Gunsmithing Removing Savage BAS?

[triceratops3]

I'm trying to remove the bolt assembly screw on my savage bolt so I can swap out the bolt handle but its stuck on there pretty tight.

I've tried some brute strength, some heat, and some kroil and nothing. I don't want to bend or break anything. Any one have any ideas on what I should do next? I've heard freezing it might work by contracting the metal and allowing for a little wiggle room.

Been thinking I might just need to call savage, but not sure if they'll do anything or not?

 

[jonaddis84]

How are you holding the bolt?

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[triceratops3]

How are you holding the bolt?

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I've tried holding it with my hands, putting it in a vice, and laying it on a table/ floor.

 

[Supergyro]

I threw mine in a soft jaw vise and used an extended allen key. No heat or nothing.

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[dang472]

I just zipped mine off with a 3/8" impact and an hex impact socket. I've done 2 this way. Make sure you have a good fitting hex.

 

[jeder212]

Copied from savage shooters.com

First off, as its been said here, the easiest way to remove a stubborn BAS is to insert the 1/4" allen wrench as shown below. Then on a carpeted surface or rug, apply pressure (as indicated by the orange arrow) downward with your foot. I recommend wearing shoes when you step down. Do not be surprised if you hear a "crack" sound when the BAS breaks loose, and in rare cases you my have to bounce or stomp on it to get it to break free.
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/...al Pics/SavageBASScrewRemoval_zps6020078a.jpg (http://s747.photobucket.com/user/bo...cs/SavageBASScrewRemoval_zps6020078a.jpg.html)



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[triceratops3]

Copied from savage shooters.com

First off, as its been said here, the easiest way to remove a stubborn BAS is to insert the 1/4" allen wrench as shown below. Then on a carpeted surface or rug, apply pressure (as indicated by the orange arrow) downward with your foot. I recommend wearing shoes when you step down. Do not be surprised if you hear a "crack" sound when the BAS breaks loose, and in rare cases you my have to bounce or stomp on it to get it to break free.
http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/...al Pics/SavageBASScrewRemoval_zps6020078a.jpg (Bolt 1 Photo by bootsmcguire | Photobucket)



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Tried this without luck.

 

[BoilerUP]

Tried this without luck.

Try this again - it has always worked for the most stubborn assembly screws I've come across, though one time I had to actually put all my weight on the thing to break it loose.

 

[ridgeway]

Get yourself a quality set of Allen drivers for 3/8" drive and use a breaking bar. Clamp that bolt in vee blocks and go to town...

 

[triceratops3]

Try this again - it has always worked for the most stubborn assembly screws I've come across, though one time I had to actually put all my weight on the thing to break it loose.

Get yourself a quality set of Allen drivers for 3/8" drive and use a breaking bar. Clamp that bolt in vee blocks and go to town...

Might have to try these. Boiler, how much do you weigh? I might need a bigger person to help me. I'm only at 125 and I've pretty much jumped up and down on it with no luck.

 

[jeder212]

Tried this without luck.

Wow... That thing is on there!

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[triceratops3]

Wow... That thing is on there!

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It really is. Its been in heat multiple times, had some kroil applied to it and had a guy at about 275lbs cranking on it with an allen wrench and a rubber mallet.

question for all, would it be okay to just soak the bolt handle end of the bolt in kroil or something similar to try to get it apart?

 

[ridgeway]

Yep, soak it in kroil, no harm. I'm quite confident a 3/8" drive and a breaking bar with do the trick. If you do sack it, use a heavy bass hammer or carefully with a heavy steel ball peen. Rubber mallet just absorbs the breaking shock.

 

[Sixfivesavage]

Dumb suggestion, but sometimes it doesn't hurt to make sure....you are going the right way, correct?

 

[triceratops3]

Yep, soak it in kroil, no harm. I'm quite confident a 3/8" drive and a breaking bar with do the trick. If you do sack it, use a heavy bass hammer or carefully with a heavy steel ball peen. Rubber mallet just absorbs the breaking shock.

I'll try to soak it then. I'll then try the breaking bar. How would you recommend I hold it in a vise if I can't find someone with vee blocks?

 

[triceratops3]

Dumb suggestion, but sometimes it doesn't hurt to make sure....you are going the right way, correct?

Not as dumb of a suggestion as you may think but I've checked and double checked I'm going the right way. I've even lined it up with the exact same bolt whos BAS I've gotten lose with no problem.

 

[ridgeway]

Maybe clamp it between some thick leather, hard rubber or aluminum. Don't want the hardened vise jaws hack the heck out of your bolt body.

 

[Sixfivesavage]

Take a solid wood block, a hard wood and drill a hole slightly smaller than the bolt through it. Cut it in half and you have your vise blocks. If it spins a tad, line the blocks with an old inner tube.

 

[triceratops3]

Sounds good. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll give it a try once I get the chance.

 

[bptactical]

Get an old school impact driver, the kind you hit with a hammer. You need that shock value to break it loose.

 

[triceratops3]

Get an old school impact driver, the kind you hit with a hammer. You need that shock value to break it loose.

I'm not sure if I know what this is? care to post a link to one?

 

[BoilerUP]

Might have to try these. Boiler, how much do you weigh?

180lb.

Even at "only" 125lb, that should be plenty of torque to break lose the screw.

 

[bptactical]

I'm not sure if I know what this is? care to post a link to one?

Not a problem: http://m.sears.com/index-g.html#/productdetails/00947641000P?partnumber=00947641000P


I got mine a long time ago but Harbor Fright has them for 15 bucks or so. Get a good quality Allen head for it and go to town.
They work great in the right application.