Thats what i ended up doing. Only bad thing is if i decide to hunt with it its one long sum bitch. O well i guessWhy not just zero with the can on and not worry about?
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Join the contest SubscribeThats what i ended up doing. Only bad thing is if i decide to hunt with it its one long sum bitch. O well i guessWhy not just zero with the can on and not worry about?
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He's running a 17oz can on a barrel with a muzzle diameter of 0.700, what do you expect?
Just got a call from Seekins about my 300 WM. They duplicated my accuracy issues, maybe to a slightly lesser extent based on what they said on the phone.
Anyway, they will be rebarreling and rebedding my rifle or sending me a new one with a proof target grouping. Early on I was a bit pessimistic about customer service, largely because their responses started going to my junk email folder and I thought they weren't responding. They have handled the situation as well as can be asked for. I still have my concerns about the deep spiral flutes on a 300 WM but hopefully those concerns are removed with the next barrel or rifle.
I will update again once I get the rifle back out on the range.
Ah crap just saw this.. I’m having issues with my 300wm as well.
Just read enough in this thread to contact them ASAP. I’ll admit I was extremely disappointed for the $$. I even bought a hyskore dual damper rest to make sure I wasn’t just loosing my touch. I shot a .3 7 shot group breaking in a new proof carbon barrel on my 308 at the same time I was load testing the 300wm so good to know I’m not crazy.
I haven't heard back from them yet on mine and kind of expected to. You're the 4th or 5th person out of the same # of people I've seen with less than great results with the 300 WM.. I hope they figure it out.
I remember it fouling pretty good the first time i cleaned it. I don't recall it being too bad the second time.
About to test some 190g FGMM per Seekins and I am examining everything before range time. All of my rifles are in chassis so not that familiar with bedding...Is that spot ahead of the recoil lug normal? Most bedding jobs I’ve seen end at the recoil lug/end of receiver. It is supporting the first .75”-1” or so of the barrel after the action. If you slide paper down the barrel it stops .75”-1” before the receiver face.
Anyone know of a bolt handle that will fit the Havak? The bolt knob is a little small for my liking.
It's a common bedding technique. I've done it and seen gunsmiths do it that way and swear by it. I've also often seen and done the full free float technique. I've seen both ways work extremely well to maximize a rifle's potential.
I received my 300 WM ph1 back today. Looks like they did a lot of work.
I assume the single target is the one they shot with the Berger factory 215 ammo I sent with the rifle. I’m guessing the others are with federal gmm 190 smk but asked for clarification. 12 of the Berger rounds were shot so it makes me wonder what the other ones looked like. If the brake was loose, I wonder why they didn’t shoot another group with it tight.
I’ll throw some rounds together and try to do some shooting on Sunday.
I received my 300 WM ph1 back today. Looks like they did a lot of work.
I assume the single target is the one they shot with the Berger factory 215 ammo I sent with the rifle. I’m guessing the others are with federal gmm 190 smk but asked for clarification. 12 of the Berger rounds were shot so it makes me wonder what the other ones looked like. If the brake was loose, I wonder why they didn’t shoot another group with it tight.
I’ll throw some rounds together and try to do some shooting on Sunday.
Honestly it's kind of surprising they shared that whole list of items worked on.. I'm not sure how the head space was shallow, the shoulders on brass moved forward 0.016" on the first firing. Maybe shallow at the belt but not the shoulder? I'm not that familiar with the process but I would have guessed that a single reamer cuts the shoulder and belt portion of a chamber at the same time so the distance between the two is fixed?
Honestly it's kind of surprising they shared that whole list of items worked on.. I'm not sure how the head space was shallow, the shoulders on brass moved forward 0.016" on the first firing. Maybe shallow at the belt but not the shoulder? I'm not that familiar with the process but I would have guessed that a single reamer cuts the shoulder and belt portion of a chamber at the same time so the distance between the two is fixed?
Honestly it's kind of surprising they shared that whole list of items worked on.. I'm not sure how the head space was shallow, the shoulders on brass moved forward 0.016" on the first firing. Maybe shallow at the belt but not the shoulder? I'm not that familiar with the process but I would have guessed that a single reamer cuts the shoulder and belt portion of a chamber at the same time so the distance between the two is fixed?
Might try a load in either extreme like the Barnes 175 LRX and maybe a Hornady 212 ELD-X load before it goes back.
Sometimes they just don’t like a load. I couldn’t get the Hornady loads to group anywhere near what I wanted in my sendero, but 175 LRX did dandy. View attachment 7003524
Enough said. Send it back!
I had to have a brand new sako finnlight sent back for similar performance. They just gave me a new one.
I get my Havak tomorrow. Praying now...
Honestly it's kind of surprising they shared that whole list of items worked on.. I'm not sure how the head space was shallow, the shoulders on brass moved forward 0.016"
Just measured my brass. From FL size I only have .008 movement.
.308 here, mine is even less than that. about .003
Never had that before but it shoots really well so...
So you guys are saying that your brass only grows .003 or .004 on firing b/c you have a very tight chamber?
Is that not good.
When it comes to reloading I always full length resize and trim anyway so I have never worried about such nuances. So I am completely ignorant of the point you make.
Please illuminate my unlearned BB Brain.
The 510 trigger was crisp but I sure wish it came at 2lbs as standard. 3 lbs just seems really heavy when you're trying to shoot tight groups. Gonna pull mine and adjust it.
Might get a 2 stage later.
Weather was 30 degrees with 20 mph winds.
200 grain accubonds. Should be at 2900 FPS with a 26 inch barrel. That's a lot of oomph.
I will get out on a better day with more time. Pretty optimistic.
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