LRH, etc etc. Most hunters refuse to learn marksmanship from other shooting disciplines, especially if that discipline appeals to tactical shooters.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
LRH, etc etc. Most hunters refuse to learn marksmanship from other shooting disciplines, especially if that discipline appeals to tactical shooters.
LRH, etc etc. Most hunters refuse to learn marksmanship from other shooting disciplines, especially if that discipline appeals to tactical shooters.
And when they are advised on how to use it correctly, they respond with some bullshit excuse about where the technique came from.Dude, just like most people who carry a handgun have no fucking clue how to use one and don't want to learn or be challenged.
And when they are advised on how to use it correctly, they respond with some bullshit excuse about where the technique came from.
Maybe not even then, most are askholes.But I don't coach unless somebody approaches me.
I wonder if there are forums dedicated to swimming where swimmers endlessly compare Olympic swim suits to whatever the military issues the SEALS.
I'll send you a picture of me in a speedo if you want.I wonder if there are forums dedicated to swimming where swimmers endlessly compare Olympic swim suits to whatever the military issues the SEALS.
The main difference is that the best PRS competitors are better long range shooters than military snipers. Nothing to do with the rifle...
The main difference is that the best PRS competitors are better long range shooters than military snipers. Nothing to do with the rifle...
The main difference is that the best PRS competitors are better long range shooters than military snipers. Nothing to do with the rifle...
What percentage of a military snipers job is shooting? I'm not going to throw a number at it, as I'm not a sniper, and never was, but I bet the number is pretty low.
Competitive shooters spend much more time focusing on the actual aspect of shooting then snipers do. But the role of a sniper encompasses much much more then just shooting.
In a competition like Assassins' Way, in which many skills are tested, not just shooting, I would put my money on a good military sniper over a jersey wearing son of a bitch any day.
Who defines “best” and “better”
That leads me to the next question. Who and what defines “Pro”.Hi,
Just google "What the pros use", lololol
Sincerely,
Theis
That leads me to the next question. Who and what defines “Pro”.
for fun I used google to define Professional.Hi,
The answer to that would be ironically the same as mentioned above, lol...
All the wisdom you seek operates on continuous loop to that google search
Sincerely,
Theis
On square, one way ranges, without having to hump around 40+lbs of gear plus armor.....sure.
Start having to worry about getting shot, taking all the required gear in, along with a myriad of other factors, and the skill level gets much closer when the shots happen.
Otherwise, the top PRS guys should be taking the easy money they can make with Assassin’s Way.
It’s a completely apples to oranges comparison.
Hi,
Lets just pause and take a minute to admire the PRS marksmanship, lol
View attachment 7578964
Sincerely,
Theis
He has a giant sack........
so what your saying is a 8oz trigger and 30 pound bag might not work well when:
wearing gloves
tired
cold
hungry
thirsty
adrenalin through the roof
heat pounding from humping up a hill
oh...and getting shot at
well, you learn something new everyday...i just did
so what your saying is a 8oz trigger and 30 pound bag might not work well when:
wearing gloves
tired
cold
hungry
thirsty
adrenalin through the roof
heat pounding from humping up a hill
oh...and getting shot at
well, you learn something new everyday...i just did
Hi,
Maybe it is time for you to reduce your time at the Sig academy, lololol
You are turning Air Force....
Sincerely,
Theis
Isn’t that just a rear bag. Shooter wanted to make sure the rifle had the appropriate height bag for rifle alignment. I have heard getting as low as possible to the ground is not encouraged any longer. It’s about comfort and NPA.Hi,
Lets just pause and take a minute to admire the PRS marksmanship, lol
View attachment 7578964
Sincerely,
Theis
Hi,
Lets just pause and take a minute to admire the PRS marksmanship, lol
View attachment 7578964
Sincerely,
Theis
On square, one way ranges, without having to hump around 40+lbs of gear plus armor.....sure.
Start having to worry about getting shot, taking all the required gear in, along with a myriad of other factors, and the skill level gets much closer when the shots happen.
Otherwise, the top PRS guys should be taking the easy money they can make with Assassin’s Way.
It’s a completely apples to oranges comparison.
Theis, thanks. All use Air Force vets appreciate the shout outHi,
Maybe it is time for you to reduce your time at the Sig academy, lololol
You are turning Air Force....
Sincerely,
Theis
Hi,
Lets just pause and take a minute to admire the PRS marksmanship, lol
View attachment 7578964
Sincerely,
Theis
The man that inspired me to join the military was air force. HE was one of the highest decorated PJ's in Viet Nam. 3 bronze stars silver star dsc multiple purple hearts and 5 years in country. FOR the marines here he earned 2 bronze stars during tet. One at Khe Sahn and the other at Hue both rescuing pilots. He was put up for the CMH 3 different times. He ended up with the above ribbons for his actions. My affection for the air force lies in the fact they let me ride in there planes for most of my trips with them only got to land a few times still in them thoughHi,
Maybe it is time for you to reduce your time at the Sig academy, lololol
You are turning Air Force....
Sincerely,
Theis
Hi,
Maybe it is time for you to reduce your time at the Sig academy, lololol
You are turning Air Force....
Sincerely,
Theis
Theis, thanks. All use Air Force vets appreciate the shout out
Sincerely,
Mike
The man that inspired me to join the military was air force. HE was one of the highest decorated PJ's in Viet Nam. 3 bronze stars silver star dsc multiple purple hearts and 5 years in country. FOR the marines here he earned 2 bronze stars during tet. One at Khe Sahn and the other at Hue both rescuing pilots. He was put up for the CMH 3 different times. He ended up with the above ribbons for his actions. My affection for the air force lies in the fact they let me ride in there planes for most of my trips with them only got to land a few times still in them though
Better depends on your definition. The military sniper is the better scout, is more mindful of terrain, better at concealment, better at target identification, has better communication skills and so forth.The main difference is that the best PRS competitors are better long range shooters than military snipers. Nothing to do with the rifle...
In racing, sponsor stickers increase speed, traction and fuel efficiency, so why not?I think if Mil snipers were allowed to Ricky Bobby their ghillie suits with Hornady, Nightforce, and MPA patches they'd be much better marksman.
GIve a prs shooter M118lr or better watch how long they stay fundamentally sound shooting Mk 248 mod 0 or mod 1 on a stormy day. Alot of that free recoil shit shooting a 26# supressed 6br will go out the window rather quickly. Today's equipment is far better than what it once was for the military sniper. The ammo is still tar sealed and made when it was made.Are the top PRS shooters marginally better than mil snipers because of the long list of "what the pros use"? All the talk of compounding errors adding up to misses... This "pro" equipment exists to reduce the influence of shooter input and error. The 8oz trigger plays a significant role in this as does the weight of the rifle.
PRS shooters are also better at PRS matches because they practice spicifically for them. Take a winning Rally Car driver (mil sniper) and put him in F1 (PRS) after a day of practice. The Rally driver would probably do okay because they know how to drive, but not nearly as well as the drivers that live and breath F1 daily. Reverse the scenario and it works the same for the F1 driver in Rally.
I think if Mil snipers were allowed to Ricky Bobby their ghillie suits with Hornady, Nightforce, and MPA patches they'd be much better marksman.
I seriously what Carlos would think of both the Modern Snipers and their equipment/approach, the PRS Competitor/gear comparison; and how he'd be answering these questions.
His Rifle.
Wow! I'm jealous. Love that rifle.Just got mine together again tonight...
Sighted in the irons sitting on the end of my rifle vice before removing them for the scope install....ten shots today with irons and FGMM 168, 30-06 at 100 yards.....
As an aside, Carlos once voiced a desire for a Model 70 with the Redfield scope from the M40. When he retired he was gifted a Model 70 in a McMillan HTG with a Redfield scope.
Im considering a Leupold M40 repro for my Model 70.....the mil dot reticle would be fantastic.....but the rifle seems too pretty with the Unertl.
Hi Lux makes the dual focal plane greenie you seek. idk if it is the tvscreen or the round accu track but it is the same color greenJust got mine together again tonight...
Sighted in the irons sitting on the end of my rifle vice before removing them for the scope install....ten shots today with irons and FGMM 168, 30-06 at 100 yards.....
As an aside, Carlos once voiced a desire for a Model 70 with the Redfield scope from the M40. When he retired he was gifted a Model 70 in a McMillan HTG with a Redfield scope.
Im considering a Leupold M40 repro for my Model 70.....the mil dot reticle would be fantastic.....but the rifle seems too pretty with the Unertl.
Hi Lux makes the dual focal plane greenie you seek. idk if it is the tvscreen or the round accu track but it is the same color green
Just got mine together again tonight...
Sighted in the irons sitting on the end of my rifle vice before removing them for the scope install....ten shots today with irons and FGMM 168, 30-06 at 100 yard
I have an 8x and a 30x Ubertl up at my dad's house. It's amazing how well they shoot. THEre is also a 2x7 accu trac with the tv screen and the turret was done by my grandfather for the yardages. HE engraved the numbers you look at through the window and everytime I see it during der season I still smile as to what he and my other grandfather could do in both shooting and making the tings needed to make them shoot. I had students yesterday that couldn't shoot your group with my 308 wearing a b17 at that distance.I have one of the Leupold greenies, actually 3 of them in total. Great scopes to keep me from thinking too much.....really fun on steel. You have to dial down mag though to get the most reticle use out of them.
The HiLux actually has a closer look to the original Redfield than the Leupold but I thinking they purge the bodies with Wu Flu.
I have a NIB Weaver T10 that would be the ideal scope on this, especially if I had it mil reticled.
I am going to play Unertl for a bit though
I had students yesterday that couldn't shoot your group with my 308 wearing a b17 at that distance.
The rifle looks fantastic btw.