Rifle Scopes Scope adjustment

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    I shoot at a 3/8 dot at 100 yards. The scope is mil mil. The problem is I am hitting at the right side of the dot one click puts me on the other side. Any tricks to get center dot? The mount is a Badger one piece.
     
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    Nope the scope is performing perfectly and the adjustment is correct. Just happens to be right in between two of the clicks. No adjustment can be made. Talked to Kahles they were very helpful.
     
    I see this turning into a MOA vs MIL debate in 3.....2......1 HA HA
    I was just about to say that! "well this wouldnt be an issue with the finer moa adjustment" LOL

    Just put it on whichever side of the dot the wind is blowing from. I doubt youll ever notice the difference again until you look for it. Your self professed .500 moa groups will still be large enough to cover the entire dot.
     
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    I was just about to say that! "well this wouldnt be an issue with the finer moa adjustment" LOL

    Just put it on whichever side of the dot the wind is blowing from. I doubt youll ever notice the difference again until you look for it. Your self professed .500 moa groups will still be large enough to cover the entire dot.

    That's what I was thinking. 2-half inch groups, 3/8" apart on center would overlap and look like one big group.
     
    Sounds like you need more work on calling wind.

    Wait for a steady 5-8 mph right to left and let it go.

    This is just showing a weakness in your skill set.

    Its all on you, dont blame the scope.

    :)
     
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    Im sure if you took it out of the rings and put it back and rezeroed it might shift a bit to better align maybe. It also might not. And it also might shift just enough to where you just moved an entire click over gaining you nothing. Or get a new scope with finer clicks or the vortex clickless zero if its that big of an issue to you.
     
    If your projectiles are landing to one side or the other when you hold center, simply hold the difference in the opposite direction for your shots. Keep notes of these offsets and you’ll be just fine. If you’re going to lose sleep over it, try another Kahles or ditch the Kahles you have for a Gen 2 Razor. Only tricks I know, best of luck to you.
     
    If your projectiles are landing to one side or the other when you hold center, simply hold the difference in the opposite direction for your shots. Keep notes of these offsets and you’ll be just fine.

    +1

    If you KNOW where it’s landing, just hold the difference. Low stress solution.

    There’s a reason BR guys use 1/8moa etc adjustment scopes, neurosis is a bitch lol.
     
    Holding left or right is a no brainer.

    He wants to put the reticle dead center and put a round dead center.

    Nope the scope is performing perfectly and the adjustment is correct. Just happens to be right in between two of the clicks. No adjustment can be made. Talked to Kahles they were very helpful.

    Like Spife said earlier, try reinstalling the scope rings. It may move things that .05 mil you're looking for.

    Btw, what did Kahles say?
     
    Holding left or right is a no brainer.

    He wants to put the reticle dead center and put a round dead center.



    Like Spife said earlier, try reinstalling the scope rings. It may move things that .05 mil you're looking for.

    Btw, what did Kahles say?

    I agree, slipped my mind earlier. I should have taken more time to collect my thoughts, good call.

    If you are running a self timing brake, messing around with that could cause enough shift to get you zeroed in the dead center. Try unscrewing it a full turn, tightening the nut back down, and see what that does.

    Moving things around or even changing head position can move it, maybe do like the above posters said and remove it from the rings entirely, and re set your eye relief from scratch and see what happens. Worst case is nothing moves. Hell, even removing the mounted scope and mounting it again could shift it enough.

    I didn’t see it mentioned, what rifle is it? If it’s a chassis, try moving around the butt or similar, just move everything around one at a time. Something will shift it enough to get you where you want to be. A slight change in body position can create a different impact point.
     
    Desert Tech and running Thunder beast ultra 9. Have removed barrel,TB, and reinstalled them. It just falls in between the clicks. I will have to live with it. Oh I can make it work not saying that at all. Just would like to have center sight center hit.
     
    Hold at four thirty on the edge of your dot. Or, loosen left screw on front ring. Tighten right screw. If you get your windage perfect, your POI will still be high. To change elevation you can shim either your rail or a scope ring. Take lots of ammo. This is kind'a a hunt and peck method.
     
    Guys. I think the @cro789 is smart enough to hold over a smidge and hit the damn center dot. You guys are correct but this isn’t what he is asking. He is just between adjustments on his scope and can’t get a “Perfect” zero which is really a non issue as at distance a human can’t hold that small difference and there are many many more variables that will cause error 100 fold or more over the 1/8” zero descrepency.

    Some of the guys that mentioned removing and remounting scope, rings, stock have good ideas to try and get your zero to shift a bit and line you up a little more closely. Props to them. Same for the guys suggesting a Razor scope. I dislike the zero process with those but you can get an absolute zero even though it’s not necessary and it doesn’t matter in real world shooting.

    OP one of the biggest factors in precision is knowing your equipment. The guys here are correct. Hold over slightly at 100 yards. You will hit the center of the dot.
     
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    Got that and thanks to everyone. Yes I know about holding off to hit center. And I also thought about taking everything apart. Which I did and it returned to zero or the same spot. Just looking for other ideas and trying to think outside of the box. I might have to go with the new Razor. Good company and warranty and also good scope to get what I am trying to achieve.
     
    Confirmed. Shipped today.
    And what did Kahles say?

    They said the same thing. The point of aim is right in the middle of two clicks. No way to make a fine adjustment. We also discussed spin drift at distances along with ballistic programs with sight offset that may help. Very nice people to talk with and they truly wanted to help and they did.
     
    I dont know what ammo your using factory or handloads but the slightest change in that will move your poi. If hand loading change 0.005 seating depth might move it enough to re zero in the center maybe + or - one 0.1gr of powder etc. Different bullet?

    You change a load you will not likely stay perfectly straddle of center.
     
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    They said the same thing. The point of aim is right in the middle of two clicks. No way to make a fine adjustment. We also discussed spin drift at distances along with ballistic programs with sight offset that may help. Very nice people to talk with and they truly wanted to help and they did.
     
    I shoot at a 3/8 dot at 100 yards. The scope is mil mil. The problem is I am hitting at the right side of the dot one click puts me on the other side. Any tricks to get center dot? The mount is a Badger one piece.

    Welcome to the plight of all those snipers who used to run MK4 LR/T M3 scopes lol.