Range Report Shooting at a 45 degree cant

[Tara-iti]

Hi guys have just shot a match here in NZ and one of the barricade stages involved shooting through slots of different heights where the rifle had to be canted at 45 degrees. I can get my head around laying your rifle on its side but not halfway over. Needless to say there were not may hits on the targets at 400m or 600m. Has anyone done this or have any idea of how it could be calculated. My come up at 600m is 3.7 mil. Next time at the range I am going to mount a .22 on my tripod at 45 and see where it hits. I am picking if canted to the left the poi will be left and low but by how much is a mystery
Thanks

 

[Lowlight]

You have to add both windage and elevation, then try to figure the wind where you will hold it

So, if I do the math based on say 500 yards for my rifle, using the 224 cause it's in JBM Right now, with NO Wind, the elevation is 2.7 Mil

Adding a 45-degree cant, it says, 3.1 Mil elevation and .8 added to my windage.

So you have to come up, and over ... it is dependent on Sight Height as how far the scope rolls over matters.

None of this rollover stuff is designed for distance to be quite honest because Distance should give you time and opportunity as a Precision Rifle is a stand-off platform. I get trying to mix it up, and it sounds like they used a Kyle Lamb AR Barricade, so I get it. But honestly, the rollover stuff is silly, honestly what is the threat to the rifleman if the target is 400m away and all you have is a small slot in a wall? If it was to help someone else, so there is no threat, move, and find a better spot.

I shot a match in 2001 at Storm Mountain, the wanted to go into a tower that had a room simulator on the 3rd floor where we were supposed to engage a target at 300 yards. They used the window frame to block the scope hoping you would roll over to make the shot. (Never said it, just assumed) I did a Hawkins position on the table and dropped below the frame and hit the target. The RO said, "You can't do that" to which my reply, was, "I Just did "

 

[lash]

Thanks for the reference and therefore, a lesson on the Hawkins position, Frank. I had not heard of it before, so looked it up and read about it. Now I'll have to try it just to have another tool in my bag-o-tricks.

 

[Lowlight]

Here is the Hawkins Position

While the picture is not great, the idea is to lower the shooter and lay on top of the rifle to decrease the size. It works shooting over a rise so you do not skyline yourself and can get you under a vehicle.

Remember back in my Time, we did not have a bipod on an M40A1, there was none available, so we used other methods to support the front of the rifle depending on the situation.

 

[joel65]

Found a video on this.

 

[Diver160651]

I did a Hawkins position on the table and dropped below the frame and hit the target. The RO said, "You can't do that" to which my reply, was, "I Just did "

Damn Gamer!

 

[Lowlight]

Right,

Gaming before the game existed

 

[Tara-iti]

Thanks for the advice Frank. Yes it was a stupid stage that did nothing to enhance or improve anyone's rifle skills it just frustrated everyone. I have looked at the JBM calculator that's a great inclusion having the cant option I hope to never have to use it again though.

 

[RTH1800]

I did not know the name but I have used that position in the field many times.

 

[RTH1800]

But, I started shooting prior to bipods being known to me at least.
My Freeland USMC rifle fork with rubberized u notch on top was high tec.

 

[Seymour Fish]

Here is the Hawkins Position

While the picture is not great, the idea is to lower the shooter and lay on top of the rifle to decrease the size. It works shooting over a rise so you do not skyline yourself and can get you under a vehicle.

Remember back in my Time, we did not have a bipod on an M40A1, there was none available, so we used other methods to support the front of the rifle depending on the situation.

Lowlight, is there a concern the bott may dig in on recoil and throw the shot high off grass, dirt, etc ?