel head is right. The lightweight gets really firm when compacted and it doesn’t take much pressure to compact. Guys who use too much cheek pressure (up and to the left 2 mils on every shot) and guys who can’t keep ahold of the bag through recoil will benefit from using it.Which fill would be better for kids with less grip strength?
@Steel head is right. The lightweight gets really firm when compacted and it doesn’t take much pressure to compact. Guys who use too much cheek pressure (up and to the left 2 mils on every shot) and guys who can’t keep ahold of the bag through recoil will benefit from using it.
I Just ordered one. If it works out, I’ll need to discuss an embroidered design for another@Steel head is right. The lightweight gets really firm when compacted and it doesn’t take much pressure to compact. Guys who use too much cheek pressure (up and to the left 2 mils on every shot) and guys who can’t keep ahold of the bag through recoil will benefit from using it.
@Steel head is right. The lightweight gets really firm when compacted and it doesn’t take much pressure to compact. Guys who use too much cheek pressure (up and to the left 2 mils on every shot) and guys who can’t keep ahold of the bag through recoil will benefit from using it.
Went ahead and pulled the trigger on a 3d ELR with light fill. Figured it may be nice to have an actual rear bag for comps as well as gun development work. Super excited to get it out and give it a try
I look forward to hearing how it performs!Got the same one a couple weeks ago for similar reasons — taking mine to the range for the inaugural run this weekend and likewise can’t wait
Which fill do you have in your 3d ELR?So far I'm really liking the 3D ELR. Here's some comparison photos. The tan one is the ELR, olive drab is a Str8 Laced bag with some fill I got from Hobby Lobby. The original Str8 Laced fill really sucks in my opinion. View attachment 7372649View attachment 7372650View attachment 7372651View attachment 7372652View attachment 7372653
Both of my ELR's have the standard fill. I'm thinking of buying some fill for my Str8 Laced.Which fill do you have in your 3d ELR?
I sure hope this holds for my order, means Ill have it for my first nrl22 match of the year!Ordered mine July 1st and got it on the 8th. I live in NV.
I ordered on the 10th also.What's the normal shipping time these days? Ordered a 3d elr with light fill a week ago and haven't had an update yet. Not complaining, just excited
What's the normal shipping time these days? Ordered a 3d elr with light fill a week ago and haven't had an update yet. Not complaining, just excited
Sorry guys we have been hammered with orders. Everything thats more than a couple of days old is going out today. The rest should go out monday unless it's black multicam as we ran out of webbing and the new order hasnt come in yet.I ordered on the 10th also.
No worries. Would have loved to try it out at the Spearpoint ELR match tomorrow, but it can wait till next monthSorry guys we have been hammered with orders. Everything thats more than a couple of days old is going out today. The rest should go out monday unless it's black multicam as we ran out of webbing and the new order hasnt come in yet.
No apology needed. Thank you for the response. And the shipping notificationSorry guys we have been hammered with orders. Everything thats more than a couple of days old is going out today. The rest should go out monday unless it's black multicam as we ran out of webbing and the new order hasnt come in yet.
An ELR 3D bag with light fill....got me a 6", a 5", and an 8" group in a 1000yd bench rest match today...shooting tactical class with an Atlas Bi-pod and the PU rear bag.....on a concrete bench.....just saying...the bags are solid performers....oh....and it also got me another 1 mile win...can't forget that.
Right on man we appreciate the feedback!Received in my new bag last night. I have been using a mini gamechanger as my rear bag for about a year and after about 10 mins of dry fire with this all I can say is WOW! Wont have a chance to make the range before the match tomorrow but I already know my score will improve with just this change!
She’d like the regular fill then.I’m liking mine. My wife thinks it’s not as solid since she’s used to a bunny ear bag. I like how the light fill behaves. Have to get my boys to give it a try next time we’re out
If you can get her set on a side where the stock can sink into the bag a decent amount the corners will fold in and mimic a rabbit ear bag. This is especially the case on the ELR because of its shape but the 3d will do it too more so on the shorter side(not flat but not the tall side).I’m liking mine. My wife thinks it’s not as solid since she’s used to a bunny ear bag. I like how the light fill behaves. Have to get my boys to give it a try next time we’re out
That’s how I normally use the 3D lite fill.If you can get her set on a side where the stock can sink into the bag a decent amount the corners will fold in and mimic a rabbit ear bag. This is especially the case on the ELR because of its shape but the 3d will do it too more so on the shorter side(not flat but not the tall side).
Which bag are you using?The way my rifle stock is designed and perhaps based on my positioning i often have to layer bags or find myself squatting lower that comfortable. It's too old a design and so doesn't have a bag rider.
Do you happen to make an 8 inch or 9 inch tall rear bag that would still fold up a bit to yield the rabbit ear configuration.....(preferably not a huge block /front bag type) if that makes sense?
The way my rifle stock is designed and perhaps based on my positioning i often have to layer bags or find myself squatting lower that comfortable. It's too old a design and so doesn't have a bag rider.
Do you happen to make an 8 inch or 9 inch tall rear bag that would still fold up a bit to yield the rabbit ear configuration.....(preferably not a huge block /front bag type) if that makes sense?
this is the bag i currently use but it's not a great design, there are little ring holes so filler leaks out...i finally was able to get some tape on the inside cavity, i teased it through the tiny fill valve so it no longer leaks but i seem to fight the bag, it's not forgiving...maybe it's the filler i'm using? walnut shell turns to fine dust and ends up leaking. I purchased some little plastic beads which are ok but the bag doesn't really conform to the stock (the tall side doesn't indent much if at all and if i use the 4 inch side it's not tall enough so i end up stacking bags...the other being a sock filled with rice.
Amazon.com : TufForce Shooting Rest Bag, Brick Size 4" x 7" x 9", for Front or Rear of Rifle or Pistol, TL-SB03F : Gun Racks And Accessories : Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com : TufForce Shooting Rest Bag, Brick Size 4" x 7" x 9", for Front or Rear of Rifle or Pistol, TL-SB03F : Gun Racks And Accessories : Sports & Outdoorswww.amazon.com
i'll check out the tab rear bag...thank you
We’re working with Frank to hopefully put out a new series of bags, not to change the bags we have. It’s all about how you use your bag. One size doesn’t fit all. This is literally why our company started. Guys with less experience tend to like a bag that’s filled more full. It makes it easier for them to keep the stock where they want it. We don’t want guys relying on the bag too much but reality is that most guys are. We’ve sold well over 1000 rear bags and have had maybe 5 guys request less fill after running the bag. We’re happy to adjust it down and have done so but the overwhelming majority of guys want the bag filled more. That plus the locking fill is what instantly makes guys shoot better.The rear bag is one of the most essential pieces imo of fundamentals of marksmanship. I've gone through so many rear bags... my favorites have been the PU bag and the TAB bag. I heard that on lowlight's podcast that he's been working with PU on making their bag better. PU has the best fill, but the dimensions don't quite work out for me. I want the strap to be a little looser. I want it to be a little less filled.
We can make anything you can dream up. We’ve done some extra y’all bags for guys. Just make sure you distinguish between cur size and compacted size. Our xl ELR is 8.5-9 cut size but it compacts to around 5”. Let me know how y’all you want it to compact and I can make it happen.The way my rifle stock is designed and perhaps based on my positioning i often have to layer bags or find myself squatting lower that comfortable. It's too old a design and so doesn't have a bag rider.
Do you happen to make an 8 inch or 9 inch tall rear bag that would still fold up a bit to yield the rabbit ear configuration.....(preferably not a huge block /front bag type) if that makes sense?
that was very interesting....
what i've been trying to do and what i thought was correct when shooting prone for example was to level the rifle by setting the rear of the stock on the bag while chest/shoulder pocketing the recoil pad and slightly drawing the rifle into me so that i could comfortably see through the scope and such that the rifle pointed at my target. (I believe NPA stands for natural point of aim?). And of course drawing myself into the bipod with my chest just a bit to load it.
I gently squeeze the tightly filled bag to adjust for breathing induced vertical displacement.
i guess i thought by fixing the rear of the rifle or rather making the rear very stable i would take advantage of what i see the benchrest shooters do with an almost not touch technique...facilitating straight back recoil.
i think i'm going to reduce the amount of fill on my bag first to try out what you're describing. I'm not sure what compacted size i'll need but i'll start focusing on this. I will need a better quality bag just not sure yet what i need especially as i modify my ever evolving faulty "technique". i very much appreciate the offer.
Using the bag 100% is what a lot of guys do. It can work well until you have recoil. But to use a natural point of aim you have to be part of the system. When the rifle is on a bipod and bag 100% you aren’t part of the system. The rifle is in a rest and shooter is laying on top.that was very interesting....
what i've been trying to do and what i thought was correct when shooting prone for example was to level the rifle by setting the rear of the stock on the bag while chest/shoulder pocketing the recoil pad and slightly drawing the rifle into me so that i could comfortably see through the scope and such that the rifle pointed at my target. (I believe NPA stands for natural point of aim?). And of course drawing myself into the bipod with my chest just a bit to load it.
I gently squeeze the tightly filled bag to adjust for breathing induced vertical displacement.
i guess i thought by fixing the rear of the rifle or rather making the rear very stable i would take advantage of what i see the benchrest shooters do with an almost not touch technique...facilitating straight back recoil.
i think i'm going to reduce the amount of fill on my bag first to try out what you're describing. I'm not sure what compacted size i'll need but i'll start focusing on this. I will need a better quality bag just not sure yet what i need especially as i modify my ever evolving faulty "technique". i very much appreciate the offer.
Happy to help. A few years back I started analyzing rear bags and the rabbit hole got deep lol. But I’m passionate about it and feel like I have a good handle on it so I’m happy to share to help other guys. Making a living doing it is a dream come true so the thanks goes to the community@Precision Underground has been very helpful to this shooting community in helping shooters get better and taking the time explaining everything. I have asked many questions both in threads and in DM's and he has always taken the time to provide helpful answers and help me diagnose things that I might be doing wrong. WIth my own personal ELR bag he helped me figure out how I should fill it for my needs and my rifle and got it readjusted.
So just wanted to say big thanks for all the work you do supporting the community.
Happy to help. A few years back I started analyzing rear bags and the rabbit hole got deep lol. But I’m passionate about it and feel like I have a good handle on it so I’m happy to share to help other guys. Making a living doing it is a dream come true so the thanks goes to the community