Ruger Precision Rifle Discussion

One thing alot of guys has ran into is the nut being pushed up against the barrel an not letting the nut spin lose.

LOL! Precisely where I am at now except my armorers wrench, a crappy Gem State Armorers wrench, has given up the ghost. Main body has warped, inserts have deformed and indexing pins have come loose. I will be purchasing a Magpul wrench from somewhere before the weekend is over.

I did manage to move the nut and barrel together for slightly over a full turn without success.
 
LOL! Precisely where I am at now except my armorers wrench, a crappy Gem State Armorers wrench, has given up the ghost. Main body has warped, inserts have deformed and indexing pins have come loose. I will be purchasing a Magpul wrench from somewhere before the weekend is over.

I did manage to move the nut and barrel together for slightly over a full turn without success.
Once the barrel nut is slightly loosened you should be able to spin the receiver off the barrel. Then when the action is completely off the barrel you can fully take off the barrel nut from the barrel
 
Several pages back someone was asking about getting an RPR in 300 PRC and being able to swap in a 6.5 PRC barrel.

The question was being able to reliably feed it out of the long action mags. Has anyone done this or have any ideas about it?
 
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Well, the Magpul wrench arrived today and I went to work with the barrel held in a vise. The Magpul wrench on the barrel nut with a 2 foot long piece of pipe on it trying to turn counter clockwise when looking from the muzzle. And, the Anarchy Outdoors action rod in the receiver twisting in the opposite direction (clockwise) of the barrel nut. NOTHING MOVED!

I current have a gap about a business card thick between the threaded end of the barrel nut and the barrel’s shoulder so I believe I should be able to get the barrel nut to break free by trying to loosen it off the receiver. My hope is that if I can accomplish this then I can remove the receiver using the action rod. However, this appears to be much easier said than done! o_O

Is it just a matter of using greater force (longer cheater bars/pipes 😱) or is there something else I should try first?

Maybe put some heat on the end of the receiver and barrel nut to see if I can get some expansion and then try to turn the receiver/nut assembly off together as one unit? Is this a terrible idea?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I’m beginning to get frustrated and am about ready to take this to a pro to handle with their “big boy” tools. (y) :cool: :giggle:
 
Well, the Magpul wrench arrived today and I went to work with the barrel held in a vise. The Magpul wrench on the barrel nut with a 2 foot long piece of pipe on it trying to turn counter clockwise when looking from the muzzle. And, the Anarchy Outdoors action rod in the receiver twisting in the opposite direction (clockwise) of the barrel nut. NOTHING MOVED!

I current have a gap about a business card thick between the threaded end of the barrel nut and the barrel’s shoulder so I believe I should be able to get the barrel nut to break free by trying to loosen it off the receiver. My hope is that if I can accomplish this then I can remove the receiver using the action rod. However, this appears to be much easier said than done! o_O

Is it just a matter of using greater force (longer cheater bars/pipes 😱) or is there something else I should try first?

Maybe put some heat on the end of the receiver and barrel nut to see if I can get some expansion and then try to turn the receiver/nut assembly off together as one unit? Is this a terrible idea?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I’m beginning to get frustrated and am about ready to take this to a pro to handle with their “big boy” tools. (y) :cool: :giggle:

I had my barrel firmly in a barrel vice, so I grabbed my heavy rubber mallet and whacked the wrench a couple of firm strokes. On the second whack, the barrel nut broke free. If that hadn't worked, I was prepared to apply some heat to the barrel nut. I've used heat a few times before to loosen up nuts (mostly on engines) and it works pretty well. You really don't want to heat the receiver to get the nut loose as you just want the nut to expand a little. But if there's a problem with getting the barrel loose from the receiver, then heat to the receiver where the barrel screws in would be an option.
 
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Maybe put some heat on the end of the receiver and barrel nut to see if I can get some expansion and then try to turn the receiver/nut assembly off together as one unit? Is this a terrible idea?
I would be very apprehensive about heating the receiver, sounds like an excellent way to mess up the heat treatment.
 
I had my barrel firmly in a barrel vice, so I grabbed my heavy rubber mallet and whacked the wrench a couple of firm strokes. On the second whack, the barrel nut broke free. If that hadn't worked, I was prepared to apply some heat to the barrel. I've used heat a few times before to loosen up nuts (mostly on engines) and it works pretty well. You really don't want to heat the receiver to get the nut loose as you just want the nut to expand a little. But if there's a problem with getting the barrel loose from the receiver, then heat to the receiver where the barrel screws in would be an option.
Try this. I also used a shit ton of MPPL from maxima oils and let it soak in for 20-30 minutes. I also use a empty toilet paper roll, cut and rolled around the barrel where it resides in the vise for extra grip too.
 
SUCCESS!!!! Finally got the barrel nut loose. Just needed to use a bigger hammer!!! Choked up on an 8# :eek: sledge hammer, gave it two little love taps, and everything came apart no problem in 5 seconds.

Thanks for all the advice and encouragement you all provided here. It gave me the confidence to stay on it.(y)
Hell ya nice! Clean that barrel nut good. If it was anything like mine it was caked up with red loctite. Congrats
 
Not quite there yet! On to the next issue!

Went to put handguard back on and slid nut assembly down barrel to screw it onto the barrel nut and it would not go the last 4” or so.

I did some measuring of the outside diameters of the barrels over the thickest portion, last 3.5-4” closest to the receiver, and the inside diameter of the handguard nut opening. The diameters are as follows:

RPR original factory barrel OD: 1.001”
RPR Gen 2 handguard nut ID: 1.015”
RPR prefit replacement barrel OD: 1.024”

Evident from the above measurements, the handguard nut easily slides over the factory barrel without interference. Unfortunately, it hangs up about 4” short of its intended location over the thicker diameter of the prefit barrel. Barrel is sourced from a very reputable and well known supplier but I would have expected an RPR prefit part to have fit directly without interference as supplied.

1. Anyone here run into this issue before?
2. Did I simply get an out of spec barrel?
3. Should I just have the inside diameter of the handguard nut opened up another .015” and save the hassle of removing barrel and perhaps having to send it back?

Thanks again for your suggestions!
 
Not quite there yet! On to the next issue!

Went to put handguard back on and slid nut assembly down barrel to screw it onto the barrel nut and it would not go the last 4” or so.

I did some measuring of the outside diameters of the barrels over the thickest portion, last 3.5-4” closest to the receiver, and the inside diameter of the handguard nut opening. The diameters are as follows:

RPR original factory barrel OD: 1.001”
RPR Gen 2 handguard nut ID: 1.015”
RPR prefit replacement barrel OD: 1.024”

Evident from the above measurements, the handguard nut easily slides over the factory barrel without interference. Unfortunately, it hangs up about 4” short of its intended location over the thicker diameter of the prefit barrel. Barrel is sourced from a very reputable and well known supplier but I would have expected an RPR prefit part to have fit directly without interference as supplied.

1. Anyone here run into this issue before?
2. Did I simply get an out of spec barrel?
3. Should I just have the inside diameter of the handguard nut opened up another .015” and save the hassle of removing barrel and perhaps having to send it back?

Thanks again for your suggestions!
I messaged the barrel nut inner diameter a little bit. My pva barrel was 1.25 outer diameter. I got a round rasp and took a tiny amount of material off. Hit the barrel nut with a lite coat of black spray paint and done. Gen2 handguard here.
 
I messaged the barrel nut inner diameter a little bit. My pva barrel was 1.25 outer diameter. I got a round rasp and took a tiny amount of material off. Hit the barrel nut with a lite coat of black spray paint and done. Gen2 handguard here.

Thanks Hardpan. Been thinking of doing that as well.

To confirm, you could initially not slide the handguard nut all the way to reach the threads... it hung up on the last few inches.
 
Anyone running a Luth-AR stock on their gun? I’m thinking of switching out mine and was wondering if anyone had any experience with one.
I have 3 of them, 1 on a 308 (AB Arms Mod-X chassis), 1 on a 223 bolt gun (MDT chassis) and 1 on a 223 AR-15. They are probably not as good as a Magpul PRS (take that with a grain of salt because I don't own a Magpul...just too expensive for my tastes), but they are OK.

The butt pad is a hard plastic so you probably wouldn't want to use it on anything with a stout recoil, as is. Its not been an issue for me because, as a relatively big guy, I use slip on butt pads on mine to extend the length of pull. However, for the same reason, I have had issues with comb height on the 308 that required a slight modification of the cheek piece so it would go higher in its adjustment range to compensate for a scope that is very tall.

The bottom of the Luth stock makes a decent bag rider, so I don't feel any modifications are required there.

I can't speak to the use of the Luth on a RPR, since I have 2 RPRs and am actually quite happy with the Ruger stock they came with, although I did have to fabricate a bag rider for the bottom of each of them.

Finally, since the Luth AR stock is relatively inexpensive, if you need a change, it might be worthwhile to get one and try it out.
 
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Man Oh Man, I wish I loved my RPR like you guys. I don't like the trigger but it shoots good. Just don't have the passion, impressed what you guys have done with your RPR's. My Buddy loves his out to 1,360 all day long. I did put a PRS stock online too.

PB
 
Man Oh Man, I wish I loved my RPR like you guys. I don't like the trigger but it shoots good. Just don't have the passion, impressed what you guys have done with your RPR's. My Buddy loves his out to 1,360 all day long. I did put a PRS stock online too.

PB
Try the timney 2 stage. I like 2 stage triggers so it was a no brainer but it is night and day from the factory one. It breaks clean and the pull weight is just right imo
 
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My trigger is actually pretty nice. I haven’t put a gauge on it but it breaks clean and feels light enough. I just got this rifle a week ago so I’m still getting use to it. I’m going to hold off replacing the stock until I shoot it a little more. The LOP kept coming loose but I really tightened up the cam lever and that seemed to work. I’ve been doing a little barrel break in and load work at the same time. Groups are not terrible, hopefully they will shrink some with a little more work. Here’s the best 100 yd. group so far.
 

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My trigger is actually pretty nice. I haven’t put a gauge on it but it breaks clean and feels light enough. I just got this rifle a week ago so I’m still getting use to it. I’m going to hold off replacing the stock until I shoot it a little more. The LOP kept coming loose but I really tightened up the cam lever and that seemed to work. I’ve been doing a little barrel break in and load work at the same time. Groups are not terrible, hopefully they will shrink some with a little more work. Here’s the best 100 yd. group so far.
The groups will get a little better after break in. Try different cartridges to see what it likes. My factory barrel like 130’s. Others have liked 140 and heavier.
 
OK RPR peeps, I am stumped.

I have a RPR 6.5 CR gen 3. Put enough rounds down range that i am actualy out shooting the barrel even as a newer shooter. Prob close to 4500 rounds down range. Loss of velocity and and constancy.

So, I decided to upgrade everything
Seekins 15 handguard and red safety selector, timney trigger, arca rail with ckyed bipod, new Tract Optics 4.5 -30×56 scope, anarchy outdoors bolt shroud, bolt tool, firing pin, bolt handle and bolt knob, 30 MOA rail, MDT skelton carbine stock, and mag well release extender. Last but not least, Proof Research 6.5 CR carbon fiber prefit barrel capped of lil basterd tunable muzzle break (cause i live in NJ and can't own a can)

Have watched numerous how to videos and read as many posts on what tools and parts are needed.

Have barrel vice, anarchy outdoors action wrench, breaker bar, magpul armorours tool, LMI barrel not torque tool, etc.

Anyways, rifle stripped as as expected and left with action on factory barrel.

I think Rugar must use a beast to torque the barrel nut on it has moved about 2 turns while starting light and added breaker bar to to magpul tool and also tried LHI tool. MOVED ABOUT 2 TURNS. Tried heating the nut and no joy. Tried even using the reverse method with the anarachy outdoors action rod and rotating the barrel. NOTHING!

Any other suggestions for moving a seized barrel nut. I am 255 lbs and litterly had worked up to my full weight on the end of the breaker bar on both barrel nut tools. Desperate and frustrated! Suggests greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Had the same issue trying to remove my stock barrel also. It was a BEAST! to take off. Our solution is to have the breaker bar on and then slide a piece of steel pipe (about 30" or so) over it and then lean into it. When it popped loose we were afraid we have broken it, but it was just the 'seal' of the nut finally giving way. No harm no foul. Must have torqued it at the factory at 60+ lbs.!

BTW, I'm 5'11" and my friend is 6'3" 235lbs and he couldn't budge it at first either. The pipe was the definitive factor
 
what LOP is everyone getting with the PRS? Everywhere I look says the shortest you can go with it on the RPR is 15" which is a lot longer than any rifle I own..
Can't tell you off hand. Had it on for 2+ years. Perfect fit from inside elbow to the grip/trigger for me. Best part is that one can adjust the lift and length while your cheek is still on the riser. You cannot do that with a standard RPR stock. Too many flips and screws and tension adjustments.
 
Yes, Ruger...sorry ... have been reading about RPR here in hopes of purchasing soon... I am wanting to learn more about distance shooting and understand the ruger would be a good entry level rifle...someone suggested the thompson LRR so was asking for pros & cons... if I am in the wrong area please excuse...thanks
 
Yes, Ruger...sorry ... have been reading about RPR here in hopes of purchasing soon... I am wanting to learn more about distance shooting and understand the ruger would be a good entry level rifle...someone suggested the thompson LRR so was asking for pros & cons... if I am in the wrong area please excuse...thanks

No worries! Along with the RPR you might want to have a look at the Tikka T3, Bergara, and Howa offerings. Lots to read about each of them in other threads in this very forum. Read along having a rifle budget in mind and don’t forget To also put aside the extra $$$ for a decent scope. If it were me, I’d plan on spending similar $$$ amounts for rifle and scope.

Good luck in finding your perfect rifle and enjoy the journey.