Savage FCP-k .308, rapid fire on steel @500M-video

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I wish I had editing software for PIP, but this will have to do. I put a camera downrange to video the hits on the ram sillouette. That part if the video is the last half.
I was really happy with the group considering the rate of fire, but kinda dumbfounded that I missed by so much on the last shot??? They are my own handloads, so maybe I just goofed up that round, or maybe I just jiggered it, lol!
175SMK's over 43.9 grains of varget, lapua virgin brass, fed primers, 2.815 COAL
Enjoy:
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Re: Savage FCP-k .308, rapid fire on steel @500M-video

You can be a lot quicker if you don't break your position to cycle the bolt with every shot. Try and practice maintaining cheek weld/sight picture whilst cycling the bolt, you'll be amazed at how quick you can get lead downrange.
 
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The gun is fairly new and it's all stock. A little more break-in and a larger bolt handle would make it easier to cycle the bolt faster I'm sure.
This was my first attempt at 'rapid fire' with a bolt gun so I appreciate the feedback, rath. What is considered a fast rate of fire at these ranges with a bolt gun? Every 3 seconds? less?
Funny thing about the savage action, is it cocks the firing pin on the bolt lift cycle, which makes it take a little more elbow grease than I was used to with my remmy...
 
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I have another video with a camera on me and another camera on the target, including clays at 550 yards, but I wanna wait until I get the Pinnacle studio program to do picture-in-picture.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can be a lot quicker if you don't break your position to cycle the bolt with every shot. Try and practice maintaining cheek weld/sight picture whilst cycling the bolt, you'll be amazed at how quick you can get lead downrange. </div></div>

Neat vid, but I was going to mention this too. You actually kind of jerk your head up right after each shot.

Neat set up you have there, nice shooting-

Shawn
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bodywerks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny thing about the savage action, is it cocks the firing pin on the bolt lift cycle, which makes it take a little more elbow grease than I was used to with my remmy... </div></div>

That's pretty common with most bolt actions, including the remington 700's. One of the few that cocks on close is the enfield.

Shawn
 
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If you're built like me, most rifles don't have enough LOP built in to permit a constant cheek weld while cycling the bolt.

One of the things I have found is that as long as scope eye relief is nominally correct, LOP is less critical. By augmenting the LOP, I can regain the ability to maintain a constant cheek weld.

Maybe you can cobble up something to try that idea temporarily.

When I can't remove a butt pad and insert spacers, I find that a slip-on Limbsaver pad adds up to one inch, and cutout pieces of mouse pad can be placed under the pad to extend it some more. Just be careful about eye relief and recoil. A more flexible recoil pad allows the scope's eyepiece bell to travel further rearward under recoil.

Greg
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're built like me, most rifles don't have enough LOP built in to permit a constant cheek weld while cycling the bolt.

One of the things I have found is that as long as scope eye relief is nominally correct, LOP is less critical. By augmenting the LOP, I can regain the ability to maintain a constant cheek weld.

Maybe you can cobble up something to try that idea temporarily.

When I can't remove a butt pad and insert spacers, I find that a slip-on Limbsaver pad adds up to one inch, and cutout pieces of mouse pad can be placed under the pad to extend it some more. Just be careful about eye relief and recoil. A more flexible recoil pad allows the scope's eyepiece bell to travel further rearward under recoil.

Greg </div></div>

Very good advice re cheek weld and LoP, I am 6'3" and this is a constant issue with new rifles until I purchased a LaRue LT-104 which gives me extra eye relief (and I can switch my NF from rifle to rifle).
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: srv656s</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can be a lot quicker if you don't break your position to cycle the bolt with every shot. Try and practice maintaining cheek weld/sight picture whilst cycling the bolt, you'll be amazed at how quick you can get lead downrange. </div></div>

Neat vid, but I was going to mention this too. You actually kind of jerk your head up right after each shot.

Neat set up you have there, nice shooting-

Shawn </div></div>
I'll have to pay attention to that next time. In the video, it looks to me like that is just the recoil of the rifle taking my cheek with it. Then I am lifting my head up and moving back to get a better action on the bolt handle. You'll also notice in the vid that I don't have a sandbag in the rear - that might have helped with faster bolt cycling, no? I think the LOP is definitely not ideal for rapid-fire off the bench, but I just shot a 600yd prone competition today and I can easily maintain cheek weld when prone and cycle the bolt fairly easy. I'm 6', so maybe an extra inch on the butt wouldn't hurt.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fake! </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bodywerks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny thing about the savage action, is it cocks the firing pin on the bolt lift cycle, which makes it take a little more elbow grease than I was used to with my remmy... </div></div>

Nah, that's just a rifle that needs its parts to 'machine their own clearance.'
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One way to do that is to just sit there and work the bolt as you watch a program on TV or listen to one on the radio. Or, you could lap the bolt and various parts. My older 110 is super-smooth just from being older and more worked/worn(?). My newer 10 is not terrible, but it's definitely a lot newer and with a lot fewer rounds through it. I lapped a CZ's bolt lugs with Remington 40x bore cleaner (contains diatomaceous earth), and it's now super-smooth in terms of lock-up. Haven't yet seen a need to apply regular lapping compound to a bolt, though it'd work and work much faster than 40X.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bodywerks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I'll have to pay attention to that next time. In the video, it looks to me like that is just the recoil of the rifle taking my cheek with it. Then I am lifting my head up and moving back to get a better action on the bolt handle. You'll also notice in the vid that I don't have a sandbag in the rear - that might have helped with faster bolt cycling, no? I think the LOP is definitely not ideal for rapid-fire off the bench, but I just shot a 600yd prone competition today and I can easily maintain cheek weld when prone and cycle the bolt fairly easy. I'm 6', so maybe an extra inch on the butt wouldn't hurt. </div></div>

It's something to pay attention to. Follow through is important, and I try to stay relaxed through the trigger squeeze and recoil.

Either way, it was pretty good shooting so it probably isn't affecting your shooting much if any. However, if your natural inclination is to come off the scope after each shot it may become part of your muscle memory and could ruin some shots.
 
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My natural tendancy is to stay welded. I just had to lift my head to get better leverage on the bolt. In this video, at about 2:20, are some shots with my ex filming me...I stay pretty welded:
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