Ruger Precision Rifle Discussion

[straightshooter1]

What's the consensus on these ~$800 gen 2 6mm Creedmoor rifles?

I understand going in that for the most part the RPR is good but not the best and I'll probably end up modifying it.

It's between this or a 6.5 Grendel ar15

I think there's no question that the RPR is NOT the "best". To get the "best" you're going to have to spend a LOT more than $800. But the 6mm CM RPR is a darn good buy and it shoots great . . . as attested by a man and his son were exclaiming to me today at the range how their new 6mm CM was shooting sub 1/2" out of the box with factory match ammo. They approached me when they saw me firing my .308 and wondered what I was shooting. With that good of results they got, they said they may not be doing any hand loading. They said they really like shooting that RPR as the recoil is so manageable they can easily stay on target and see their POI's. Well, that's only one satisfied user, but I've talked with a couple other who also had high praise for the RPR in a 6.5 CM.

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ I shoot with a lot of military and police snipers. Was out with a few just the other day. I’m approached pretty often by these guys about my RPR .308 as well. Especially on the 1000 yard line. Sure it’s not the best rifle, but the accuracy that this rifle produces right out of the box, especially with hand loads, and at this price, is just truly amazing.

 

[nick112288]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a rebarrel is just regular AR tools and some go/no go gauges right? Same with stock? Just an armorers tool?

I've built ar's so it would be nice to have a bolt gun I can work over instead of relying on a Smith.

 

[straightshooter1]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a rebarrel is just regular AR tools and some go/no go gauges right? Same with stock? Just an armorers tool?

Yes, "regular AR tools" to include barrel vise and torque wrench. Being very mechanically inclined and a somewhat experienced mechanic , I found it to be very easy having done this myself for the first time. It took me about 1/2 hr and the results turned out great.

 

[nick112288]

Is there anything that is a must change immediately? I know the bolt shroud went through a couple changes, anything wrong with the gen 2?

Also I know another change was the hand guard is a potential issue with scope size. Is it really that big of a problem?

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ The first thing to go for me was the grip. Basically anything is better than the factory one. Small and hard plastic with a finger groove not really where it should be

 

[10ring1]

What's the consensus on these ~$800 gen 2 6mm Creedmoor rifles?

I understand going in that for the most part the RPR is good but not the best and I'll probably end up modifying it.

It's between this or a 6.5 Grendel ar15

You won't be sorry. Look at some of my posts

 

[straightshooter1]

Is there anything that is a must change immediately? I know the bolt shroud went through a couple changes, anything wrong with the gen 2?

Mine is a Gen2 and IMHO, there's nothing that must be changed immediately . . . not even the bolt shroud. I still have the original shroud on mine as there has never been a issue with it. Though I did have Ruger send me a replacement for free since my serial number was on their list for a replacement. I just haven't had any need to change it out having fired over 4400 rounds to date . If I ever sell the rifle, I'll put the new shroud on in case there's any concerns by a buyer.

Also I know another change was the hand guard is a potential issue with scope size. Is it really that big of a problem?

I guess that depends on the scope . . . or more so on the rings height. Maybe someone else had some kind of issue along that line, I'm just not aware of any. So, I'd say . . . NO, no big problem.

 

[Carlos Danger]

I think there's no question that the RPR is NOT the "best". To get the "best" you're going to have to spend a LOT more than $800. But the 6mm CM RPR is a darn good buy and it shoots great . . . as attested by a man and his son were exclaiming to me today at the range how their new 6mm CM was shooting sub 1/2" out of the box with factory match ammo. They approached me when they saw me firing my .308 and wondered what I was shooting. With that good of results they got, they said they may not be doing any hand loading. They said they really like shooting that RPR as the recoil is so manageable they can easily stay on target and see their POI's. Well, that's only one satisfied user, but I've talked with a couple other who also had high praise for the RPR in a 6.5 CM.

My 6mm was my first "big money" gun to date. I dont have a ton of disposable income and things are tight but my good friend has one in 6.5 Creed and I shot it a couple times. I liked it. Mine could shoot some pretty solid groups.

This was one at 250 yards....

Only ran Hornady match 108's through it. I did find out I had an issue (no freebore) and it was sent back to Ruger.

For reasons beyond my understanding (I have my suspiscions) they couldnt make it right. I'm thoroughly pleased with how they handled the solution.

In a week or so I should be into the replacement and hope to have all the hand loads I want ready for testing. I wasnt set up for hand loads when I had the first one.

Can "better" rifles be had than this? Surely. This was, as it is for many, a lower cost start to play the game.

 

[Chernobyl]

Looking to buy aftermarket mag for rpr 6.5 since I have to load Berger and eldm 140 pills approx .100 off lands to fit in mag. I know many guys have suggested the 7.62 pmag with brown follower. Does anyone know the part number for this mag because when i look on magpul website I only see the pmags which say in the description “for best results use pmags with brown follower for 6.5 Creedmoor”.

Any other mags y’all suggest to get max c.o.l?

 

[Chernobyl]

Okay I misread description initially and now have found the pmag many suggest. They accept a col of 2.86 compared to factory pmags which accept a col of 2.83. Any other mags out there that may accept a little longer cartridge? A 2.86 col mag still has my 140 Berger pills 0.070 off lands.

 

[straightshooter1]

Okay I misread description initially and now have found the pmag many suggest. They accept a col of 2.86 compared to factory pmags which accept a col of 2.83. Any other mags out there that may accept a little longer cartridge? A 2.86 col mag still has my 140 Berger pills 0.070 off lands.

You might want to take a look at an Alpha Type 2 mag. I got one of these for my .308 as I load out to the lands and it allows me to go past 2.900.

http://www.alphaindmfg.com/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=20

 

[Chernobyl]

Looks like the alpha will hold everything I need and more. Ordering some today. Thanks.

 

[thecolter]

Finally got out and did some load testing and found a winner. 140 grain ELD-M over 42.6 grains of H4350 with a COAL of 2.825" seems to do the trick. Getting 2720fps out of the factory 24" barrel with around 1/2 MOA groups. Bone stock RPR with the exception of the Magpul PRS swap.

I've always been a fan of a two-stage trigger and wonder if the Timney would be a worthwhile upgrade over the stock unit. It's a bit on the pricey side and the stock trigger is not that bad at all.

 

[BU37377]

Finally got out and did some load testing and found a winner. 140 grain ELD-M over 42.6 grains of H4350 with a COAL of 2.825" seems to do the trick. Getting 2720fps out of the factory 24" barrel with around 1/2 MOA groups. Bone stock RPR with the exception of the Magpul PRS swap.

I've always been a fan of a two-stage trigger and wonder if the Timney would be a worthwhile upgrade over the stock unit. It's a bit on the pricey side and the stock trigger is not that bad at all.

I think the Timney is worth it but you may not. If you can find someone that has an RPR with one in your area I'd check with them if you could try theirs. Are you in the New England area? If you are depending on where you are I'd let you try mine.

 

[pell1203]

Finally got out and did some load testing and found a winner. 140 grain ELD-M over 42.6 grains of H4350 with a COAL of 2.825" seems to do the trick. Getting 2720fps out of the factory 24" barrel with around 1/2 MOA groups. Bone stock RPR with the exception of the Magpul PRS swap.

I've always been a fan of a two-stage trigger and wonder if the Timney would be a worthwhile upgrade over the stock unit. It's a bit on the pricey side and the stock trigger is not that bad at all.

Same exact 42.6 grain high node and COAL as I found on my 6.5 CM RPR with the 140 ELD-M bullets. Only difference being I settled on the node just below yours at 41.2 grains of H4350, COAL of 2.825", and an MV of 2685 fps. I was hoping to get slightly extended barrel life at the lower node and so far accuracy and velocity are still good with 2242 rounds down the tube.

Five shot groups still consistently hover on either side of 0.5 MOA as well.

 

[Drewdemon]

Has anyone tried Lapua brass in 6.5 CM with the small primers in their RPR? Any issues?

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

Has anyone tried Lapua brass in 6.5 CM with the small primers in their RPR? Any issues?

I’ve used Peterson small primer brass without an issue

 

[TheMythicalWhiteDingo]

Has anyone tried Lapua brass in 6.5 CM with the small primers in their RPR? Any issues?

I run 6.5 Lapua brass necked down to 6mm creedmoor. I was having issues with 400 cci primers (piercing primers, cratering, etc...). Once I switched to 450's it went away.

 

[6gunner]

I’m up to 1400 rounds now in my RPR. I was looking at the Hawk Hill Custom RPR barrels. I’ve read they make awesome barrels. Anyone try one on their RPR?

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

I’m up to 1400 rounds now in my RPR. I was looking at the Hawk Hill Custom RPR barrels. I’ve read they make awesome barrels. Anyone try one on their RPR?

If you have the stock hand guard you’re fine. If you have a seekins it won’t work.

 

[65rpr]

My Gen 2 RPR in 6.5cm shooting at 1335 yards with custom handloads. The top right and bottom impacts were from my girlfriend (she shoots better not 7 months pregnant). The center 3 are mine, we each shot 3 rounds. Not bad for a bone stock rpr.

 

[treillw]

Any suggestions on the best setup for mounting a Gen II Razor 4.5-27 on a RPR? Best ring height?

I have used nightforce rings for my other scopes, but I'm wondering if it would be better to go with something from vortex for this scope. Also would like a scope level in the rear ring cap.

Thanks!

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

Any suggestions on the best setup for mounting a Gen II Razor 4.5-27 on a RPR? Best ring height?

I have used nightforce rings for my other scopes, but I'm wondering if it would be better to go with something
from vortex for this scope. Also would like a scope level in the rear ring cap.

Thanks!

A few people I know are running ARC x-high rings. I’m running Seekins x-high with my razor. You need roughly 1.42”

 

[6gunner]

If you have the stock hand guard you’re fine. If you have a seekins it won’t work.

I contacted them and that is no longer the case. Here is their reply.

“We took all the barrels off the website that wouldn't, all the ones on the website from now on will work with the seekins.“

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

I contacted them and that is no longer the case. Here is their reply.

“We took all the barrels off the website that wouldn't, all the ones on the website from now on will work with the seekins.“

Thanks for the info! I wasn’t aware that they changed their design.

 

[6gunner]

Thanks for the info! I wasn’t aware that they changed their design.

I placed my order last night and received a notification that it shipped today.

 

[Carlos Danger]

I'll post this up purely as a gesture to help fellow members here as no one said a word about the last post I made about this issue. My replacement RPR showed up today and it has EXACTLY the same issue as the first one I sent back to the factory. Its jamming factory ammo into the lands.

Could barely close and open the bolt and it pulled the bullet out of the case around .015" just to get it out.

Theres something going on with their 6 Creed barrels and no one seems to be talking about it. The odds of me getting two different guns in two different generations with the same problem has to be pretty slim.

 

[LloydBraun]

I'll post this up purely as a gesture to help fellow members here as no one said a word about the last post I made about this issue. My replacement RPR showed up today and it has EXACTLY the same issue as the first one I sent back to the factory. Its jamming factory ammo into the lands.

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Could barely close and open the bolt and it pulled the bullet out of the case around .015" just to get it out.

Theres something going on with their 6 Creed barrels and no one seems to be talking about it. The odds of me getting two different guns in two different generations with the same problem has to be pretty slim.

That sucks. Mine is 2 months old and factory 108 ELD’s are .005 off the lands.

 

[LongRangeLefty]

I'll post this up purely as a gesture to help fellow members here as no one said a word about the last post I made about this issue. My replacement RPR showed up today and it has EXACTLY the same issue as the first one I sent back to the factory. Its jamming factory ammo into the lands.

View attachment 7051964

Could barely close and open the bolt and it pulled the bullet out of the case around .015" just to get it out.

Theres something going on with their 6 Creed barrels and no one seems to be talking about it. The odds of me getting two different guns in two different generations with the same problem has to be pretty slim.

Maybe just remove it and reinstall it yourself

 

[Carlos Danger]

That sucks. Mine is 2 months old and factory 108 ELD’s are .005 off the lands.

You must be one of the lucky ones.

 

[Reverend Mark]

The Magpul PRS Gen 3 Stock finally called to me loud enough. Especially after the factory Ruger stock adjustments kept binding up randomly last trip out. Only thing left to do is decide on a Timney or not...

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ Nice. My factory stock does that a lot too. I don’t adjust it enough to really care, but if I were to replace it that would be why

 

[Reverend Mark]

^ I had another person want to try it. Had forgotten how bad it was to adjust. They laughed at me getting annoyed, that was probably the straw, lol.

 

[bgavin]

My friend got a proof research carbon barrel. We are trying to install today. What torque do we use on the jam nuts?

Thanks

 

[long range dogr]

Was to lazy to sift through this whole thread......

Anybody running an RPR is 338 lapooey? Mines sitting at my ffl waiting to be picked up.... damn snow!!!!!!

 

[Reverend Mark]

My friend got a proof research carbon barrel. We are trying to install today. What torque do we use on the jam nuts?

Thanks

Non-Magnum, best info I could find is in the 35-80 ftlbs range. A couple people say 50-55 is their go-to.
Magnum, 150 ftlbs

 

[bgavin]

It’s a 308 originally with the new barrel 6.5 creedmoor.

 

[Howland]

Was to lazy to sift through this whole thread......

Anybody running an RPR is 338 lapooey? Mines sitting at my ffl waiting to be picked up.... damn snow!!!!!!

You're going to like it. Now quit being a little wuss, drop that rig into 4L and go pick it up.

The nice thing is, when you pick it up, go out to the front parking lot of the LGS and touch off a round in the general direction of home. It will melt all snow and ice and clear the roads. Not suitable for drifts over three feet.

 

[supratt96]

I haven't had my RPR out since last summer, so I dusted it off and put a few rounds through it today. I tried a new load and apparently my rifle REALLY likes it. Shot one of the best 5 shot groups I have ever managed with any rifle. The rifle is a Gen 1 RPR I had re-barreled to 6 Dasher (26" Hawk Hill) by PVA back when the RPRs first came out. The original 243 Win factory barrel was a turd.

Load info: Norma brass, CCI 400 primer, 33.5 gr VVN-550, 107 gr SMK, 2.353 OAL, muzzle velocity 2902 fps, per Quickload. I didn't actually chrono it. This is well below max and there were no pressure signs. I did try moving up on the charge in .2 grain increments to 34.1, but the groups started to open up although there were still no pressure signs. 33.5 grains was definitely the sweet spot.

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ I had another person want to try it. Had forgotten how bad it was to adjust. They laughed at me getting annoyed, that was probably the straw, lol.

Ha! In my stock’s defense, I got rid of the springs cause I kept turning the nuts just a little too far and they’d go flying. I decided to just finally leave it alone!

 

[021411]

Can someone please refresh my memory. Is this the factory barrel jam nut to set headspace? Just going through my parts bin..

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ yes it’s the factory barrel nut

 

[021411]

^ yes it’s the factory barrel nut

There were two right? The jam nut I attached and a standard barrel nut..

 

[LongRangeLefty]

There were two right? The jam nut I attached and a standard barrel nut..

Yes. One is the barrel but and the other is the handguard nut. Seeing as how the threads are exterior on the one you attached, I believe that one is the barrel not. The handguard nut then threads over top of that one

 

[021411]

Yes. One is the barrel but and the other is the handguard nut. Seeing as how the threads are exterior on the one you attached, I believe that one is the barrel not. The handguard nut then threads over top of that one

Thanks again. My RPR has been dormant for awhile. Just going through stuff I had in a box. I’m using a PVA nut setup with a Seekins rail. Thinking about getting the Catalyst Arms Fast Track rail and per their instructions retains the factory jam nut.

 

[Brent B]

I'll post this up purely as a gesture to help fellow members here as no one said a word about the last post I made about this issue. My replacement RPR showed up today and it has EXACTLY the same issue as the first one I sent back to the factory. Its jamming factory ammo into the lands.

View attachment 7051964

Could barely close and open the bolt and it pulled the bullet out of the case around .015" just to get it out.

Theres something going on with their 6 Creed barrels and no one seems to be talking about it. The odds of me getting two different guns in two different generations with the same problem has to be pretty slim.

I just checked my factory 6 creed bbl with a factory Hornady match 108gr ELD bullet colored with black sharpie marker. Mine showed 5 smooth copper "marks" that were approx. 0.2" long that began 0.060" past the end of the brass. No hard bolt closure and no pulling out the bullet in the least. Shoots well approx. O.5-0.6 MOA. Sorry you are having problems.

 

[LongRangeLefty]

Thanks again. My RPR has been dormant for awhile. Just going through stuff I had in a box. I’m using a PVA nut setup with a Seekins rail. Thinking about getting the Catalyst Arms Fast Track rail and per their instructions retains the factory jam nut.

NP. I’ve got bags of old original parts. I rarely get rid of any of that

 

[straightshooter1]

Can someone please refresh my memory. Is this the factory barrel jam nut to set headspace? Just going through my parts bin..
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Yes, it's the barrel nut.

So that some other's who read this may not be confused with your question, this barrel nut does NOT "set head space". It will lock in the head space after you set it by how far you screw the barrel in having measured the distance with go & no-go gauges.

 

[Carlos Danger]

I just checked my factory 6 creed bbl with a factory Hornady match 108gr ELD bullet colored with black sharpie marker. Mine showed 5 smooth brass "marks" that were approx. 0.2" long that began 0.060" past the end of the brass. No hard bolt closure and no pulling out the bullet in the least. Shoots well approx. O.5-0.6 MOA. Sorry you are having problems.

Maybe I'm just a lucky guy.