Just wanted to share what I have found. I bought 500 of these after reading some decent reviews on the interwebz and they seem to be pretty dang consistent, at least through my non-scientific measurements. OAL ES of 0.007", Weight ES of 0.12gr, and a BTO ES of only 0.002"! Now, I only measured a random sample of 25 out of the 500 received but color me impressed, especially for the price. Make sure to read the disclosure about these on their website, something about corn cob media being stuck in the tip of the bullet due to the lack of a wet polish because of some wastewater management issue. But for what I need, they seem to be pretty good bullets @ 16 cents a bullet. Down to 14.2 cents if you buy 2,000 of them. I'm going to try to get out Friday and shoot a few dozen and see how they perform. I may be late to the party but they seem like a nearly identical copy of the green box of the same weight.