For the record, I’m interested in both. Would like to see you come out with the Arca version, but would buy the rail version if you ended up not machining the new design. Anything is better than what I have now.
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I weighed my BDS spigot at ~9.2oz (making the delta ~7oz from your pic version, more if his scale's better!) and I put my Atlas PSR as far forward as possible when shooting way out. Do you think you could push the pic version a little farther forward?It extends 4.5" from the edge of the chassis and yes I mount my Seb Joypod bipod all the way at the end to help minimize muzzle jump and maintain site picture when shooting in LR matches
I weighed my BDS spigot at ~9.2oz (making the delta ~7oz from your pic version, more if his scale's better!) and I put my Atlas PSR as far forward as possible when shooting way out. Do you think you could push the pic version a little farther forward?
Understood and perhaps you're right, the AS might be the way I want to go. Just not certain due to the fact that the rail on that version takes the bipod contact out of the plane of the bottom of the stock, but it does bring it closer to the bore, which is a good thing I suppose...Honestly, the picatinny version is pretty much locked in, I designed it mindfully to have 5 picantinny slots to cover everything from the Atlas to the Harris, without being too long.
I don’t know if you’d notice the difference to having the bipod 1.5” closer than with the Big Dog, but maybe it does help. The Arca version will be about an inch longer than the picatinny version so maybe that would be what you’d want?
Only for ELR, I will put it all the way forward on the Big Dog and leave it, think PRS or maybe F-Class. Otherwise I completely agree with you and the bipod stays on the rail under the stock for access/speed.How do you guys reach the bipod to make adjustments on these really long rails?
I am 6'6" with long arms and I can barely reach my Atlas on the picatinny version of his mount without breaking my position. There's no way I would want anything longer on the front of my AIAT.
How do you guys reach the bipod to make adjustments on these really long rails?
I am 6'6" with long arms and I can barely reach my Atlas on the picatinny version of his mount without breaking my position. There's no way I would want anything longer on the front of my AIAT.
How do you guys reach the bipod to make adjustments on these really long rails?
I am 6'6" with long arms and I can barely reach my Atlas on the picatinny version of his mount without breaking my position. There's no way I would want anything longer on the front of my AIAT.
Here's where I run my Atlas. Any further out is too far for me.I agree. I actually don't even run the bipod all the way to the end of the handguard tube on my AX for that reason - if I set up on a prone stage I can't reach it past that point. Turns out I run my bipod on my AX in almost the exact same position as on the AT with my mount.
The Arca-Swiss design just happens to be longer to facilitate two full MLok slots. Any shorter and I'd have to compromise that functionality.
Understood and perhaps you're right, the AS might be the way I want to go. Just not certain due to the fact that the rail on that version takes the bipod contact out of the plane of the bottom of the stock, but it does bring it closer to the bore, which is a good thing I suppose...
Curious, in your posted drawing of the AS version, why did you decide to move the rail up towards the barrel, to get it closer to the bore? Asking because if you kept it close to in-plane with the bottom of the stock you could add extra material above the AS rail to absorb any minute flex in the AS portion hanging out like a cantilever in front, like you did with the pic version. At this point I'm probably steering towards wrought over-engineering, but just a thought... I'm pretty sold either way.
Cost of AE/AT picatinny mounts were $160 shipped (US only due to ITAR).
Totally reasonable approach, I'd do the 2) option from your follow-on post then as I am running the 8.8" HRD rail on my AT. Thanks again for answering all my questions as they kept coming!That was exactly my reasoning - trying to move the bipod mount as close to the bore as possible. That's one thing I didn't like about running the AT with the factory pic rail under the forend, it raised the COG of the rifle so high it felt much more unstable/tippy.
I definitely could move the Arca rail to the bottom, and have it be on the same plane as the picatinny version. However, another reason I have it mounted higher is because I figured anyone that wanted an Arca-Swiss rail at the same level as the bottom of the forend could just run a longer version of the HRD rail and have it stick out a couple inches.
There really seem to be 3 schools of thought for people that are interested in these mounts:
1) Original picatinny - no desire to use the Arca-Swiss bipod mount, and will likely leave the forend as-is.
2) Arca-Swiss (high version) - Want to run an Arca-Swiss bipod mount, OR want the option to have an MLok picatinny rail that's higher up towards the bore axis. May or may not run an HRD Arca rail on the forend.
3) Arca-Swiss (low version) - More driven by having the ability to run all bipod variants, whether it's mounted on an Arca rail or picatinny.
I'll be honest, options 1 and 2 are designed, though I don't have a formal quote for the Arca version. Option 3 is totally possible from a design standpoint, it's simply a matter of me not having my own CNC and being at the mercy of machining another version and having inventory when I don't know how many people want.
I believe this is what you seek?I know you can add a pic rail to Arca-Swiss. Does anyone make Arca-Swiss on a pic rail? To me the Arca-Swiss gives you the most options, and is the most flexible.
Hey guys, sorry for the lack of communication on getting these things made again. To be honest I’ve been focusing on getting the AT/AX thumb rests made, and that has taken more time than expected.
The picatinny version of the bipod mount is unchanged and can be made again in another run. The Arca Swiss (RRS rail) version hasn’t been made in a machined prototype yet, and I don’t want to take orders on those for something that’s untested. I want to do a run of both versions together (machining/prep/anodize) rather than one at a time just because the batch costs are so high for the small quantities I’ll be doing.
I apologize again for the delay. The thumb rests are very close to being done, and after that I can focus back up on getting the Arca bipod mount made and another batch of these going.
Thanks,
Sam
will the thumb rests be available for AT and AX?
In case anyone missed it, the thumb rests are for sale and the Group Buy can be found HERE.
I'll be out of town the rest of the week, I'm visiting a manufacturer interested in potentially partnering with me on the bipod mounts and possibly some other projects. So stayed tuned, hopefully there are some good updates coming soon!
Thanks everyone,
Sam