Advanced Marksmanship Ranging with MSR Reticle

[ahhshoot]

As always, my caveat, if this has been asked before, please excuse the repetitiveness, if someone would rather just post a link to the old discussion I would be more than happy to click it. But, I have googled and found some unclear data on this. When someone explains something and it doesn't make sense they either don't know what they are talking about, aren't explaining it well, accepted a fallacy within their own understanding, or are going above my own understanding.

So, is there someone on here, who can explain the benefits, purpose, and methods by which to use the famous MSR reticle I I will be using in my new Steiner 5-25 Military.

Caveat #2 - I understand the principle of milling, taking objects of average known size and relating them to relative distances within the reticle. Going from that understanding, can someone fill me in on where to go from there, in order to effectively utilize the benefits of the MSR reticle over traditional Mil dot reticle?

Much appreciation in advance.

 

[Lowlight]

Use the ranging "L" it's .1 mils... doesn't get much better than that.

Measure the target and apply it to the formula to range.

 

[ahhshoot]

Use the ranging "L" it's .1 mils... doesn't get much better than that.

Measure the target and apply it to the formula to range.

So the 'L' in the lower left quadrant is pretty straightforward, kind of a subset of any mil reticle with .1 subtensions, got it.

With the ranging portion in the lower right quadrant, and I'm just assuming here, would you take the size of the target by using the flat bottom hash mark to the small dash marks at different heights, and I'm assuming the largest size is 400 yards all the way out to 1300, so basically if the target fills the space between, for example, the bottom line to the highest hash mark, then that target would be 400 yards away, assuming that the reticle is calibrated for a torso-sized target? If so, then that's really practical and I like it. I think that's what is going on, if someone can confirm this for me that would be great.

EDIT: I'm reading on another site now that the width of the hashmarks should be consistent with the width of an average torso at that given range, which makes it even easier and more practical. Is there any other benefits to this reticle? I'm starting to really like it.

 

[Lowlight]

Here is for the brackets

That is a European ranging thing and not used much around here, but it works.

 

[ahhshoot]

Guys, I also dug a little deeper and found this. Figured I would post it for others:

http://www.finnaccuracy.com/kuvat/MSR/MSR_Datasheet.pdf

 

[geoff3]

Here is for the brackets

That is a European ranging thing and not used much around here, but it works.

Thank you for showing this in your post ,I was on the fence about the scope recticle and the MSR Recticle is going to be the one for my scope , thanks again ,geoff3

 

[Jaeger308]

http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...copes/184755-official-msr-reticle-thread.html

 

[Darkside-Six]

some good info and demonstration of the ranging in this video.

[video=youtube;d4YD_-ZqI4o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4YD_-ZqI4o[/video]

 

[Jaeger308]

I think FINN Acuraccy designed the MSR reticle with alot of thought, it works very well! This was not just some marketing design but a true end user heres what we want design. On the brackets, just remember they are based on meters if us Americans want to use them get your correct numbers or go metric. The MIL scale works as normal calculations would.

 

[kraigWY]

EDIT: I'm reading on another site now that the width of the hashmarks should be consistent with the width of an average torso at that given range, which makes it even easier and more practical. Is there any other benefits to this reticle? I'm starting to really like it.

That kind of works with just about any scope, or iron sights where the width of the cross hairs or width of the front sight is known.

An example:

I ran sniper schools for the NG using M1C/Ds. We didn't have LRFs or Mil Dot Scopes, we had the 2.2 X M84 and of course the front sight of the M1 can still be used while the scope is mounted. We were using the e-silhouette target which is 19 inches wide. (Average width of a man, shoulder to shoulder).

Divide the target size by the width of the front sight and it will tell you a what point the sight is the same width as the target.

Measuring the sight we found out that the average width of the M1 front sight is .076.
Target width is 19 inches.

19 divided by .076 = 250 yards. Meaning the front sight is the same size as the target at 250 yards. Knowing that with practice you can learn to estimate distance, example if the sight is 1/2 the width of the target, its 125 yards, if the sight is twice the size of the target its 500 yards.

With a bit of practice you can get pretty accurate.