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Can you simply swap out the Gen 2 hand guard and replace it with a Gen 3 version? Without having to remove the barrel nut, etc.?
I have never owned a bolt gun before and am interested in getting my first one. Been looking at a RPR in 6.5 creedmore to do basically bench shooting at my local range that goes out to 300 Yards. I do have some areas that I can shoot out to a mile. Just wandering if this is going to be more Gun than I really need? If so what would you suggest for a first bolt gun? Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
Not a direct comparison but my 6mm CR also shoots 1/2MOA or better with factory ammo. It's so easy it's feels like cheating. The first group I ever fired through the gun after a "one round zero" fell into approximately 3/8th inch at 100 yards. The next distance was 265 yards, the longest we can get at this particular property. First group went into .750, last group went into 1.2. I can't see adding $4k to the price doing any better.Just to add to this my RPR routinely shoots .5 or better with FGMM and always better with Handloads. It’s a great rifle.
I love how folks call the RPR an "entry" level rifle. What's the difference between a $1k rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA groups and a $5k rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA groups other than $4k?
I love how folks call the RPR an "entry" level rifle. What's the difference between a $1k rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA groups and a $5k rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA groups other than $4k?
Well 1300 rounds down the factory barrel. The throat has grown to a point where I can't load in a mag and still be .020 off of the lands. The rifle still shoots sub-half moa though so I'm still staying with the factory 6.5CM barrel. How much life should I expect from this barrel....2,000, 2,500.... what say ye?
Ragged holes at 100 give you these at 250....I would say it's only going to be too much gun if you want to tote it around hunting, of if you're not super interested in accuracy. To my mind, these are the two main applications of bolt action rifles.
If you are interested in accuracy, then the RPR is a *great* entry-level rifle for that. As stated above, I just got one too (all other rifles have been semi autos)
I chose 6.5 due to better ballistics further out compared to 308 and also the tons of info available info on the internets about reloading (almost as much as 308)
I am overjoyed with my purchase and have been having a blast going to the range and shooting groups that are one ragged hole!
Enjoy
Getting vertical correction is a small part of the accomplishment. Bucking wind with a .308 vs 6.5 requires twice the skill..308 with 24" barrel?? My .308 with 20" shoots just fine and dandy at 1000
Having owned a couple of ~$4k+ rifles and owned/shot more than 1 RPR, I'd call it "entry level" in terms of fit/finish, but certainly not in terms of accuracy in the examples I've seen.
Question for the 308 gurus; the original model number for the Gen 2 308 rifles was 18004. Today I ordered a 18014 model from Sportsman Outdoors. Both models are claiming that they are the Gen 2 models with the keymod handguard. I can find no mention from Ruger on the 18014 model, yet a number of businesses were selling it, with Sportsman Outdoors Supercenter still having limited inventory. Visually, the images depict the 18014 model as having the Ruger marked magazine, instead of the pmag. I plan to email Ruger shortly for the lowdown, but wanted to reach out to the group first.
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I am in the same boat, there is nothing wrong with the RPR and it certainly isn't holding my performance back.I agree, that their's just a huge difference when comparing the fit & finish. I've not owned any high end rifles (like anything close to $4k+), but I've fire a couple and the one big thing that stands out is the action and how nicely the bolt opens and closes without disturbing your firing position . . . unlike the stiff bolt action of an RPR. Put a high end or custom barrel on an RPR and it does surprisingly well.
My RPR shoots just as good as my custom rig that has a Bartlien barrel. Sure the RPR barrel plus the fit and finish isn’t perfect but after some time wearing it in and adding your personal touches I can’t see that rifle holding me back. Sure the bolt is clunky but put 3-4K rounds and hours of dry fire practice and it will smooth out.I am in the same boat, there is nothing wrong with the RPR and it certainly isn't holding my performance back.
There are times that I think my RPR is just fine and there is no reason to ever really upgrade, but then I shoot someone else's custom rifle and I can't help but dream about having one for awhile after that; a custom is a "nice to have" not a necessity.
When I have those times I do up what it would cost me to build my custom rifle in Excel. I look at the total cost. I compare that to what I spent on my RPR and think about how well it shoots.There are times that I think my RPR is just fine and there is no reason to ever really upgrade, but then I shoot someone else's custom rifle and I can't help but dream about having one for awhile after that; a custom is a "nice to have" not a necessity.
The cost difference will buy a lot of ammo.When I have those times I do up what it would cost me to build my custom rifle in Excel. I look at the total cost. I compare that to what I spent on my RPR and think about how well it shoots.
That's some might fine shootin no matter what type of rifle it came out of. Good job.I have about 2700 dumped into an RPR. Everything has upgraded except the mag release. The four major upgrade which produced the most output have been the 26" SS LRI barrel for 140 Berger, Timney 2 stage #650ST, VTAB buttpad mod and the round bolt knob. This rifle has produced 4 of my personal best groups. 2.53", 2.96", 3.11" and 3.76" at 1000 yards. The planets aligned! This barrel has 1600 rounds logged. Next barrel will not be for the Berger HB 140. $54/100 is too steep for me. I'll get the 140 ELD throat instead.
Question for the 308 gurus; the original model number for the Gen 2 308 rifles was 18004. Today I ordered a 18014 model from Sportsman Outdoors. Both models are claiming that they are the Gen 2 models with the keymod handguard. I can find no mention from Ruger on the 18014 model, yet a number of businesses were selling it, with Sportsman Outdoors Supercenter still having limited inventory. Visually, the images depict the 18014 model as having the Ruger marked magazine, instead of the pmag. I plan to email Ruger shortly for the lowdown, but wanted to reach out to the group first.
Really nice shooting!! I just put a PVA barrel on and am waiting for the weather to be better. Can’t wait to see what it does at 1000 yards with prime.I have about 2700 dumped into an RPR. Everything has upgraded except the mag release. The four major upgrade which produced the most output have been the 26" SS LRI barrel for 140 Berger, Timney 2 stage #650ST, VTAB buttpad mod and the round bolt knob. This rifle has produced 4 of my personal best groups. 2.53", 2.96", 3.11" and 3.76" at 1000 yards. The planets aligned! This barrel has 1600 rounds logged. Next barrel will not be for the Berger HB 140. $54/100 is too steep for me. I'll get the 140 ELD throat instead.
So I called Ruger, and they have no data on the 18014 model, stating that this might have been an instore exclusive for some businesses. I did indeed order one from the Sportsman Outdoor business, as they are showing in stock (and I wanted a NEW Gen2). I have an email into them now to see what they define the 18014 is...
have you tried taking it off yet?Load development for 6mm creedmoor. 42.1 and 41.8 gr H4350 behind berger hybrid 105 gr bullets at 100 yds. Less than 100 rounds in, but I've found my favorite load. The factory RPR barrel doesn't suck though it is a bit on the slow side.
Beautiful!My Gen2 RPR .308 with a couple accessories for an extra expense just under $500. Replaced the factory barrel after 3700 rounds with a Krieger (it was a birthday gift that prompted the change).
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If you can score a gen 1 cheaper or used you could get a Midwest Industries 18”Prefer the look and feel of the 2nd Gen handguards.
If you can score a gen 1 cheaper or used you could get a Midwest Industries 18”
Thanks for the info. That’s good stuff.Just a heads up, a Wheeler AR vise will hold the reciever while doing a barrel change with no marks to upper. Best $23 bucks I ever spent. Works on RPR and all my AR's
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I recently purchased a RPR in 6.5 PRC and love it. I don’t have any pictures but mine shoots just as good as yours does. There is very little recoil and it’s a tac driver.Just saying hi from Jacksonville, FL... Been waiting for my lgs to get RPRs in stock for almost a year while watching other shops get them. I've been patient since he has always taken care of us and it enabled me to stall the inevitable spend lol. During my wait and asking about the RPR so much it piqued 2 of my shooting buddy's interest and they have also put in orders for RPRs so now we have 2 in our group and one more on the way lol. Without further ado onto the pics
Gen 2 6.5 CM
Burris XTR II 8-40 X 50
Burris High (1.5") XTR Signature Rings
Seekins Red Ambi Selector
Magpul MOE +Grip
Harris Swivel 6-9 bipod with KMW Pod-Loc
Here's a couple pics of some of my better groups from 100yards. These were shot with Hornady super performance 129gr factory loads. I've got a lot to learn and bad habits to break but I am really looking forward to getting more time behind this baby.
First shot was the one that was way off so I grabbed a measurement w/o it
measuring the group including the one I yanked
LOVING IT!