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Holy s. I was like that looks like a Bender I would like. Then I looked them up. $5000.00!!!!!!S&B 1-8x Dual CC Shortdot. Wish I could use this one more often.
You can also light up the tree in another mode. This is red dot dual CC mode. Pier is about 900 meters away.
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Well.....that's a shame! hahaNo turkey was injured during this encounter...
Mere pith money...Holy s. I was like that looks like a Bender I would like. Then I looked them up. $5000.00!!!!!!
I just can't get comfortable yet with the dot reticle. Anyone else have that problem? I have one of the ZCO 527 MPCTT2 reticles. I switched back to the S&B PMII H2CMR for a school coming up soon. I like everything about the scope except getting use to the reticle. Maybe my old eyes is the problem. I have trouble focusing on the dot when shooting for a 100 yard zero.
Holy Spiderweb, Batman!S&B 3-27 GR2ID - sorry for the poor image above.
Max power at 1250 meters. Yeah it's pretty awesome scope.
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In the photos the reticle takes over, due to exposure I guess.Holy Spiderweb, Batman!
I was into this ret until I saw this. All that crap above the main horizontal stadia, aieeee!
Please do, I'm curious how the 1/4 mil looks. Leupold's PR2 has open center where each hash meets stadia, I've heard this can be a pain and would like to see if SCR-Q solves that.
Now that’s some gdamn photography!ZCO 840 MPCT3X
Grain bin at 1200 yards. Low mag pics were at dusk. Higher mag pics were on overcast day.
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Good pics taken! I can only imagine the image quality in real lifeZCO 840 MPCT3X
Grain bin at 1200 yards. Low mag pics were at dusk. Higher mag pics were on overcast day.
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ZCO 840 MPCT3X
Grain bin at 1200 yards. Low mag pics were at dusk. Higher mag pics were on overcast day.
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That's some serious chromatic aberration running through the scope there, might want to send that in, almost looks like a rainbow
What’s the fov difference between the 8-40 and 5-27? And is the reticle noticeably thinner at x15 in the 8-40 than the 5-27?ZCO 840 MPCT3X
Grain bin at 1200 yards. Low mag pics were at dusk. Higher mag pics were on overcast day.
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What’s the fov difference between the 8-40 and 5-27? And is the reticle noticeably thinner at x15 in the 8-40 than the 5-27?
I find it hilarious that I am included in such a group! But thanks!I'm sure @koshkin @carbonbased @Glassaholic @beetroot can confirm/correct this as appropriate.
Can you please show a 1x in bright daylight as well ? Thanks !I tried to get a better picture of my 1-8 atacr
It's the best I can do (aka not that great) while holding a cell phone and trying to get a stable image. Roughly 800-850 yards.
I need a phone scope or something. Maybe just a real camera and tripod for it.
Can you please show a 1x in bright daylight as well ? Thanks !
Looking at the FOV specs of each (ft/100 yards) from ZCO datasheet...
420 -- 28ft @ 4x, 6ft @ 20x
527 -- 21ft @ 5x, 4.5ft @ 27x
840 -- 13.8ft @ 8x, 3ft @ 40x
A person can obviously see a reduced FOV with the increased magnification ranges. Although, relatively speaking at 15x, the 840 has more FOV. This is where a picture is worth a thousand words...
(It was snowing during pics)
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A person can see more FOV at the same relative mag setting with the 840.
A 20 mil wide FOV occurs at 21x on the 840, whereas a 20 mil wide FOV occurs at 18x on the 527. The 840 can achieve a higher magnification with the same FOV.
At 15x, I marked a spot on the wall of the outer most perimeter of the 840 FOV. In order to see that same spot on the wall with the 527, I had to move ~3.4mil horizontally. At 20x, I had to move ~1.3 mil horizontally with 527 to see the outer perimeter FOV mark of the 840.
To answer your last question, yes the reticle is thinner at 15x, but still very usable. I could easily see .2mil subtensions at 15x with the 840.
Hope this helps. A simple man's conclusion is that this scope defies optical physics.
...picture is worth a thousand words...
I am not sure I understand what the question is. Generally, ZCO seems to use more or less the same eyepiece design for all three of their scopes, but there can be some FOV differences due to small internal variations.Not an optics engineer, but...
The FOV (min and max) to magnification ratio appears proportional between the 3 ZCO models.
420 vs 527 max FOV: (4mag ÷ 5mag) x 28ft = 22.4ft.
However, in reality the 527 min magnification is closer to 5.25... (4mag ÷ 5.25mag) x 28ft = 21.3ft (21ft per specs)
420 vs 527 min FOV: (20mag ÷ 27mag) x 6ft = 4.4ft (4.5ft per specs)
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420 vs 840 max FOV: (4mag ÷ 8mag) x 28ft = 14ft (13.8ft per specs)
420 vs 840 min FOV: (20mag ÷ 40mag) x 6ft = 3ft (3ft per specs)
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527 vs 840 max FOV: (5mag ÷ 8mag) x 21ft = 13.1ft (13.8ft per specs)
527 vs 840 min FOV: (27mag ÷ 40mag) x 4.5ft = 3.0ft (3ft per specs)
This would make sense if they share an eyepiece, which drives angular FOV (doesn't change based on magnification).
I suspect zoom ring numbers (between min and max) are off enough to prevent useful FOV comparisons between scopes.
I'm sure @koshkin @carbonbased @Glassaholic @beetroot can confirm/correct this as appropriate.
This is a pretty cool picture considering the perfectly clear image and the bolt is pulled back and still in the pic. Is the eye relief really this forgiving on these Burris scopes? I could be off in my thinking.
Can you please show a 1x in bright daylight as well ? Thanks !
Any chance anyone has an H59 they could post? There's a picture in here, but it's at something like 30x. I'm curious what 12x or 18x would look like.
NEW Schmidt & Bender 5-20x50 PMII with MSR2.
Target at about 1250 meters. Not sure I got the parallax correct, it was cold as hell.
Is that CA present with your eyes or just through the camera?