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Rifle Scopes Schmidt and Bender: is it time to cut my losses
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OP, I had a partially similar experience with one of my 5-25 s&b scopes. After buying scope new, using it for a couple years on a prs gun, I noticed tiny specks of whatever start appearing on the reticle. I took pictures when I first noticed it, then again after it got noticeably worse. Emailed and spoke to CS about it. I paid $60ish to ship scope back for repair. Tracking indicated they received the scope on a tues. Two weeks later I called to get an update on progress. I got pretty much same explanation, they had used a grease from another company and that had started to degrade or breakdown causing the specks to appear. Totally understand, shit happens. They repaired it, did an inspection on the rest of the scope and verified all was good. About 10 days later (total time they had the scope was 23 days) I received a shipping notification saying it was on its way back to me.
After recieving scope, I inspected it thoroughly for any issues. Found one. Same issue with parallax being gritty, which I never had before. Called CS and they sent an overnight shipping label to return the scope. Boxed up and out next day. Scope was again delivered to them, and within 48 hours of delivery I received notification saying they shipped it back overnight. I received the scope next day, and again inspected it. Everything was right this time, no specks, no gritty knobs, no issues. About 4 months go by before I pulled that rifle out.
We were going on a trip to Utah and had that scope on one of my rifles that went through checked baggage. Upon arrival in SLC, while in my hotel room, I noticed there were again visible particles inside the scope. I was pissed to say the least. So I contacted CS for the third time. Provided pics of the new particles I had seen, and was promptly given another overnight shipping label, but since I was on the road and out of state I had it sent to the place we were going to be staying, an Airbnb. I was lucky enough to borrow a scope from my buddy, shout out to #DirtyDerek, for a few days until I received mine back. Instead of getting my original scope back, I received a nib warranty replacement. Which was totally fine with me. To be honest, I wouldn’t have the confidence in my original scope like I did before all this mess started. So in closing, every company that makes a product, no matter the cost or QC process, inevitably produces a lemon every once in a while. It’s just how do they make it right with the customer. Imo S&B did right by me, and I am grateful to have a scope I can trust again. Did I pay for that confidence, sure, but I received a product that I feel is comparable to the amount of money I shelled out.
Piece of mind and not having to question your gear is why I don’t shoot a rem700 with an IOR optic.
I shoot AI and Schmidt & Spender.
After recieving scope, I inspected it thoroughly for any issues. Found one. Same issue with parallax being gritty, which I never had before. Called CS and they sent an overnight shipping label to return the scope. Boxed up and out next day. Scope was again delivered to them, and within 48 hours of delivery I received notification saying they shipped it back overnight. I received the scope next day, and again inspected it. Everything was right this time, no specks, no gritty knobs, no issues. About 4 months go by before I pulled that rifle out.
We were going on a trip to Utah and had that scope on one of my rifles that went through checked baggage. Upon arrival in SLC, while in my hotel room, I noticed there were again visible particles inside the scope. I was pissed to say the least. So I contacted CS for the third time. Provided pics of the new particles I had seen, and was promptly given another overnight shipping label, but since I was on the road and out of state I had it sent to the place we were going to be staying, an Airbnb. I was lucky enough to borrow a scope from my buddy, shout out to #DirtyDerek, for a few days until I received mine back. Instead of getting my original scope back, I received a nib warranty replacement. Which was totally fine with me. To be honest, I wouldn’t have the confidence in my original scope like I did before all this mess started. So in closing, every company that makes a product, no matter the cost or QC process, inevitably produces a lemon every once in a while. It’s just how do they make it right with the customer. Imo S&B did right by me, and I am grateful to have a scope I can trust again. Did I pay for that confidence, sure, but I received a product that I feel is comparable to the amount of money I shelled out.
Piece of mind and not having to question your gear is why I don’t shoot a rem700 with an IOR optic.
I shoot AI and Schmidt & Spender.
Well said, I got my scope back two days ago. The same tech who put the wrong reticle in it stripped out some screws in the parallax. They replaced the tube and so far so good. I do love the glass, it’s a good scope hoping I’m done with the issues.
Sounds like S&B has a tech or two that needs to be re-trained or evaluated for termination.
Schmidt-Bender mentioned he wouldn’t be working on scopes anymore
My S&B 5-25 PM2 has been bulletproof. Even managed to drop the rifle off a bench in the the drag bag the other day and smash the scope cap with no damage to the eyepiece. It still put the first cold bore round through the V bull, the zero didn't move. They are the gold standard for a reason. Anything mechanical can break, if they sort it and the customer service is good then stick with it.
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Definitely do this suggestion. Please get it fixed before selling it so you can maximize your return instead of taking a bigger loss. An alternative option is sell it as is, but let the new owner know of its prior and current issues. I’m sorry to hear this. I’ve always like Schmidt & bender PmII’s. I hope it works out good for you.
I got you so mad I have you crying working all day searching for fucking idiots posts like yours about nf and Schmidt when like I’ve said for the last day to your dumb ass 80% or more people have easily given the better glass to Schmidt over nf, so again you can continue to cry because you were too broke and had to go nf over a Schmidt
Rather than resurrecting old threads, how about you two take this argument private?
Necromancer achievement unlocked.I got you so mad I have you crying working all day searching for fucking idiots posts like yours about nf and Schmidt when like I’ve said for the last day to your dumb ass 80% or more people have easily given the better glass to Schmidt over nf, so again you can continue to cry because you were too broke and had to go nf over a Schmidt
Because he is so butthurt after embarrassing himself in another thread for calling a scope like Schmidt “trash” he had to search for one person on the the hide who agreed with him. And it’s embarrassing he had to find one post on an old thread just to tag me and talk shit, and im at fault for responding aswell, but I can’t help but to publicly roast certain idiots on this site who says something like “Schmidt glass it trash”
but regardless my apologies
Guys, don't bother. The troll is from, like, Canada. He has some kind of delusion of global relevance...
Not worth it.
Sirhr
Not worth it.
Sirhr
Oh hey.. I was wondering when this clown (who is one of my biggest fans) would resurface and say the typical “your from Canada, I’m from Merica yeeeehaww” comment he always uses
Ive missed you bro how’ve you been? How’s your cousin, you guys got any more kids?
you go worry about them proper pronouns your country is being forced to use
and I’ll worry about mine.
Lol says the guy with Castro’s gay son in charge
snow Mexicans strike again
snow Mexicans strike again
Notice how you are the only one taking like you are in grade school?
you don’t even have any firearms why are you here ?
I have more expansive firearms and scopes than you could ever dream of
oh but I forgot , you have a “NniGhTFoWwRcE”I got more money in 6 scopes that you do your whole collection and your car
I should walk away.I have more expansive firearms and scopes than you could ever dream of
I got more money in 6 scopes that you do your whole collection and your car
but
Lol one day when you grow up you will realize (1) of those items in the circle is worth more than 4 of your tangent theta.
uncultured swine.
I’m sorry, we’re you supposed to be posting something impressive??? I’ll wait if you want to try again.
I’ll raise you 4 TT gen 3’s, 1 Hendsoldt 3.5-261 Z comp 5-27, 2 pm2 3-27, axmc, ax308, cadex kraken, Victrix, desert tech a2, 2 custom comp rifles, 3 nighthawk 1911’s.
oh and that’s not to mention the less important stuff, like your favourite nightforce
1 NF Beast, 1 atacr
And a minox, a couple of terrapins.
So I’m sorry you were saying…?
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I’ve sat behind the S&B and NF ATACR. Honestly I can’t understand what these Sally’s are arguing about. The only difference I noticed was a slightly warmer feel to the S&B and a slightly “cooler” blueish tint to the NF. Other than that the turret IMHO were better on the NF
Now stop the dick measuring contest before you guys get every thread comparing the scopes deleted
They’re both great scopes
They both do the job
Everyone’s eyes are different
Nobody cares what you think
Or how much your shits worth
Now stop the dick measuring contest before you guys get every thread comparing the scopes deleted
They’re both great scopes
They both do the job
Everyone’s eyes are different
Nobody cares what you think
Or how much your shits worth
@Huskydriver im glad I mean so much to you in your life and I’m so much in your head you dick ride any hillbilly that fails at trying to roast me
I am to you what Trump is to liberals, rent free in your head. I love it
So angry all the time lol....
Yes they are great, I said NF is a phenomal world class scope and reliable in the original thread before the loser ran away in embarrassment. He is the one that was being a complete tool and said Schmidt and bender is “trash” and that is 100% a clown thing to say, so he got roasted and ran away to this post where he tagged me. Everyone pretty much agreed with me in that other thread before he ran. But there are like 4-6 clowns on this site who think they are cool and follow me around because they got russets for being as dumb as this guy saying “Schmidt is trash”, so they got mad because I’m Canadian so they became huge fans of mine and follow me around and start shit like the little girls club they are
And I love it
Oh hey.. I was wondering when this clown (who is one of my biggest fans) would resurface and say the typical “your from Canada, I’m from Merica yeeeehaww” comment he always uses
Ive missed you bro how’ve you been? How’s your cousin, you guys got any more kids?
you go worry about them proper pronouns your country is being forced to use
You should worry more about your spelling and punctuation.
Ragging on someone and looking like an illiterate at the same time isn't a good look there Dudley Dunwrong.
Kid you literally follow me around starting shit with me even though the other person I’m arguing with is clearly at fault
just stop and I’ll spare you more roasting sessions.if you think you are so great and a respectable member of this community, how the fuck would you think for one second that some idiot saying “Schmidt and bender glass is trash” is fucking even remotely okay and not just some troll stupid ignorant bullshit? When the conversation between everyone was civil and I even said how great nightforce was. But here comes that idiot with “s&b is trash”
Oh look I responded with something civil explaining what happened and another dumb American is to stupid and immature to follow so you post a Immature meme you spent all day making
This is why you have no friends
I just want to say I’m sorry, I read your profile and saw you were from FL, I didn’t mean to make fun of a handicap.
I spent no time making thisOh look I responded with something civil explaining what happened and another dumb American is to stupid and immature to follow so you post a Immature meme you spent all day making
This is why you have no friends
I have no friends
You can be my friend
Just don’t look me in the eyes
Good god, will you please shut the fuck up.Yes they are great, I said NF is a phenomal world class scope and reliable in the original thread before the loser ran away in embarrassment. He is the one that was being a complete tool and said Schmidt and bender is “trash” and that is 100% a clown thing to say, so he got roasted and ran away to this post where he tagged me. Everyone pretty much agreed with me in that other thread before he ran. But there are like 4-6 clowns on this site who think they are cool and follow me around because they got russets for being as dumb as this guy saying “Schmidt is trash”, so they got mad because I’m Canadian so they became huge fans of mine and follow me around and start shit like the little girls club they are
And I love it
Can’t believe you guys are Dick measuring by how much $$ you have in optics.
If in rereading this crap, you aren’t embarrassed by sounding like a third grader in the school yard, then you are an idiot.
have some fucking pride and dignity and STFU!
I get to be the little spoon! Burt always calls me daddy! So you’ll have to top that!So does that mean you want to cuddle with me at night?
I’ll line my headboard with ZCO and TT
Your opinion means nothing to me after reading my story as to why all this has happened and that other idiot spewing complete garbage in another thread, and then coming into this thread and tagging me, and you telling me to stfu
with all these kindergarten memes and the typical goof coming in here bringing up countries dude blow me, I have lots of pride sitting here fighting off and roasting the same 5 girls who follow me around starting shit, even though I’m 100% in the right. And the rare idiot who tries to join in because we all know why (cause im candian)
Like I always say it’s okay, I fucking love it
@deersniper created a thread so you two vaginas don’t get all the others erasedYour opinion means nothing to me after reading my story as to why all this has happened and that other idiot spewing complete garbage in another thread, and then coming into this thread and tagging me, and you telling me to stfu
dude blow me, I have lots of pride sitting here fighting off and roasting the same 5 girls who follow me around starting shit, even though I’m 100% in the right. And the rare idiot who tries to join in because we all know why (cause im candian)
Like I always say it’s okay, I fucking love it
Comment there. It’ll likely be deleted and result in some bans. But until then we’re all in for the sport
