RIP Seals

[Maggot]

Navy identifies 2 SEALs declared dead after going missing ...​

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1 hour ago — The Navy on Monday identified two SEALs who were declared dead days after going missing during an Iranian weapons seizure off the African coast ...

 

[Holliday]

RIP……

 

[Milf Dots]

Rest In peace, men.

 

[Keeper22]

God's Speed warriors, RIP

 

[stanley_white]

I wonder if they had cutaway gear or spare air.

-Stan

 

[Eostech]

I wonder if they had cutaway gear or spare air.

-Stan

They weren’t underwater and may not even have been on the water.

 

[stanley_white]

They weren’t underwater and may not even have been on the water.

Source for this info?

-Stan

 

[Slash0311]

Smoke and prayers.

 

[Ronws]

Thread title is misspelled. SEAL is all capitals. A group of them would be SEALs.

God bless the departed.

Accomplish the objective regardless of obstacles.

The only easy day was yesterday.

Second place is first place for losers, it pays to be a winner.

Everyone goes home.

And God bless us for the fine bravery and sacrifice these men and their families have made.

 

[Baron23]

Fucking tragedy. I wonder if they were sucked into the prop...cause those boys can swim and are generally kitted up very well for water work. We will probably never know.

Guy on the left is a former member of the elite team of the elite SEAL teams. Guy on the right is my good friend and one of the best skeet coaches in the world and trained up the SEAL to shoot the NSSA skeet World Championship! And this is them after the coach convinced him that he could hunt quail in Georgia on two prosthetic legs. I was never even in the same universe of toughness as that guy.

Bit of a funny story, when the SEAL guy was in the hospital the Doc came in to see him about prosthetics and the SEAL said "I only have one thing to say to you!" Doc said "what, SEAL guy?" SEAL said "I always wanted to be 6 foot tall and never made it. I want to be at least six feet in these new legs". And now he's six foot tall

 

[Milf Dots]

They weren’t underwater and may not even have been on the water.

Almost all news reports state one SEAL fell from a boarding rope ladder after a wave hit him, and that the other SEAL went in to help him- as their training and culture requires.

Effin' shame they weren't found alive.

 

[Holliday]

Almost all news reports state one SEAL fell from a boarding rope ladder after a wave hit him, and that the other SEAL went in to help him- as their training and culture requires.

Effin' shame they weren't found alive.

That is the report I heard.

Real damn heroes, in a fucked up world of too many faux ones….

 

[Maggot]

Source for this info?

-Stan

That is the report I heard.

Real damn heroes, in a fucked up world of too many faux ones….

Thats what I read as well.

 

[Eostech]

Source for this info?

-Stan

The article is the source for not being under water, while it is convenient for US combat personal to drown in international waters than in a country they shouldn't be in. Who knows what the truth is.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

Almost all news reports state one SEAL fell from a boarding rope ladder after a wave hit him, and that the other SEAL went in to help him- as their training and culture requires.

Effin' shame they weren't found alive.

Well if that’s the case then its impossible to swim with all the Gear they have on (vest ammo weapons etc)

 

[45-90]

Yep, the rumor is they were all geared up with weapons, bullet proof vests, ammo, all the combat gear....the first one slipped and fell into the ocean in the bottom of the waves in rough seas...the other seal jumped in to rescue his team mate. They both sunk like millstones were tied around their necks, with all their gear on.
So, that's the official story given to the public.
It aint the first time, ...the Navy had this problem before and suffered disastrous results. Four over loaded personal in the assault drowned in the ocean in Grenada.
Seems like this needs to be seriously addressed by the commanders, inside the seal teams, and current training. A really sad situation, that should have been avoided.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

Fox wants my email to read the story. Fuck-em.

 

[skytrooper67]

RIP Commandos . They just went to heaven to regroup!

 

[Namekagon]

Yep, the rumor is they were all geared up with weapons, bullet proof vests, ammo, all the combat gear....the first one slipped and fell into the ocean in the bottom of the waves in rough seas...the other seal jumped in to rescue his team mate. They both sunk like millstones were tied around their necks, with all their gear on.
So, that's the official story given to the public.
It aint the first time, ...the Navy had this problem before and suffered disastrous results. Four over loaded personal in the assault drowned in the ocean in Grenada.
Seems like this needs to be seriously addressed by the commanders, inside the seal teams, and current training. A really sad situation, that should have been avoided.

I don't buy this story. These guys are trained to operate in or around water. The idea that they aren't prepared to jump into the water due to their gear is BS. That is just the story they figure they can feed the public and have us believe it.

I guarantee their carriers are quick detach, no way that has been overlooked. I would think there is also a good chance they are using buoyant body armor, but not sure. If it was just the guy falling from the ladder, I could buy him being injured by impact and unable to swim. But to have a second guy go down with him, something else had to happen. RIP.

 

[Rio Precision Gunworks]

Yep, the rumor is they were all geared up with weapons, bullet proof vests, ammo, all the combat gear....the first one slipped and fell into the ocean in the bottom of the waves in rough seas...the other seal jumped in to rescue his team mate. They both sunk like millstones were tied around their necks, with all their gear on.
So, that's the official story given to the public.
It aint the first time, ...the Navy had this problem before and suffered disastrous results. Four over loaded personal in the assault drowned in the ocean in Grenada.
Seems like this needs to be seriously addressed by the commanders, inside the seal teams, and current training. A really sad situation, that should have been avoided.

LOL. Just no.

You're not running maritime operations with equipment that will sink and drown you before you can get it off.


Sucks for the families and team to lose them. But this definitely wasn't how it happened. It was very likely seas too rough for them to last, or something else that happened while in water/next to vessel they were boarding. No matter how tough or how good you're trained, if the seas are rough enough, you're just not gonna make it.

 

[babyguppy]

RIP Commandos . They just went to heaven to regroup!

- As I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil, for I am the meanest son of a bitch in the valley
All SEALs go to heaven, because the devil is worried, they'll take over Hell

 

[babyguppy]

LOL. Just no.

You're not running maritime operations with equipment that will sink and drown you before you can get it off.


Sucks for the families and team to lose them. But this definitely wasn't how it happened. It was very likely seas too rough for them to last, or something else that happened while in water/next to vessel they were boarding. No matter how tough or how good you're trained, if the seas are rough enough, you're just not gonna make it.

Only a few men know the truth about what happened. We may find out in 15 years or never.

 

[babyguppy]

Wouldn't they have emergency locators on them?
Load out vest back in the 70's, guys carried a flare.
All this technology, and someone's going to tell me, not one person had a small GPS emergency locator?.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

OK, I read the story on another site.
So, we lost two of our finest, boarding a ship, that may (or may not) have weapons on it.
So WE are now the pirates off the Horn of Africa?
If the ship was loaded with illegal weapons, why not just put a missile in her side and watch her sink to the bottom?
What a waste of our boys for politician's delight.

 

[skytrooper67]

Yup....Like there were no combat troops in Cambodia or Laos! All BS

 

[Mr.BR]

Yup....Like there were no combat troops in Cambodia or Laos! All BS

Indeed its quite likely something went sideways in Yemen , but we can't have Brandon's reelection campaign threatened by bodybags coming from an illegal and unsanctioned war.

 

[BScore]

What’s screwed up, at least to me, is that there has to be a contingency for a guy falling in the water. That’s the first thing that can go wrong with this type of deal. So… no real plan in place for this happening? I really doubt it. Anybody who has been in the service for more than 10 minutes knows this sort of thing is “what if’ed” to hell. Off the top of my head, they would for sure have water wings on, quick drop plate carriers, ir strobes etc. Also, there had to at least be a second boat on the scene pulling security and a FLIR capable UAV or helicopter up. Not to mention, I assume they have water proof/resistant comms. Unless the water was really rough or they both sunk straight to the bottom, they shouldn’t have been too hard to find. Also, ship search and seizure is Navy Seal 101, practiced often and done pretty regular. There was a serious screw up somewhere down the line that is/won’t be revealed.

 

[Namekagon]

Achim's razor would suggest that maybe the terrorists shot the first couple guys off the ladder. Or maybe the second guy died trying to retrieve his wounded comrade from the water and something bad happened. I doubt the terrorists just handed a boat full of weapons over peacefully to the SEALs. Biden Admin doesn't want to admit things just got real with Yemen. My $0.02.

 

[Ronws]

Yup....Like there were no combat troops in Cambodia or Laos! All BS

I knew a guy, a friend of mine who could say "I still have the shovel."

3 active combat tours from 1964 to 1969.

 

[hero's machine]

We'll never know the truth...but I hope they took a magazine worth of guys before they were done.

 

[Ronws]

We'll never know the truth...but I hope they took a magazine worth of guys before they were done.

Yeah, I wanted to say take 100 heads for each. They were in harm's way to catch bad guys doing bad things.

 

[kc7pwx]

The story that I read stated that the first guy go knocked off a rope ladder by a wave and then fell into a gap between the boarding craft and the ship and the second went in after him.
So its possible they got sucked into the propeller or crushed between the boarding craft and the ship before they could get their gear off.

 

[TexPatriot]

Damn. Just damn.

RIP Warriors.

 

[Maggot]

The story that I read stated that the first guy go knocked off a rope ladder by a wave and then fell into a gap between the boarding craft and the ship and the second went in after him.
So its possible they got sucked into the propeller or crushed between the boarding craft and the ship before they could get their gear off.

YOu'd still think, like mentioned above, they'd have some sort of GPS device.

 

[TheHorta]

Achim's razor would suggest that maybe the terrorists shot the first couple guys off the ladder. Or maybe the second guy died trying to retrieve his wounded comrade from the water and something bad happened. I doubt the terrorists just handed a boat full of weapons over peacefully to the SEALs. Biden Admin doesn't want to admit things just got real with Yemen. My $0.02.

Occam’s.

 

[Ronws]

Occam’s.

I caught that, too, but I thought he was making a pun.

 

[Namekagon]

Occam’s.

Haha damn phone autocorrected to that and I didn't even question it. Though I remember thinking "That's a messed up spelling."

 

[Maggot]

Occam’s.

Achim is the muzzie equivalent of Occam

 

[uffduh]

I caught that, too, but I thought he was making a pun.

So now it's Achim'sNack Bar. Noted.

 

[x2cross]

R.I.P. to the fallen, but ya'll some suckers if you think the published story is even close to the truth. I'm sure the operators were doing a completely different mission, and in an area we're not supposed to be.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Probably going to have to wait for the book.

 

[skytrooper67]

There are no combat troops on Cambodia or Laos!! Ya right.

 

[Ronws]

There are no combat troops on Cambodia or Laos!! Ya right.

Amazon.com : politically incorrect guide to vietnam

We were in Laos and in Cambodia because we were invited to be there to fight elements of the NVA and VC that got in there. My friend, per his own description, spent 3 Christmases on the laotian-cambodian border. His specialty was remote detonation of ordnance. He would sneak into the encampments and tunnels and plant charges and then get out and far enough away. Once enough enemy agents returned, tap the switch and ka-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom, raining pho soup all over.

Discharge under general circumstances because he smacked the XO on the boat ride back to the states. He was a second class petty officer and walked off the gangway a seaman.

 

[babyguppy]

There are no combat troops on Cambodia or Laos!! Ya right.

no 'boots' on the ground in Syria as well...