Reloading Christmas List

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Looks like the Brother-in-Law and I are getting the Hornady Lock N Load reloading kit for Christmas. We are new to this and would like some info on hardware/tools we'll need to get going outside of what comes with the kit and the case tumbler we are getting as well. I believe the kit comes with Press, scales, hand primer tool, case lube, shell holder, and Hornady Reloading Manual. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
 
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obviously - DIES FOR YOUR CALIBER(S). cases, powder, primers, heads

1. calipers for OAL, trim length, and other measurements

2. case trimmer

3. case lube pad for applying the case lube (don't use too much lube, and keep it off the shoulder / neck. you don't want to create the dreaded hydro dents).

4. powder trickler to get just the right amount in the scale without having to dump it and re-weigh

5. small stuff like a primer pocket cleaning brush, case chamfer tool, extra decapping pins, powder funnel, small scoops or a cup to put the powder in.

6. a stuck shell remover - just in case one does get stuck.

7. a small dedicated tool kit for making adjustments to all your reloading stuff.

8. media for your tumbler, opinions vary on the type, but you'll need some.

9. a bench to mount all that stuff on, some drawers / shelves / etc. to store your stuff in, and a comfortable adjustable chair. overhead lighting is a nice touch (nothing fancy, flouresant shop light good enough)

10. bullet puller to help "disarm" your F'ups

as with anything, there are a ton of more instruments for more precision and convienance, but for starting out that should be good. also don't rely on just one reload data book, different books have different loads for the same grains of the heads, always start out on the lower to mid range of the charge.

a cronograph is a great addition, and you should budget some $ for that in the future. it'll show just how consistant your loads are as far as stand alone ammo and in comparison to what you are getting from the load manuals and factory ammo, to some extent show if your in the "safe zone", and help to create data to use in ballistic calculators and such. also shows differences in FPS when it comes to seating depth and different brass.

best tool to get (if you can) is an experienced handloader to show you the initial setup and procedures to make accurate / safe ammo.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">obviously - DIES FOR YOUR CALIBER(S). cases, powder, primers, heads

1. calipers for OAL, trim length, and other measurements</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2. case trimmer</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3. case lube pad for applying the case lube (don't use too much lube, and keep it off the shoulder / neck. you don't want to create the dreaded hydro dents).</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">NOPE, Get the Imperial Sizing Wax, instead. Less mess, less hassle, lasts longer, is faster. They say it makes us better looking, too.
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</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">4. powder trickler to get just the right amount in the scale without having to dump it and re-weigh</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5. small stuff like a primer pocket cleaning brush, case chamfer tool, extra decapping pins, powder funnel, small scoops or a cup to put the powder in.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP, get the scale powder cup with the built in funnel... do it right the first time.</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">6. a stuck shell remover - just in case one does get stuck.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">7. a small dedicated tool kit for making adjustments to all your reloading stuff.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">8. media for your tumbler, opinions vary on the type, but you'll need some.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP, SORTA; Look into the Stainless Steel method. Valuable info, right there. Two different tangents, so you decide which way you want to travel.</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">9. a bench to mount all that stuff on, some drawers / shelves / etc. to store your stuff in, and a comfortable adjustable chair. overhead lighting is a nice touch (nothing fancy, flouresant shop light good enough)</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP, except they say that fluorescent lighting screws with electronic scales. YMMV.</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10. bullet puller to help "disarm" your F'ups</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">as with anything, there are a ton of more instruments for more precision and convenience, but for starting out that should be good. also don't rely on just one reload data book, different books have different loads for the same grains of the heads, always start out on the lower to mid range of the charge.

a cronograph is a great addition, and you should budget some $ for that in the future. it'll show just how consistant your loads are as far as stand alone ammo and in comparison to what you are getting from the load manuals and factory ammo, to some extent show if your in the "safe zone", and help to create data to use in ballistic calculators and such. also shows differences in FPS when it comes to seating depth and different brass.

best tool to get (if you can) is an experienced handloader to show you the initial setup and procedures to make accurate / safe ammo.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP YUP YUP, start off right, sure, and safe.</span>[/quote]
 
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I agree with above with the following exceptions.

Get an ultrasonic cleaner instead of a tumbler. Ultrasonic cleaner cleans the inside and primer pockets as well, tumbler only cleans the outside plus "works" the cases and makes them slighter harder. If you have an ultrasonic cleaner you don't need a tumbler unless for vanity reasons you want you cases really shinny.

I use case lube spray for convenience and because it is less messy, but comes down to preference.
 
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Good advice so far. I like spray lube for a progressive press, and the wax for single stage.

The only thing I can think to add is comparators for shoulder dimensions and COAL's. They're cheap and allow you to measure the dimensions that matter instead of the ones you can get to with just a caliper.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sean the Nailer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">obviously - DIES FOR YOUR CALIBER(S). cases, powder, primers, heads

1. calipers for OAL, trim length, and other measurements</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2. case trimmer</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3. case lube pad for applying the case lube (don't use too much lube, and keep it off the shoulder / neck. you don't want to create the dreaded hydro dents).</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">NOPE, Get the Imperial Sizing Wax, instead. Less mess, less hassle, lasts longer, is faster. They say it makes us better looking, too.
wink.gif
</span>

<span style="color: #FF0000">[/color]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">4. powder trickler to get just the right amount in the scale without having to dump it and re-weigh</div></div>
[color:#33CC00]YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5. small stuff like a primer pocket cleaning brush, case chamfer tool, extra decapping pins, powder funnel, small scoops or a cup to put the powder in.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP, get the scale powder cup with the built in funnel... do it right the first time.</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">6. a stuck shell remover - just in case one does get stuck.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">7. a small dedicated tool kit for making adjustments to all your reloading stuff.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">8. media for your tumbler, opinions vary on the type, but you'll need some.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP, SORTA; Look into the Stainless Steel method. Valuable info, right there. Two different tangents, so you decide which way you want to travel.</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">9. a bench to mount all that stuff on, some drawers / shelves / etc. to store your stuff in, and a comfortable adjustable chair. overhead lighting is a nice touch (nothing fancy, flouresant shop light good enough)</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP, except they say that fluorescent lighting screws with electronic scales. YMMV.</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">10. bullet puller to help "disarm" your F'ups</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">as with anything, there are a ton of more instruments for more precision and convenience, but for starting out that should be good. also don't rely on just one reload data book, different books have different loads for the same grains of the heads, always start out on the lower to mid range of the charge.

a cronograph is a great addition, and you should budget some $ for that in the future. it'll show just how consistant your loads are as far as stand alone ammo and in comparison to what you are getting from the load manuals and factory ammo, to some extent show if your in the "safe zone", and help to create data to use in ballistic calculators and such. also shows differences in FPS when it comes to seating depth and different brass.

best tool to get (if you can) is an experienced handloader to show you the initial setup and procedures to make accurate / safe ammo.</div></div>
<span style="color: #33CC00">YUP YUP YUP, start off right, sure, and safe.</span></div></div> [/quote]

Just a heads up, I just got the same Hornady Set and I am a new reloader as well. I agree with the above comments but just FYI, the kit comes with a powder funnel, One Shot Case Lube, and a powder trickler. So don't double order that stuff.

Also the scale that comes with it sucks so I would recommend buying a new scale. Before I was made aware of the warm up period, the scale would shift on me quite a bit half way into my loading. After I found out that you have to warm up the scale (by leaving it on) mine only measures +/- .2 grains. I would like to have a little more precision than that. But good luck and have fun.
 
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I would strongly suggest you go with wax instead of spray lube, especially, if your going with Hornady dies (which tend to size a bit smaller). I struggled with 3 different spray lubes until I discovered wax- now my life is so much easier.
 
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I put a posted question in the 5.56 mm posts, but I wonder if the automatic electronic powder scales are worth the trouble... Midway has a TON of good reviews, but at the bottom are some that are not too happy...i was wanting to speed up the process...which one-if any-is the best? Thanks in advance-this site has been really helpful!
 
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I know that you asked about tools/equipment and that you are getting a Hornady manual but another "tool" that pretty much everybody agrees on is the ABC's of Reloading. Make sure that you know exactly what you are doing or Kaboom! You're ganna want to stay away from Kaboom!

All kidding aside, read up, ask a million questions and be safe.
 
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I, myself, am an advocate of the Lyman Reloading Manual. There is an extensive dissertation in the front half, giving all explanation and direction for each and every step of the reloading process.

And VERY accurate reloading details on the second half. They are actual/tested loads, as opposed to "theoretical" that some others may use.

((so starts the battle))
 
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I know that I asked about the automated powder dispensers, but how about the manual ones? Back when I reloaded I had a hornady--but it threw charges all over the place-so I just threw them low and trickle the rest in...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Headgear</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I know that you asked about tools/equipment and that you are getting a Hornady manual but another "tool" that pretty much everybody agrees on is the ABC's of Reloading. Make sure that you know exactly what you are doing or Kaboom! You're ganna want to stay away from Kaboom!

All kidding aside, read up, ask a million questions and be safe. </div></div>

I agree with this guy. I bought the ABC's of reloading and it was very helpful. Also I would recommend going on You Tube and watching some reloading videos on there. I did not have an experienced reloader to show me the ropes so I had to rely on books and video's. But once you kind of muscle your way though it, its a lot of fun.