Razor Gen3?
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Read the review done by Glassohlic just a few threads up. This is the most comprehensive info you will probably find. This is something you’re going to have to decide for yourself. Everyone’s needs ,likes/dislikes , and eyes are different.
It’s actually a pretty amazing scope for the money. The only true downfall to it is that it is so damn ugly!!!!!
That’s my only gripe with the razor scopes. When zeroing the scope, the markings on the inside dial is just a suggestion. I can zero any other optic in just a few shots. Not so with razors. Still my favorite scopes.Ithe L-tec zero system.
I have a Gen 3 coming for a Desert Tech that I will be switching barrels on. I was told the inner dial is accurate on these? I’m hoping to be able to mark the dials to correspond with the different barrels. I would never use a gen 2 razor on a switch barrel.
Has it been your experience that the gen 3 inner dial when zeroing is accurate?
I have two now and had up to 4 and none of them were on. It was like sighting in a 3x9 Luepold scope. I’ve seen other posts with the same complaints and other guys like yourself that say what they dial, it moves.
Luck of the draw I suppose. I should have my Gen 3 in soon. If you see it up for sale in the exchange soon after, you know why.
And if you can read the wind to the nearest 1/8 MPH, it may even matter a little. I’m just picking but a small fraction of a poof of wind means far more in error than the theoretical 0.05 mil off center zero.
Great. i know of the sale and tha is why. But also see or understand that the turret locking is different in that you have to hold the turret up [will not stay on its own] . i see that as a disadvatage in comps since now you have to do 2 things at once ie hold turret up AND turn vs the old gen2 just leave unlocked and turn when needed. I like the KISS method here. Stan
I don't see what it really matters if the inner dial is a little off.
It doesn't click to the nearest 1/10 MIL or 1/4 MOA it has an infinite zero system.
Once you get it zeroed so long as the outer dial is accurate IMO.
IMO the Gen 2s are the best scopes you can get in that price range.
I have owned Zeiss, S&B, Steiner, Leupold, NF sold or traded them all only scope I haven't felt the desire to get rid of is my Gen2 Raz.
It doesn’t under most circumstances. For a switch barrel rifle it matters a lot. On any other scope it’s as easy as noting the offset, dialing it, and slipping the turret. That’s repeatable. On a razor, there is no way of doing that with any repeatability. The only option is to either rezero every time which isn’t as quick or easy as other scopes to do in the first place and not ideal anyhow or not rezero at all and dial out the difference if possible and hold over. The gen 2 razor is still my favorite scope to date regardless.
Yeah, I hear what you are saying I have a Gen 2 on an AI AX I switch between 6MM, 6.5CM, and 308.
The one that has the lowest zero I made the (master/zero) barrel the other two aren't more than .5 mil difference on elevation or windage so I just plug the difference into my BA of choice and don't really think about it.
The turrets are fixed they no longer fall into the locked position at will. The two I recently got are great and others have reported the same. If you don’t want the turrets to lock at all you can send it into vortex and they’ll delete the lock.
Feel free to call us at 916-670-1103 and we'd be happy to assist you. We have a few left in stock
I've found the inner-dial increments to be accurate enough. My "disagreement" with Vortex's zeroing instruction set (for both gen-2 and gen-3) is they essentially direct the shooter to loosen set screw(s) adjust, shoot, adjust... then tighten screw(s) when done. That has never worked for the three gen-2 and two gen-3 Razors I own(ed). My experience is, if I leave the screw(s) loose, the erector seems to flop around under recoil and I can't get a consistent POI. So, I loosen, adjust, tighten slightly, shoot, repeat as needed.
I have one gen-2 left - other two were sold to upgrade to gen-3s. I actually had an offer on the last gen-2 and a third gen-3 in the cart and almost paid for when I decided not to upgrade the last gen-2 - it's on a non-match rifle, and the $$ not spent of upgrading will go to primers/powder/bullets.
OP, the gen-3 Razor is a great optic for the money, as is the gen-2. I have a ZCO 527 on my main match rifle. Is the ZCO "better," a term that carries a Great Deal of personal preference weight? In some ways yes. Is it $1000 worth of better? Not to me. A couple weekends ago, I shot a little mini-Palma/F-class rimfire match. Weather was cool (low 50s), damp, a bit misty with the occasional downpour. I was able to see the bullet holes in the black 100-yard targets (photo). No one else could, including my buddy who had a Nightforce ATACR on his RimX.
Fwiw.
I agree. It needs to be tightened after each adjustment.
I used an AMG for 4 seasons and around 13k rounds on a switch barrel gun and the markings were dead nuts on. I never had a problem.
I have a gen 3 sitting here that I have not mounted yet. I'm assuming all is well with it too.
ETA: I also tighten after each adjustment.
