Secret Service Eyes New 6.5mm Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle (RFI)

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Secret Service Eyes New 6.5mm Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle​

New 6.5mm Creedmoor rifles would give Secret Service counter-sniper teams valuable extra range, accuracy, and ballistic performance.
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In to here @Terry Cross commentary
Me commenting on their stuff would be like AOC commenting on Elon's latest SpaceX designs.

I know a few of those guys and have worked with a couple of their Sr. TLs (that are now promoted out of that section) but their doings are still a mystery to me.

They sure seem to be re-tooling while they can.
They are already cutting some big checks to Acc Intl. for the new primary bolt action sniper rifle. I think that deal was sealed before the solicitation even closed.

Now I guess they are laying out a solicitation that has specs written to match KA or Larue projects designed to keep others from being able to bid.


Regarding 6.5CM for that work. . .
Who's gonna tell them that a 6.5CM out of a 16" gas gun is NOT going to have much if any improved ballistics over a 308Win from a 20" barrel?
Their gas guns are supposed to be deployed more for a DMR role as part of a counter-assault, not a primary counter-sniper role. If kept in that role context, the current .308 gun/ammo combo is more than capable of handling threats inside their normal engagement envelope.

I think it's more of a case of someone itching for new kit rather than actual need in this instance.

They need to just keep training hard with what they already have and concentrate the new budget dollars on counter-drone and perimeter surveillance. Proliferation of drones now enable a 12yr old nerd to defeat any perimeter security and successfully reduce a high value human before it could be countered.
 
Now I guess they are laying out a solicitation that has specs written to match KA or Larue projects designed to keep others from being able to bid.
They released an RFI to ensure that they would get a good number of responses from a wide array of potential suppliers.
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It's pretty wide open, and I would expect the major players along with a few wild-cards to respond to the RFI and submit for the potential RFP when/if it releases.
 
They released an RFI to ensure that they would get a good number of responses from a wide array of potential suppliers.
HERE
It's pretty wide open, and I would expect the major players along with a few wild-cards to respond to the RFI and submit for the potential RFP when/if it releases.
It will be interesting to see what they finally refine the specs down to when they move from an RFI to an RFP.
They certainly boxed in the RFP specs for their primary sniper rifles so that nobody could quote but A.I.
Will be interesting to see if they do similar with this if it goes forward at all.

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I got no hat in this game, but it seems all fun and game with new cartridges and all, but what is it we all say to newcomers?

Get Training. Caliber Selection is probably in the 2nd or 3rd decimal point of success calculation especially under 800 yards.

My worthless 0.02

Kinda like the replacing the 1911 with Beretta and Beretta vs Sig and then the M-4 with the 416 and now the Sig Fury or whatever. Story as old as time.

Someone is getting rich and it ain't us and I don't really see a pressing need.
 
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I agree with Terry. Other than the slight recoil reduction there is no real benefit over a 308 already in the system. Shots over 2-300 yards are virtually unheard of for the semi. The SOW specs 130-145gr so similar bc to the newer 308 rounds.

You have a plethora of open air and barrier rounds with the 308 that are proven and predictable. You are going to burn barrels up faster. A 16" 6.5creed is anemic. If they try to push performance via double based wonder powders they are going to prematurely start breaking the rifles.

I get wanting new guns and as the resident 308 hater on this website.....the one place where it makes sense is in LE work. 308 just works so well in that application there is no reason to deviate.