Proven 1000yd 308 bullet

[VITA per Veritas]

Re: Proven 1000yd 308 bullet

Try 28ish minutes. That is my elevation w/ 155Scenars at Raton NM.

Good luck

 

[cmh2007]

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I know its not to 1k, but im having excellent results with the Hornady 155 A-Max out to 600. I load it to 44.6 gr of varget seated to 2.845 COAL

 

[M25BeastShooter]

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Reloader 15 over a 175/178 with 43.5-44.5 grains

 

[l115a3]

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I like 175gr for long range than 168gr.

 

[dar1246]

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I just shot a 1000 yard match using 155 lapuas. My come ups was 27.5 Moas. Shooting 2970 down the tube.

 

[l115a3]

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Cool

 

[skinney_7]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I just shot a 1000 yard match using 155 lapuas. My come ups was 27.5 Moas. Shooting 2970 down the tube. </div></div>
dar, whats the barrel length your using, pushin them pills that fast???

 

[Iggy]

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So 43grn of Varget seems to be the consensus?

I'm trying to replicate the M118LR load for my 5R and I have a lot of Varget, Win primers and brass along with 175 SMK's

 

[dar1246]

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Using a 30" 1/13 twist. I built this gun just for the 155s. I could have went with a slower twist but I have had great results with the 155s at long range. Why change.

 

[HenningNor]

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155 Lapua Scenar, VV N-150 (46.6 gr), 74.0mm OAL
880m/sec in a Sako TRG 22

 

[Roscoe_M4]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DesertHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if you are going with the SMK family, would suggest the 175 grains SMK. The 155 palma and 155 scenars will need to drive them hard to get the accuracy that you need/want. If you can drive your 175 SMK at least 2600 fps, you are more than adequate to reach home at 1K. </div></div>
+1

The 175 SMK is a natural for 1000 yds in the .308WIN and I've found that it does well with a number of different loads, while the 155 Scenars are more finicky in my sticks. I also believe it will be much easier to get around 2600 fps from the 175s than 2950 fps from the 155s in your 20" barrel.

 

[keithtb1]

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Went to the range today with my 18.5 inch gap and swr omega can to see if I could hit a thousand. Didn't think it could be done and have kept it around 600/700 till I saw LL's video with his gladius and thought I would give it a try. All my long range out to a mile is done with a 300 win mag and was satisfied with the gap at its intended mid range distance.
Loaded up some 175smk's with 44.5 grains of varget and dialed up 39.5 moa on my us optics scope and was able to hit our large plate at a 1000 at the top of the plate centered. Thanks to an unusually great windless day with hardly any mirage (unheard of at almost 12noon) dropped it down .5 and hit almost center of the plate. Switched over and struck our 12 inch plate 2 times and of course ran out of ammo! Never can load enough of that stuff but was happy to have pushed that rifle that far.
Thanks LL for the video. DKSD39 says it could be done, I just didn't think the barrel was long enough.

 

[axeeclipse]

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tagged!!!

This is a damn good info!!

 

[hiddenmongoose]

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the last time i shot 168 at 1000meters

7 rounds on the target, look closely at the bottom left round , i think they might be tumbling at this distance !!

 

[branct06]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lucks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">175 SMK's, 43.7g Varget, Lapua Brass, CCI BR primer
GAP .308, 22" Broughton barrel (2620 fps)

5 shot group at 1000 yards last week.

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That is an amazing group for 1000 yards!!! was this from a benchrest gun? What equipment were you shooting?

 

[lovain1932]

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+2 on the 175 smk but i too am intrigued by the 155 gr

 

[ArcticFun]

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I have had great success using the Berger 175gr VLD with both RL15 and IMR4064 past 1,000 yards. I don't shoot for groups past 500 yards because the only way to get past 500 yards and be off the runway (it's a small plane airport) is to shoot off of the bluff. I have made hits from 1200-1500 yards with my handloads that looked like they hit in the same spot when looking through my scope (10x leupold).

The puddle/water you see in the lower left was right around 1500 yards. I had my elevation knob maxed and had to use the bottom of the scope for my hold with a 5 mil hold to the left to hit the tip of that water but I did so consistently. And my elevation knob wasn't technically maxed out however it's a BDC and only allows for 6 MOA past my 1000 yard mark on the turret.

Also I am roughly 60 feet above sea level depending on the tide, it was 55-60 degrees out and blowing fairly stout but there was 3 crosswinds enroute to the target. My loads are way beyond magazine length and sit right at 2.210" at the ogive.

 

[XHODZAX]

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any new loads guys?

i am going to try 168gr a-max with 44gr varget behind them
out to 1000 yards

will post results

 

[Alpine 338]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hiddenmongoose</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the last time i shot 168 at 1000meters

7 rounds on the target, look closely at the bottom left round , i think they might be tumbling at this distance !!

</div></div>

Last weekend, I was trying to hit a steel plate at 930-yards with factory GMM 168's out of my 5R at 7200-ft ASL, and my only hit was a bullet that obviously impacted sideways.

 

[sobrbiker883]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yeah there are other fancy bullets at there, but for the price and availability you cant beat 175 SMKs in a 308. </div></div>

That's why they're what I load for my 308.

 

[coloshooter7]

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I agree on the 175 SMKs I have taken them out to 1500 yards

 

[chris223]

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+3 175gr smk worked great..

 

[frankythefly]

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My 1600 yd Load is Dynamic Research 176grn pushed at 2750FPS I am at 5000ft so I get a little more lift out of my rounds plus the .59 BC helps out to. I am just barely supersonic at that range (depends on temp). I was using TAC powder, CCI 34, Nosler brass.

 

[KNIGHT11B4]

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I would love to hear more about the 176 Predator Solids.

Just got some from SW Ammo.

 

[beretta989]

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I just shot 1200yards this evening with 168 A-max going 2630fps and had no proublem hitting my 22x28 inch target.(I just took a large T-shirt and traced it out on 1/4 mild steel and torched it out.) Now keep in mind this is an unbedded remington 700 26 inch sps varmint with a rifle basic trigger NO action work at all untouched crown as well. IM not saying it was a great group around 16-18 inches for the 6 shoots. But Everybody seems to say 168s can't get to 1000 But they work fine for me. My load is 45grains of varget 210m primers Lapua brass and weight sorted 168A-max loaded at 2.830 Col My chrono measured 2630fps 3 out of 5 rounds with an overall spread of 11fps.

 

[sniper2ndrep]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankythefly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 1600 yd Load is Dynamic Research 176grn pushed at 2750FPS I am at 5000ft so I get a little more lift out of my rounds plus the .59 BC helps out to. I am just barely supersonic at that range (depends on temp). I was using TAC powder, CCI 34, Nosler brass.

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What twist barrel are you using for this bullet?

 

[beretta989]

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The Sps varmint and pretty much all remington 308 700s are 1-12 except the new Sps Tactical AAC which is 1-10 twist.

 

[beretta989]

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How much powder are you running and how long and what twist is your barrel?

 

[sniper2ndrep]

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still waiting..

 

[JCH]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sniper2ndrep</div><div class="ubbcode-body">still waiting..</div></div>

Why don't you PM him if your in a big hurry.

 

[sniper2ndrep]

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Because I know the friggin answer already..thank you very much.

 

[xdeano]

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I pm'd him the day that his posting on those bullets hit the forum and he still hasn't gotten back to me. I'd like to know a bit more about the bullet as well. Anyone have any leads on this mfg.

thanks
Deano

 

[Short-bus]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I pm'd him the day that his posting on those bullets hit the forum and he still hasn't gotten back to me. I'd like to know a bit more about the bullet as well. Anyone have any leads on this mfg.

thanks
Deano </div></div>

If you're talking about those CNC bullets that Frankythefly posted a pic of I believe they are Predator Projectiles;

http://www.predatorprojectiles.com.au/

They have a US distributor now I believe. They aren't cheap, but they sure look cool!

Branden

 

[protias]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xdeano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I pm'd him the day that his posting on those bullets hit the forum and he still hasn't gotten back to me. I'd like to know a bit more about the bullet as well. Anyone have any leads on this mfg.

thanks
Deano </div></div>

If you're talking about those CNC bullets that Frankythefly posted a pic of I believe they are Predator Projectiles;

http://www.predatorprojectiles.com.au/

They have a US distributor now I believe. They aren't cheap, but they sure look cool!

Branden </div></div>

How much are we talking?

 

[azbic]

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Just getting into the long range shooting and this is some great info. Going to start with a 308 and I think I will start out with the Lapua Scenar 155, don't have the equipment to reload so factory loads will have to work for now.

 

[Short-bus]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protias</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How much are we talking? </div></div>

It's $36.75 for 25 bullets, yes, just 25 of 'em.

http://www.dynamicresearchllc.com/1.html

Branden

 

[protias]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protias</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How much are we talking? </div></div>

It's $36.75 for 25 bullets, yes, just 25 of 'em.

http://www.dynamicresearchllc.com/1.html

Branden </div></div>

Wow. Me being a complete newbie to long distance shooting, is it worth the expense?

 

[Short-bus]

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Not really unless you are just obsessed with having cooler shit than all your buddies.

Branden

 

[matchking]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: beretta989</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Sps varmint and pretty much all remington 308 700s are 1-12 except the new Sps Tactical AAC which is 1-10 twist. </div></div>
IMHO, The "best" .308 700s are 11.25" twist.

 

[Seekers]

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I was going to mention the 5R Mil Tec but didn't want too seem to picky about it.

Even if it's the best of the lot... hehehe


IMHO TOO of course...

Seekers

 

[Guest]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protias</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protias</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How much are we talking? </div></div>

It's $36.75 for 25 bullets, yes, just 25 of 'em.

http://www.dynamicresearchllc.com/1.html

Branden </div></div>

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Well, its a lot cheaper to shoot a 308 at 1600 than a 338 Lapua, even if you are paying for the expensive bullets. Also, we are offering a SH price of $41 per box for the 308 win/176 Predator loaded ammunition.

Wow. Me being a complete newbie to long distance shooting, is it worth the expense?

 

[Seth8541]

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+1 on the 175gr SMK and the Lapua Senars in a 155gr. Shot the 168 SMK in the Corps and thay shot like crap past 600 yds. 173 SMK were better but the 175's were the ticket.

 

[CK_32]

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Tag.

Looking to find a 1000 yard load for 175 SMK & varget load from a SPS-T as well.

 

[bamawrx]

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You should try Corbon 190's for a good off the shelve solution. This ammo printed about .6 MOA for me at 1,000 first time out with it.

 

[bamawrx]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MikeSWammo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protias</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: protias</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How much are we talking? </div></div>

It's $36.75 for 25 bullets, yes, just 25 of 'em.

http://www.dynamicresearchllc.com/1.html

Branden </div></div>

</div></div>

Well, its a lot cheaper to shoot a 308 at 1600 than a 338 Lapua, even if you are paying for the expensive bullets. Also, we are offering a SH price of $41 per box for the 308 win/176 Predator loaded ammunition.

Wow. Me being a complete newbie to long distance shooting, is it worth the expense?</div></div>


Mike,

Can you tell us about the performance of the 176 Predators? How long will the sale last? I am not familiar with that projectile.

Regards

 

[ReaperDriver]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CK_32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tag.

Looking to find a 1000 yard load for 175 SMK & varget load from a SPS-T as well. </div></div>
What kind of brass are you loading? I just shot again at 1000+ this past weekend trying various loads and brass combos.

My two "go to" loads right now with 175 SMKs and Varget in my SPS-T are:
WIN brass: 44.8 Varget, Fed 210 or 210M, COAL 2.820, 2590 fps
Lapua Brass: 44.6 Varget, Fed 210 or 210M, COAL 2.820, 2615 fps

Both were shooting extremely well out to 1200 yds.

I also retried a 168 AMAX load at 1000 (Lapua, 45.5 varget, 2.860 COAL) and I ended up with the same impression as before. They are just "OK". I was getting some hits on steel and then some just out of the ballpark flyers. However, I shot the 168 AMAXs at a 850 steel man and they were the best of any load that day at that distance. In probably, 10-15 mph wind - my spotter said they easily were under 1/2 MOA.

I was out of 178 AMAXs, or I would have shot them. I'm still convinced that the 175SMKs are the "bullet of choice" for 1000 yd out of the SPS-T.

 

[CPRifle]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReaperDriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CK_32</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tag.

Looking to find a 1000 yard load for 175 SMK & varget load from a SPS-T as well. </div></div>
What kind of brass are you loading? I just shot again at 1000+ this past weekend trying various loads and brass combos.

My two "go to" loads right now with 175 SMKs and Varget in my SPS-T are:
WIN brass: 44.8 Varget, Fed 210 or 210M, COAL 2.820, 2590 fps
Lapua Brass: 44.6 Varget, Fed 210 or 210M, COAL 2.820, 2615 fps

Both were shooting extremely well out to 1200 yds.

I also retried a 168 AMAX load at 1000 (Lapua, 45.5 varget, 2.860 COAL) and I ended up with the same impression as before. They are just "OK". I was getting some hits on steel and then some just out of the ballpark flyers. However, I shot the 168 AMAXs at a 850 steel man and they were the best of any load that day at that distance. In probably, 10-15 mph wind - my spotter said they easily were under 1/2 MOA.

I was out of 178 AMAXs, or I would have shot them. I'm still convinced that the 175SMKs are the "bullet of choice" for 1000 yd out of the SPS-T. </div></div>

This matches my setup in a 20" LTR pretty closely. 175 SMK, Win Brass, BR2, 45.0gr Varget. Average MV of 2650 fps. Was precise (MOA or better, often 1/2 MOA) to 1250ish yards.

 

[pazzo]

Re: Proven 1000yd 308 bullet

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rosie Palma</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pazzo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot 1L Nalgene water bottles at 1000 yds quite often with both 168 Amax, 178 Amax and 175 SMK's.

I personally like the 175 SMK's the best and have dropped the other two (168/178 Amax) from my handloads.
Having said that, we have shot the 1L bottles at 1120 yds and my 22" gong at 1300 yds all with 168 Amax.

For the record, the 168 Amax work amazingly well at 1000 yds, despite what some may say.

On a side note, I hate that silly red tip (looks like a kids toy).



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pazzo - what lenth barrel and twist rate are you shooting? Thanks... </div></div>

Sorry for the 4.5 month late reply...I must have missed your post!?

Anyways,
Those shots were with an LTR with a 20" 1:12 barrel.

I have now sold the LTR and moved to an AI AE. I'll see how it performs at a grand and get back to you.

 

[coldboremiracle]

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Chubbles and I just finished shooting at 920 and 1217 yds just a few minutes ago, my little sweetheart 10fp was keeping it easily under moa at both ranges with the 175SMK and 44.0gr of RL-15, I love that thing!!!!

 

[USGUNWORKS]

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I wanna try some of Mikes Predator ammo. Sounds interesting.