Rifle Scopes Ring help. Seekins on TRG or sphur mount?

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So got a new trg 22 on order and i need rings for it. I am thinking of going with seekins. I cant seem to find the base hight info for the rail that comes on the Sako factory trg 22s. If i can get that dimension i can figure out what ring hight i need to go with my SS 5-20. Anyone know the high, or what higth seekins i should try first?

Also the other option is to take the sako rail off and go with the sphur mount with 24 moa. Little more expensive option, but may be worth it. . .what does anyone think?

Thanks
Pat
 
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Re: Ring help. Seekins on TRG or sphur mount?

I had the Badger base and ring combo. While it worked well and was pretty solid, I went wit the Spuhr mount and ain't looking back!
 
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I recently purchased a TRG-22 without the Sako rail. I also ordered a Spuhr scope mount from TNVC for a S&B scope. Ideally, the Spuhr mount that attaches directly to the Sako dovetail would be the optimal solution in my opinion.

Will let you know how it turns out. Also, PM sent.
 
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Direct mount.

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Old setup with the Badger base and USMC rings.

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Forwardeyes TRG with the Warne base, Badger USMC ring combo and mine with the Spuhr 24 MOA mount

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couple of questions on those sphur mounts

1. are the mounts for the trg22 and trg42 the same?

2. do they come in different moa...such as 20 or 30?

3. do they come in different ring height? say you have a 56mm scope and wanted to switch to a 50mm down the road...would you use the same mount...or do they make one that is 3mm lower so you scope doesnt set way up off the barrel?

thanks!
 
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Another vote for the Spuhr. I started off with a Badger base and Seekins rings, then switched to the direct-mount Spuhr. It's rock solid.

As for your questions, the 22 and 42 mounts are the same.

They do come in different cants.

Are you talking about Spuhr mounts in your 3rd question? They do make 2 different height direct mounts, but they're a lot more than 3mm different in height.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another vote for the Spuhr. I started off with a Badger base and Seekins rings, then switched to the direct-mount Spuhr. It's rock solid.

As for your questions, the 22 and 42 mounts are the same.

They do come in different cants.

Are you talking about Spuhr mounts in your 3rd question? They do make 2 different height direct mounts, but they're a lot more than 3mm different in height. </div></div>

so...if you were planning on occasionally switching between a 50mm and 56mm scope, would they use the same height mount...or would you want the lower one for the 50mm scope and get a higher one for a 56mm scope?
 
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You're not going to gain that much by having two different height mounts. A 56mm obj only needs 3mm more clearance than a 50mm, which is just under 1/8". I'm assuming you are talking about buying two mounts, one for each of your scopes? Or are you going to be pulling the scope out of the mount and putting the other one in the same mount?

Anyhow, we've got the Spuhr mounts on the website now and have them in stock for both 30mm and 34mm tubes.
Justin
 
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Re: Ring help. Seekins on TRG or sphur mount?

i think you answered my question...i was thinking i needed two different mounts (each one different heights to accommodate a 50mm and 56mm scope) but i think you are saying for a full size scope, only one is needed and will work with either size.
 
#12
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Hi

The mounts for TRG comes in two heights.
35mm (1,38") as the low version and it's not that high as there is no picatinny that builds additional height.
Those comes in 7mil/24 moa for both 30 and 34mm.
We also offers a 13mil/44,4 moa in this height for 34mm.

In 44mm height (1,73") we offers a 34mm 7 mil mount.
This is mainly for 72mm zeiss and for those who want a higher mount when using NV attachments.

Håkan
 
#13
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Hyena, yeah in a perfect world you would have each scope mounted at a height that is tailored for the scope and the objective would sit only a bit above the barrel. As we all know, reality is different and in this case the maximum benefit you could gain with two separate mounts would be .118" which would only reduce the height of the 50mm obj by less than 6% compared to the 56mm obj. So yeah one mount size for both scopes is fine.
Justin
 
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Oh my. Here I thought there was nothing else I wanted for my TRG and then I see the Spuhr. Anyone have a recommendation on where to buy them online?
 
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TNVC is where I got mine as I believe they were the first US dealer. I believe there have been a couple of other site sponsors that do carry the Spuhr mounts now.
 
#17
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So the trg came in yesterday and i love it. Question for you guys running the spurh mount though, what height cheek spacers are you running?

Also can anyone tell me the "correct way" to measure length of pull? I think i need a butt spacer as well for maximum comfort, but then again I dont have any training in shooting so who knows if my form is correct. Dont want to order a spacer and find out I am doing it wrong

Pat
 
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The other factor you need to take into account other than the objective diameter is the scope body itself i.e. 30mm or 34mm tube. A 30mm scope with a 50mm objective may have less barrel clearance than a 34mm scope with a 50mm objective because the 34mm sits slightly "higher" in the rings. But then again, you would need two separate mounts unless you used ring reducers. Also, the length of the scope if using a canted base - the longer the scope, the further out the objective will be and therefore come closer to the barrel due to the cant.
I have two Spuhr mounts on my TRGs and love them.
The only minor downside is if you are using a scope like the illuminated S&B (which has little room for the Spuhr between the illumination knob and the elevation turret housing) or the Premier (given its fat elevation turret housing) since this will limit your ability to move the scope to adjust eye relief.
Cheek height is shooter dependent. I use a 10mm with an Eagle stock pack.
LOP - bend your arm 90 degrees and curl your trigger finger as if getting ready to pull the trigger. Measure from the biceps crease to the pad on your trigger finger. This will give you a ball park estimate of your LOP. If you shoot mainly prone, you can set the rifle up for that position (LOP, eye relief). If you then go to shoot in the sitting position, you may find the scope or LOP too far. Compromise.
 
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The mount have multiple recoillug holes so the mount can be adjusted lenghtwise instead of moving the scope.
The TRG rail does also have multiple holes, so you will surely find somehting that fits you, and that without moving the scope in the rings.

When it comes to buttlength the only way as I see is to try.
I am using a 1,25" longer LOP when shoting prone than on other positions.

Håkan
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SLUHstud</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So the trg came in yesterday and i love it. Question for you guys running the spurh mount though, what height cheek spacers are you running?</div></div>

I have the Sphur mount on my TRG and I use a cheek spacer from SakoTRG FAN. Contact him on the forum or search for his custom TRG spacer thread to get more details. I ended up getting a .375" spacer as it seemed popular and ended up being what I needed.

I roughly found what size spacer I needed by buying some rubber wall base moulding at a home improvement store and making a spacer template using the TRG cheekrest, cost only a few dollars. The moulding I bought was roughly 3mm thick and I found that having 3 spacers was almost perfect so I needed something in between 9-10mm.

Here is a pic of the final spacer from SakoTRG FAN, I recommend getting the curved end though it costs a little extra:

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Bazgab,

Thanks for the pic, I am going to get it through him as you suggested. I was just trying to see if there was a common height people liked with the sphur since i dont have it in hand yet. I am itching to get this thing out to shoot so was trying to cut out any down time between ordering parts. Guess ill just wait till the mount and scope are in hand and do it right the first time.

Pat
 
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I am looking at getting a Spuhr mount for my TRG-22. I have a S&B 34mm with a 56mm objective with the illuminated reticle. I have two questions. First as someone mentioned above that this scope was a tight fight for this mount, is it recommended not to use this mount with my scope? Second I currently have it mounted up on 1" rings. I like the elevation of that, as this mount doesn't use a rails what height should I get the mount in that would be closest to my current setup and b) would clear the barrel?
 
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OP,

If you add up the cost of a pic rail, good rings and a good level, you are very close to the cost of the SPUHR mount.

And you have a conglomeration of stuff piled up that is nowhere near as functional or slick as the SPUHR mount.

Also, if you ever want to add any accessories, the SPUHR is ready to bolt it on.
 
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