Nice video Frank. How does it compare to the original Terrapin as far as pure ranging ability?
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Nice video Frank. How does it compare to the original Terrapin as far as pure ranging ability?
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I was going to get a Terrapin X but the more I looked into it the more it seems it is really a Leica with different software. I would rather pay $1000 more and have a real rangefinder like the real vectronix. Ranging a deer at 2000 plus yards is child's play for the real McCoy. I bet this Terrapin X isn't going to do that. Leica still make great rangefinders but they are no Vectronix .Personally I think Vectronix is making a mistake here unless it ranges at least as good as the original terrapin and it doesn't sound like it is even in the same league when it comes to ranging. First, an etched reticle is a must for ranging distant targets.Big fat circles or squares are practically useless trying to range coyotes at 1000 yards. This is why I bought Vectronix in the first place.They also under promised and over delivered big time which is what I loved about my vectronix. They claimed 3000 meters for the model I had and it would do over 6000 meters with ease. Maybe I am wrong but I am very skeptical at this point.
Garmin Foretrex 701.WTF is dat thang on Lowlight's left wrist in the vidya? Looks like a deck of porno cards....
Unless I read it wrong, according to Frank's initial review it seems to be on par with the original Terrapin as far as ranging capability. Other than not having an etched reticle how is it not "a real vectronix"? I was skeptical until I read Frank's review which points to the fact that it ranges as well as the old Terrapin and has new features such as bluetooth as well as more magnification than the original. No Leica that I am aware of ranges anywhere to close to the original Terrapin.
Garmin Foretrex 701.
Thanks, I learn something new here every day...
Was anybody else under the assumption that this new TerrapinX had ballistic software built into it and was a self-contained unit like the Sig Kilo2400 or the G7 and could provide a firing solution without the need of a Kestrel being connected to it? I am not knocking it I just didn’t realize it wasn’t. Frank just schooled me on it via YouTube.
I have been trying it will connect to Bike stuff, Heartbeat monitor, but I cannot find a way to connect the Terrapin X at least nothing is obviously showing up that I can connect it.
I am in the "Connect" dialog and been trying most of the morning, nothing
I may write them, but so far, no
Was anybody else under the assumption that this new TerrapinX had ballistic software built into it and was a self-contained unit like the Sig Kilo2400 or the G7 and could provide a firing solution without the need of a Kestrel being connected to it? I am not knocking it I just didn’t realize it wasn’t. Frank just schooled me on it via YouTube.
Yea I hear what you’re saying that’s how I feel about the Revic scope, but I do like the 2400 being able to instantly give me a firing solution in real time without having to go to my Kestrel and then manually input the range. Sometimes seconds do count when your shooting a (insert trophy game animal here) and not a static target that is going to give you all the time you want. For me I personally don’t need a LRF that will range to the moon and back.As of today's state of ballistic technology and tech price points....I personally would rather have the two functions of solver and laser in two separate devices.
The tech moves too quickly for both, you find yourself with an obsolete laser/solver before it's time, due to the design/function compromises that are made to integrate both functions in one device.
Ask yourself....Where will laser/ballistic solver tech likely be in 5 years?
Yea I hear what you’re saying that’s how I feel about the Revic scope, but I do like the 2400 being able to instantly give me a firing solution in real time without having to go to my Kestrel and then manually input the range. Sometimes seconds do count when your shooting a (insert trophy game animal here) and not a static target that is going to give you all the time you want. For me I personally don’t need a LRF that will range to the moon and back.
It's made in the Leica factory using (I don't know how many) Leica parts and built to Safran's specs. That's what the article about it said that I read. Said that's how the cost is kept down. Also says they retained their design and quality. I'm guessing they saw their factory and what they had available regarding parts and went from there. I bet teaming up was profitable for both of them. If it makes a quality, no-shit 3000y LRF for $1800 then hey, cool, because usually cost per meter is $1 on long range models.
Where does it go for repair though, does it go to Leica or Safran/Vectronix?
Guys - all repairs etc will come directly to us -- Terp-X WARRANTY
Thanks Jason @jb1000br
Here's a tougher question, not meant to be argumentative, but it needs asking, because EuroOptic will be in the middle of it all.
For example sake, say the BT module no longer connects to a Kestrel or an app. It's within the 36 month period, and I've registered via the app.
I send you my faulty device...now what happens?
Are there "spares"? Does it cross the pond to get repaired? Is the customer's faulty device swapped for a functional one? What should the customers expectation be in terms of timing for turnaround/repair in the above scenario?
Thank you in advance for your response.
I don't think he meant the Terrapin-X necessarily meets the criteria for use by the military, but rather that most resources when it comes to repairing/fixing would be devoted to military units first.Popcorn in hand. Suspect answer may differ from what I was told when pre-ordering. Also Frank said we might be behind military . I am surprised to see that this unit meets criteria for use by the Military? i suspect that they will continue to get the premium models.
Damn Finns. They already have Nokia. Now they have they have the Vectronix X before us!Finnaccuracy guys did some practical sized target testing and it seems Terrapin-X meets the expectations
https://finnaccuracy.com/blogs/fa-news/terrapinx-premiere-performance-review
Well it’s half the price of the original sooooo there is that. So far it seems to meet expectations. Time will tell but I’ll wait a year and see what issues pop up before jumping in the bandwagon.Damn Finns. They already have Nokia. Now they have they have the Vectronix X before us!
That seems like respectable performance. I'm certainly not poo-poo'ing the VX, but does anyone feel like that write-up shows it not quite meeting the original Terrapin's performance? If so, hopefully the field conditions played a role. Or am I just inflated the original to mythical status?
It's roughly the same price. You could usually pick up the original for around $1800; $2k if you didn't shop around.Well it’s half the price of the original sooooo there is that. So far it seems to meet expectations. Time will tell but I’ll wait a year and see what issues pop up before jumping in the bandwagon.
I was thinking about the treelines, but I agree about the reflecitve targets. It's good, no doubt, but I feel like my older Terrapin could do a little better. Frank says the two are comparable, so that's encouraging. I'm sure the side-by-side tests will start to roll in once EuroOptic starts shipping.Finn accuracy used small targets so preformance is still realy great.
Where do you see the same range advertised?Is it coincidence that the new Leica 2700 has the same advertised range as the X, and they admittedly use some amount of Leica internals?
Except for on the front page of their website. The 2000m limit is buried in the datasheet. Looking forward to the podcast to hear real world performance.The Terrapin X is NOT Advertised beyond 2000m
This is from the original Terrapin spec sheet:
Range capability 20 m to > 2400 m
(1.8 km on NATO target)
What's the size of a "NATO target"?
From the new Terrapin X spec sheet:
"Range Capability" 20m to 3,000m
"Specified Performance" 2,000m at 2.4m x 2.2m target... detection probability >90%
20" x 40" I believe for US
So "NATO E-Type Silhouette"
google says there are a shit ton of "NATO" standard targets