Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

[lonely_wolf]

I was looking around the Remington website. They have a FAQ section. I was surprised to see that they state the factory settings for their tactical rifles is 45in/lbs. I have found when this question is asked on the forums 65in/lbs is often recommended. Seems to be a big discrepancy.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Remington Customer Help</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
What are the torque dimensions when tightening the guard screws on a Model 700?

Synthetic & wood stocks should be hand tight, which is 30 to no more than 35 inch pounds. The Sendero & Police stocks are tightened to 45 inch pounds from the factory.
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[Slafav]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

Depends on the stock. I have an H-S Precision that says to tighten to 65 inch pound in the installation instructions.

 

[lonely_wolf]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

Fair enough and it makes an interesting point since I contacted HS about their stocks (concerning a different matter) and they said that all of their tactical/aluminum block stocks are made to the same standard with the same materials. That means they should all be capable of the same torque settings.

Does anyone have any idea why Remington goes with 45inch/lbs?
What do the armorers torque the Army's M24 with? It has an HS P stock, albeit with a few extra features.

 

[GUNNER75]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

Factory Screws on Remington rifles won't always survive after repeated 65in lb torque. It is also hard on factory aluminum floorplate assemblies. YMMV

 

[308Shooter1911]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

Is it the same with the SPS Tactical???

 

[dbsinh2o]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

The H-S Precision torque specs are 65 in/lb for their stocks. You have zero worries about the fasteners at 65 in/lb. I've had my 5R apart maybe a dozen times, and there's no apparent wear on the bottom metal at 65 in/lb.

Kind of nice as I can use the same T-handle torque tool to do my ring cross bolts and the stock.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

Per the Remington Armorers Course, higher torque values may damage the bottom metal.

That being said, my 700 is at 65 in/lbs. and it retains the original aluminum metal. Problems can be had if the inlet in your particular stock does not support the bottom metal well.

 

[lonely_wolf]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

@ dbsinh20 – I'm not worried. I have safely torqued my 700's to 65in/lbs many times. I am just curious why Remington is choosing to use 45in/lbs.

@ LoneWolfUSMC - Thanks for your insight. So it's just a matter of safety first!

 

[fdkay]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

I don't torque anything with an aluminum floorplate to more than 50 in-lbs.

 

[cuffm4615]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

my 700p is torqued at 65"lbs. I've never had a problem with it and it shoots outstanding !

 

[Tangodown911]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

In the LEO countersniper school I attended, they preached nothing but 65inch pounds. I'm sure at least one of the instructors was a Remington armor. They seemed pretty set on 65inch pounds. All my stuff has been done this way and so far so good.

 

[Shady_Jay]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

45 inch lbs because the bottom metal is pot metal.

 

[BlackOps Tech]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

It's actually not that uncommon for the torque to be 45 in lbs regardless of what floor metal is used. Many of the old school builders used 45 in lbs for many years. At some point, 65 in lbs was adopted as industry standard, but there's nothing magical about torquing action bolts to 65 in lbs. These days, most everyone torques to 65 in lbs mainly because it's the "in" thing to do.

The most important aspect is to ensure that the barreled action is pulled into the stock evenly. If the marriage of bedding and barreled action is correct, and all else is as it should be, 45 in lbs is more than enough. What should be avoided is the haphazard tightening of action bolts.

 

[lonely_wolf]

Re: Rem 700P factory Torque Specs only 45in/lbs?

Remington's reply:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Remington Customer Help</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The stock will take up to 65 inch pounds. We try to err on the side of caution as some folks will not use a torque wrench and over tighten the screws to the point where it damages the stock. 45 inch pounds is "snug" and for someone without a torque wrench this is a good way to explain the amount of inch pounds without risking them over tightening the screw and damaging the stock.
Thank your for contacting Remington. </div></div>