Seeking Low Back Pressure .30cal Can (so many choices)

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Been toying with the idea of getting a .30cal can that I can move around my rifles (so I am new to this world). Mostly milsurp, kit-built or as-built military semi autos i.e. AKMs, FALs, PRT91, PSL, M1A, AR15s/AR10 and others. I also have a couple .308 precision rifles (RPR and Robar SR90) Been doing a lot of Saturday morning reading/surfing and, good lord, what a minefield of options, opinions and choices. Frankly it’s overwhelming.

I’ll probably never put them on my SBR’d Dracos so no short barrel concerns. Not really concerned about heat from full auto or crazy mag dumps so rapid heat up (and cool down) wi Titanium okay. I’m mainly a benchrest plinker slapping steel out to typically 400yds, maybe a couple/few mags at a time slow fire. I’ve learned low-blowback designs may not be as quiet forward of the muzzle but seem to do as well with noise reduction as traditional baffled can at the rear and sides of the shooter. For the precision rifles I may end up getting a traditional baffled Can one day but for my semi-autos I am resolved to get a newer low-blowback design and I’m settling between two newer options on the market. Looking for any thoughts, opinions, experiences with :

Dead Air Nomad Ti XC (under 10oz @ 7”) OR Huxwrx Ventum 762 (14.5oz @ 6.7”)
• Both use a universal Hub system = good.
• Both are Titanium 3D printed.
• The Ventum seems to have a lot of independent seemingly objective, high-praise reviews and gets great marks for some of the lowest blowback performance.
• The Ventum’s guts can come out of the tube which I suppose is a plus for cleaning or service.
• The Ventum is under $1,000
• The Nomad Ti XC is pretty new and I can’t find much independent review of the Ti XC outside of Dead Air or Retailer interviews or what look like product launch videos.
• The Nomad Ti XC: How’s blow-back performance?
• The Nomad Ti XC is a bit lighter but I’m typically on a bench so not a big deal
• The Nomad Ti XC is about $1,100 but ships with either a 5/8-24 direct thread adapter or Xeno adapter and brake.
• (I read about some nasty customer support issues wi Dead Air but when you’re a bigger company and been around a while someone’s gonna get but hurt and spread it all over the internet for others to parrot.)

I’ll have to buy compatible muzzle devices for all potential rifle hosts but will probably just start with a couple/few. I don’t know off of the top of my head what thread specs are for that list of rifles I have. Are there pretty standard muzzle device options out there for standard NATO and ComBloc type rifles (AKMs, FALs, PRT91, PSL, M1A, AR15s/AR10 and others) ?

BTW what the f_ck is with the crazy $90-250+ costs of all these little thread adapters, tapered flash-hiders, brakes, caps or other adapter/widgets in this world? Probably a topic for a whole other thread (and probably is) but I bet if these were no longer NFA items most suppressors would be a couple/few hundred dollars, the hiders and brakes would be under $50 bucks, and other thread-type adapters and caps would be what they should be, around $10 or so dollars (unsolicited opinion, probably in ignorance).

Anyway, preciate any insights and, PS, it would be more helpful if anyone would post something more than . . . . “JUST GET a _______”.

This guy seems to rate all Huxwrx overall highest for low back pressure
Suppressor Back Pressure Test: Part 1


This fellow spent a lot of time wi older Nomad Titaniums but not newest Ti XC
 
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It’s a type of alloy used as the material for the blast baffle in many cans, but can be used as the material for entire cans as well if intended for heavy firing schedules. It’s very strong, has good thermal resistance, and maintains its strength over a wide temperature range. The downside is its heavy.
 
It’s a type of alloy used as the material for the blast baffle in many cans, but can be used as the material for entire cans as well if intended for heavy firing schedules. It’s very strong, has good thermal resistance, and maintains its strength over a wide temperature range. The downside is its heavy.
Correct, it is a form of Stainless Steel.
 
Also, are 30 cal cans going to be okay with 8mm? I'd love to try and suppress my M76 although I don't know if there'd be a thread adapter or muzzle device / QD options for it.
 
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Also, are 30 cal cans going to be okay with 8mm? I'd love to try and suppress my M76 although I don't know if there'd be a thread adapter or muzzle device / QD options for it.
8mm is.319” I would bet that would push the boundaries of clearance. Not sure I would try it since they were designed for 7.62mm
 
I just ordered a B&T SRBS 7.62 Inconel today from Silencer Shop. I was also looking at the HuxWrx Ventrum 7.62 but with the free tax stamp on the B&T the cheap bastard in me couldn’t say no. lol They are similar in specs and both do well with semi autos so didn’t think either was a bad choice. Will let you know how it is in anywhere from a week to 6 months lol.
 
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I just ordered a B&T SRBS 7.62 Inconel today from Silencer Shop. I was also looking at the HuxWrx Ventrum 7.62 but with the free tax stamp on the B&T the cheap bastard in me couldn’t say no. lol They are similar in specs and both do well with semi autos so didn’t think either was a bad choice. Will let you know how it is in anywhere from a week to 6 months lol.
It’s a good can, you’ll like it. Not the quietest obviously but backpressure is low.
 
Curious why you went B&T SRBS over a CAT ODB, HUX 7.62, or some of the other equivalents?

Just like I said. The free tax stamp. Lol I was almost buying the Huxwrx Ventum 762 as they both are about the same for performance and both use hub attachments or direct thread so saving $200 won me over. I wasn’t getting the Ti version of either as I didn’t need super light.
 
I was under the impression the ventum was being discontinued. I have been looking at Hux suppressors for the last couple of weeks. Held a PTR as well, but the tiny pores in the printed mesh have me concerned about getting clogged or damaged over time
 
Has anyone analyzed the data from “The Sound Summit 2024”.


I’m specifically interested in the tests on “.30 CALIBER SUPPRESSORS SHOOTING CARTRIDGE/HOST: .308-20BA” IOW 30 cal cans on .308 barrel. Which column represents the “best” performance from the shooter’s ear? “Mil dBA AVG” or SE dB, SE dBA, SE Imp dB*ms, or SE Leq dBA.

Unfortunately, there doesn’t appear to be any identification nor discernment between what is a LBP design or traditional baffled design.
 
I have both, though the following is a mix of my experience, hunch and "it says on the web," so grain of salt and all that.

The only rifle I've used both outside on is a SBR 300 blk with subs and the DA was quieter. This was just my ear meter noting that while I could shoot the Ventum without ear pro, I'm not sure I'd want to for a lot of shooting . The DA was better. Even with subs, it warmed up more quickly.

The DA is very light, and while 3D printing allows for a lot of things, if weight hints at robustness, the Ventum is more so.

HUXWRXl lists no barrel restriction, while DA does. DA notes "semi auto" while HUX clears the Ventum with a more detailed (and harder?) SOCOM test.

I can't say which is lower back pressure; they both seem pretty good. For the best back pressure, I prefer the HUX Flow Ti series but that locks you into their muzzle things.

I feel like the Ventum is a better all-around can if youre going to shoot both fast and slow.

Not specifically related, I recently had a CS issue with a HUX accessory and it went smoothly and quickly.

Not on you list, but noted in another post, I have and really like the CAT ODB. But it and the Ventum both sit on 300 uppers...
 
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