Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

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#1
Hey guys. I was wondering what group sizes you are seeing from a rem 700 in a mcmillan. I dont wanna hear, "my buddy shot a 2 shot .5 moa group at 500 the other day" I would prefer averages.

I have a 700 sps-v in a mcmillan a4 but it hasnt been bedded and I am wondering how much difference it will make.

Thanks
 
#2
Re: Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

Depends what kinda stock you are coming from as to how much of a difference.

I like the mcm stock for ergonomics and feel over most Tupperware styles.

The only sps I have experience with came in the squishy hogue style. It ended up in an hsp stock and the groups did improve notably.
 
#3
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Hey, I had this barreled action in a 700p HS stock. It grouped quite well, I was kinda talked into the mcmillan by some people on here. I do like the feel and quality of the mcmillan better than the HS but I think my groups might actually be worse. I was thinking about getting the mcmillan skim bedded.
 
#5
Re: Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

No, and I really dont have a clue. I used an allen wrench. I got the front one very tight, the back one not as much. But I did tighten the front action screw first.
 
#6
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It sounds like the stock is under stress ...back off on the two screws .
It is easy to see if you have pillars..drop the bottom metal and look in the action screw holes in the stock if you see aluminum tubes in there then the pillars are installed.
 
#7
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MAGUA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It sounds like the stock is under stress ...back off on the two screws .
It is easy to see if you have pillars..drop the bottom metal and look in the action screw holes in the stock if you see aluminum tubes in there then the pillars are installed. </div></div>

Yeah, I gotcha. I know it doesn't have them. I was saying I dont have a clue what lbs/in its torqued to.
 
#8
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Without pillars and full bedding ...I would go easy on the stock go up in small increments 30"32"34" etc and see how it shoots. The stock should be pillar/full bedded/torqued correctly.
 
#9
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I've got a 7mm RM 700 in a <span style="text-decoration: underline">pillared</span> McMillan Sporter stock. I tinkered with a few loads before the weather turned to crap, and it's showing a lot of promise. I didn't put the calipers on the best group, but it looks closer to 1/2" than an inch.
I'm sitting here right now trying to get up the nerve to go out in the shop and bed it. I got the Devcon in last week, and the last of the little supplies yesterday.

My gun has a Douglas barrel too, so there's probably not enough similarity to yours for any kind of a comparison.
 
#10
Re: Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MAGUA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Without pillars and full bedding ...I would go easy on the stock go up in small increments 30"32"34" etc and see how it shoots. The stock should be pillar/full bedded/torqued correctly. </div></div>Mcmillan says that it isnt "necessary" to bed their stocks, I will tweak the action screws alittle.

Thanks guys
 
#11
Re: Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

Invest in a good torque wrench. Significantly different torques between the front and rear screws can certainly put stress into the system. It may not be "necessary" to pillar bed the stock but that all depends on your application and on what you thinnk is "necessary" in terms of accuracy. Hunting accuracy and match accuracy may be two different things. I had a Rem 700 300 Win Mag in the Mc Millan without the pillar bedding and was not overly impressed with the accuracy until it was properly pillar bedded.
 
#12
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well if your groups are less than satisfactory then it shoud be "obvious" you need to have pillars installed along with bedding...and most times it is necessary to bed their stocks regardless what they say, as for group sizes mine was an sps-v in a hs precison stock and it shot very well 1/2" groups, and now in the mcmillian it averages better than that.
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eric0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mine was an sps-v in a hs precison stock and it shot very well 1/2" groups, and now in the mcmillian it averages better than that. </div></div>

The hs I had on it averaged about the same alittle over 1/2 and inch.
 
#14
Re: Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cpt. obvious</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eric0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mine was an sps-v in a hs precison stock and it shot very well 1/2" groups, and now in the mcmillian it averages better than that. </div></div>

The hs I had on it averaged about the same alittle over 1/2 and inch. </div></div>

Your probably not going to gain as much accuracy as you are comfortability with switching from the HS to the McMillan. Any stock can be bedded correctly and made into a very solid stock. The difference with McM and the other expensive stocks are the options, weight, design, durability, etc..., that they offer, not so much JUST improved accuracy.
 
#15
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Sounds like you've got the action in there under a lot of stress. Back off the action screws and then run them both in evenly. If you don't have a torque wrench, insert the long end of the allen wrench into the bolt head and use the short end to apply the force. This will keep you from over torquing the action.
 
#18
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I understand everyone seems to dog the factory stocks on the sps varmint. I have had my recoil lug glass bedded, shaved the foreend to float the 26 in barrel. trigger tuned to 3 pounds. my best group with handloads 0.450. dont understand all the hype of dropping big bucks on something you dont need. every rifle has its own load it loves. find that and u cant go wrong. my load- lapua brass fl resized trimmed 2.005 fed215 168smk with 41.8 gr on imr 4064 pushing to 2636 fps.
sub-moa groups with almost factory rifle. why change anything?
 
#20
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i have an sps varmint in a mcmillan a5 stock and its unbedded and completely stock otherwise. I honestly get .5-.6 MOA groups out to at least 300 yards. I havent been able to test it out any farther than that yet. In fact i just shot it today and that average held up perfectly. In my opinion, bedding is something that you do if the rifle isnt shooting well, but isnt necessary up to that point.
 
#22
Re: Rem 700 Mcmillan stock group size

You can "get a clue" on torque. A foot long wrench with a pound of weight of it is one foot pound. That is 12 inch pounds. Put 5 pounds on it and it is 5 foot pounds (60 inch pounds). Go lift a pound of butter. That is a pound.
 
#23
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Well, unfortunately it's not that easy. A poor shooter with a McMillan is still gonna punch 2.5" groups. Assuming a competent shooter, if you're talking off the shelf, un-bedded, bolted up mcmillan on a stock 700, it can consistently hold 1" (not just one lucky close group). With a bedding job and good aftermarket trigger, those groups could tighten considerably.
 
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