Because it’s like asking us is a ford ranger a pice of shit. Nobody has to own one to know the answer. And yes I’ve owned Chinese crap just like it known as Leupold. Chinese shit is Chinese shit there’s nothing we can do about that. We are trying to help you. Swfa has the best track record of all cheaper optics.
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Rifle Scopes SCOPES
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Did you come here to learn from others and ask for honest opinions?
or did you come here to support your confirmation bias and argue with the experienced.
or did you come here to support your confirmation bias and argue with the experienced.
I say frig it! Try it out if you want but I would make sure they would warranty it if the 338 does end up killing it.
If you have cheap scopes that hold up to big recoil already, why not buy more since they are proven? Why risk something unknown and new?
A couple of points:
1) I can usually come up with something good to say about any scope. Monstrum makes that difficult. I have seen a couple of their FFP scopes. The only thing that worked properly with those was the packaging. They do make exceedingly efficient paperweights.
2) whoever told you they are assembled in the US lied.
ILya
1) I can usually come up with something good to say about any scope. Monstrum makes that difficult. I have seen a couple of their FFP scopes. The only thing that worked properly with those was the packaging. They do make exceedingly efficient paperweights.
2) whoever told you they are assembled in the US lied.
ILya
The reason you're getting shit on is because you asked a question. We recommended you buy something better. Gave you options. You said you're still going with a shit chinese optic. Doesn't matter if it's "assembled in USA", you can't make a good product from shitty parts. It's fucking simple, you're just too hard headed to see through your own bias. People are recommending known brands that actually work accept the advice or don't but stop claiming you have cheaper scopes on light weight heavier recoiling rifles. Anyone can put a $200 scope on a rifle and have it last a while if it's only shot a couple times a year. There's a reason top tier optics cost top tier prices you just refuse to accept that.
Maybe the reason you're not getting an answer is because folks here are not using them.. Or won't admit it...
You sound like a Quigley Ford kinda guy.
I'm starting to get why @TheGerman is straight to the point with no bullshit.
Anyway...to the original poster....you've already made up your mind...why bother asking us anything? Coming here asking about cheap scopes is like going to a Ferrari Convention and asking what beaded seat cover to put in a Prius...we simply can't relate.
To me....and I know you don't care...but putting a cheap scope on an expensive rifle is a sacrilege. Scope price should somewhat match rifle price....in my oh so humble opinion.
Anyway...to the original poster....you've already made up your mind...why bother asking us anything? Coming here asking about cheap scopes is like going to a Ferrari Convention and asking what beaded seat cover to put in a Prius...we simply can't relate.
To me....and I know you don't care...but putting a cheap scope on an expensive rifle is a sacrilege. Scope price should somewhat match rifle price....in my oh so humble opinion.
No sir no one's "bashing" you I think you just don't like the answers you're receiving on low quality Chinese optics and you're lashing out because of it. And no Monstrum is not "made in the USA" I don't even see were that they claim to be and even if they do the "made in the USA" moniker is not what it's used to be as it's been abused by misleading manufacturers. According to the Buy American Act compliant, which means 51% or greater of the parts and labor are sourced from the USA meaning a scope assembled in the US with cheap Chinese parts can legally be labeled "made in the USA".
If you need a 338 or 300 ultra mag to kill a deer, then you may want to find another hobby. I have shot my last 6 deer with a 16” 6.8 spc and they have traveled a total of 10 yards combined. Do you shoot everything at 1500 yards?
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Look dude I dont need smartass awnsers, I have killed many Deer with a Bow, I seem to get alot of smartass awnsers on this site. Choose your wepon and no I dont shoot deer at 1500 yards, I just like magnum calibers is that ok with you dude ?
I talked to a guy from monstrum, and he said stay away from china scopes, so you tell me , the scopes are made in cal. that is the feedback I got, I dont mind people stating that there is better glass, Im not stupid, The question I origanally ask was if anyone ever had or used a Monstrum scope, and still I get why do ya need a 300 ultra mag to kill deer, because I can thats why, Hell ive killed many with a 30 30, 30 06, 308, Many with a bow, and yes many with a 300 ultra mag, and a couple with my 338 Lapua, My choice of wepon is my biss, some smartass told me to take up another hobbie if I needed a 300 ultra mag to kill Deer, I know alot of companys outsource parts to China, I guess I will test a Monstrum myself and I am sure it will serve the purpose, and mabye a Athlon also cause they are made in China, but have a lifetime warranty, What I dont need is people on here telling me I dont know jack shit about scopes, Just because I metioned a Cheaper scope. I know about Nightforce, SB all that stuff. I mount my own scopes level tork them to spec, level with a plum bob, bore sight , load my own Ammo, sorry for the rant man but holy shit, some of the replys I got on here were uncalled for.
338L566, there is a sucker born everyday. That scope is not made in California nor anywhere else in the US for that matter.
If you know about scopes like you say, then this fact should be elementary to you. I personally don’t give two shits about what craptastic cheap scope that you want to justify putting on your rifle, but stop the nonsense that the scope is built anywhere other than China.
If you know about scopes like you say, then this fact should be elementary to you. I personally don’t give two shits about what craptastic cheap scope that you want to justify putting on your rifle, but stop the nonsense that the scope is built anywhere other than China.
calm down or two things will happen to you. First a mob of wolves smelling weakness and exploiting it for sheer pleasure. Then the snap and you never existed here.I said I cant afford one right now. That is why I am looking at cheaper options. for now .
The Monstrum won’t track out of the box before you put it under recoil. If you adjust parallax and your POA moves it’s junk, period. Did you watch the review? Don’t waste your money, especially if you don’t have any.
Never trust someone who is trying to sell toyou. Especially when he’s selling something with zero reputation or clout.
Look: if a 170 dollar scope from China is crap, you’re expectin one that’s “made in the USA” to be better just because of that fact(lie)? I’d expect it to be even worse in that case since we have to pay for labor over here. In either case it looks to be about on the ncstar level.
I wouldn’t waste my money on it. Just get a fixed swfa for 200 something used. It’s a real company with a real reputation that someone has actually heard of before and will actually be there tomorrow to warranty it if something does happen to it.
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Muzzle breaks are hard on scopes
And stop buying junk optics. Obsolete minimum is a a SWFA 10x
Help wanted ads are full of jobs
And stop buying junk optics. Obsolete minimum is a a SWFA 10x
Help wanted ads are full of jobs
Don’t listen to these guys, they don’t have a monstrum. Buy it, shoot it, then post a review on here and convince everyone why it is a good scope. At the price point, even if it breaks after the first mag its gotta be a good deal right?
Do you do concrete work for a living by chance?
In fairness, you made the comment that smaller calibers have let deer run too far. There is nothing wrong with hunting deer with a magnum, I always take my 7mm mag when I go out of state. But a 338 LM or a 300 ultra is a step up from the run of the mill mag. If you had spent any time in the hide, you had to know that you would get some crap over asking about a $200 scope for a 338 lm and saying that you need a 300 ultra mag to make a drt shot on a deer.
I’ve only seen one millett in the wild, and it was mounted on a m82a1. Go figure, $200 scope on a $8000 rifle.
275...obviously. We needed you for 2020 man, thanks for coming back Buddly.
I once saw a set of Mullet, oops...uh...Millett, yeah, Millett rings.
You just shat on everyone who recommended a decent budget scope and now you’re asking about the Razor? I thought you didn’t have $$$$$!!!
I disagree. You're not the first to come here to ask for opinions and then act like you're being attacked when people don't tell you what you want to hear.
There has never before been so many good choices of quality optics in all price ranges. There has also bever been so much worthless crap on the market, and some of it for insane prices. A scope that won’t track is not even a real scope. It’s more of a novelty item.
IM not a sucker thank you. but like I said I have a Muller scope in a rem 300 ultra running at least 10 years no problems, paid like $230 for it. I dont understand why all the shit I just ask a simple Question ,
Here we go again I just asked about it , in the future nicer glass but noght right now.
I was attacked with pure bullshit I am not stupid,
ARE you calling me a liar? I have a $250 Muller on a rem 300 ultra mag running 10 years, and yes I shoot the hell out of it. I m sure you just know everything or you think you do.
Please research and come back and show the class your results.
A lot of air guns don’t kick at all but are harder on scopes than a 50 bmg. Why is that ?
Most people here are semi serious about precision shooting. This isn’t airsoft.forum or ar15.con.
People give you solid advice Then you argue with them. Lol
Go get a Barska that will work for ya
I was attacked with pure bullshit I am not stupid, I just asked a question ?
I looked at them and think they are great out of stock, at least were I looked.
I happen to shoot a 338 Lapua thank you, I was not arguing just stating facts, I have a $250 Muller scope on a Rem 300 ultra mag , For at least 10 years, and I reload and shoot alot so the awnsers I get about cheap scopes are not all True, No problems with that scope, so I ask you I have Herd BUY A SWFA, NIGHTFORCE, VORTEX, THEN I HERD GUYS BASHING VORTEX PST, AND NIGHTFORCE, AND ALSO LEUPOLD? NOW YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR A BETTER CLASS THAN ME LOL, i HAVE BEEN SHOOTING A LONG TIME FELLOW, SO DONT PULL THAT MOST OF US ARE BETTER SHIT, CAUSE YOUR NOT.
You shoot 338? Magnum?
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