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#3,954
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Got on it last week!!!
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#3,957
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Jeff are we talking dealer fees here, I suppose it depends if you buy the suppressor through your local ffl or he just handles the transfer of the can, I suppose anywhere from $50-100 would be the norm. Another question does the local ffl have to collect tax on the can if you buy it from out of state, like rifles.
 
#3,958
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I did a trust route, get it notarized, and fill out the paperwork with him. ATF doesn't need the document that contains the items that's in your trust. I did mine in a olderversion of Quicken Willmaker.

Talk to Chip from Cascade Arsenal. I bought 2 from him for lower than MSRP. Good guy. I think most places that sell suppressors knows hiw to do trusts. My first one I got from DGS and they did all the paperwork, including the trust but their prices were expensive.. Don't know how they are now.
 
#3,960
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I *personally* would not trust a trust unless it was reviewed by <span style="text-decoration: line-through">an attorney</span> <span style="font-style: italic">an attorney I am paying to look out for my interests</span> and who is familiar with trust laws in the state in which the trust exists.

The BATF approving the trust for form 4 purposes and the trust 'standing up' if it ever needed to are two entirely different matters.

Everybody can make their own decisions about that matter -- just be sure to understand the potential risk if for some reason your trust comes under scrutiny and it is found to be invalid due to some technicality in state law (or legal precedent) that an old copy of Willmaker or firearm-dealer-practicing-law-without-a-license was not aware of
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#3,962
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have heard that the "tax fee" for the form is $200.00 + the cost of the can + any dealer fees. Just wanting clarification, as I can't afford a can right now anyway, just in case...</div></div>

Plus state "use tax" or sales tax (which depends on whether you buy local or have it transfered)
 
#3,963
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Updated again.

AKMike------------Paid
MJH + 1 LG shirt---Paid
STS + 1 XL shirt---paid
Blury6 +1 XL shirt-Paid
Rover31------------paid
Pat M + 1 XL shirt-paid
1911fan + 1 XL shirt-paid
Alan H +1 XL shirt-paid
Mark W-------------Paid
BKster +1 XL shirt-paid
Team Send It
TS-IT wife
Market Garden
M-G Wife
Capt. Kirk
Rotortuner
Rotor +1
mattj------------Paid
Ryo
Dafar probably not
Tribe Maybe
May Day +1 XL shirt

I updated the list again, & Fri. is the day I make the T-Shirt order final.
Also, if some of you could bring a spotting scope with I'd appreciate it. I have 2 confirmed, but will probably need a couple more. Thanks.
 
#3,964
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Suppressor prices are often quoted as "plus-plus", i.e. the total price of the can includes the can, state sales tax, and the $200 one-time tax stamp. So a $495 suppressor ends up costing $495 + tax + $200, about $750 in my area. Your tax rate is probably different than mine.
If you buy from a stocking dealer there is no transfer fee, or shouldn't be. The Form 4 is similar to a 4473, the one you fill out for evey firearm purchase.
So: Go down to the local emporium, pick out your new suppressor. Fill out paperwork, pay for the can, and write a check for $200 to Uncle Sam. Then wait, and wait, and wait.... You can't take the can home until your Form 4 returns with the stamp on it. (It's just like a postage stamp, though bigger and more expensive.)
My first one took 30 days from check cashing to stamp in hand, my last one over 6 months. Part of the delay was that the BATFE kicked back the trust the dealer was using for some reason. After being reworded by the store's attorneys and some negotiation with the BATFE, the trust was accepted and my Form 4 in hand a couple weeks later. For that reason I'm confident my trust will hold up.
If you're a Washington resident I'd go buy one today, before the rush.


1911fan
 
#3,965
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Thanks for the info on licensing 1911fan. It will certainly help folks considering purchase. It will be a while before I take the plunge. Are there any recurring fees like an annual FFL license?
 
#3,966
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Hey Guys, does anyone have an extra and cheap 30-06 lying around they want to sell me. One with a cheap scope. I am wanting to buy one for a young man in my church. Nothing to expensive please. Anyway, I could really use your help. Thank you.

Jake
509-280-1509
 
#3,968
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Guys im sorry i have been so out of the loop. 1911 fan posted that we should buy a can before the rush. DId wa state approve the ownership bill? I thought it flopped and we still had the ridiculous law that we could own one but not use it? Sorry I never really paid much attention because until recently i was not interested.

sefond stupid question. If you have a can for 223 and ou have the correct threads on a 22 will the can work for both?
 
#3,969
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcvibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Guys, does anyone have an extra and cheap 30-06 lying around they want to sell me. One with a cheap scope. I am wanting to buy one for a young man in my church. Nothing to expensive please. Anyway, I could really use your help. Thank you.

Jake
509-280-1509 </div></div>
Wallmart has Rem 700 ADL .30-06 with cheap ass scope on sale for less than $400. At least the one in Spokane Valley has that price on it.
 
#3,970
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DAFAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys im sorry i have been so out of the loop. 1911 fan posted that we should buy a can before the rush. DId wa state approve the ownership bill? I thought it flopped and we still had the ridiculous law that we could own one but not use it? Sorry I never really paid much attention because until recently i was not interested.

sefond stupid question. If you have a can for 223 and ou have the correct threads on a 22 will the can work for both? </div></div>

Assuming threads are right, it will work, but not recommended since 22lr will dirty up you nice 5.56/.223 can.
 
#3,971
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DAFAR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guys im sorry i have been so out of the loop. 1911 fan posted that we should buy a can before the rush. DId wa state approve the ownership bill? I thought it flopped and we still had the ridiculous law that we could own one but not use it? Sorry I never really paid much attention because until recently i was not ? </div></div>

No it passed. Just waiting for the legal date which I believe is in July.
 
#3,972
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If anybody is looking to save some money on a 308 can and doesn't mind a steel one i have a gemtech hvt (handles up to 300wm) with a tab heat shield in multicam. I would be willing to sell with cover for $650. the suppressor by itself is $875 in stores.

I just have serious need for a titanium can so i am willing to take a substantial hit on this one.
 
#3,973
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcvibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Guys, does anyone have an extra and cheap 30-06 lying around they want to sell me. One with a cheap scope. I am wanting to buy one for a young man in my church. Nothing to expensive please. Anyway, I could really use your help. Thank you.

Jake
509-280-1509 </div></div> Jake give me a $ ballpark. PM if you want. <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">LOTS </span></span></span>of used guns at Two Eagles pawn in Deer Park. I'll also check with the other gunshop I regularly do business with, as they frequently have a number used savages @ fair prices. The ought-six I <span style="text-decoration: line-through"><span style="text-decoration: underline">have</span></span> had I gave to my son.
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<span style="font-weight: bold"> <span style="color: #000099">Also...when I grow up..I wanna be like TeamSendIt</span> </span> He has all the neat toyz
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#3,974
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craig if you think i have all the cool toys you should spend some time with tribe his shit makes my tools of the trade look like they were from toy'r'us. if its the best made he owns it and he officially makes me jealous.
 
#3,975
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Dibbs, all this is coming out of my pocket for this young man so I would honestly like to keep it under $300. A right handed 30-06 or 270 would be perfect. Cheap but something he can grow into as well. He is 14 years old.
 
#3,976
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Team send it I agree with your above statement. The only good thing about that is that it made me realize I can never keep up with the jones"s so Im just happy with what I have.

However, Tribe is a very smart guy, we were talking last year and he said the reason he can afford the best of the best in the long range world is that he sold off his other toys and focused his resources in one area. I am just not quite yet ready to do that.
 
#3,977
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Many of the participants here, are slaves to this.... junkies if you will.

That said... to put it in perspective from personal experience... no matter how far I have chased this rabbit down the hole, I still know, that I can't out shoot my original 5R.

As has been said a bazillion times around the Hide.... It ain't the bow, it's the injun.


..........................although......... straight arrows don't hurt!
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#3,978
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It funny the things we have all sold to procure the best equipment(staightest arrows). Being a tinkerer and a rifle builder, it seems I am always in search for the ultimate and testing idea's. Some work and some shouldn't have never been built. Tribe is spot on...its an addiction. But in the end, its the indian that makes the straightest arrow fly correctly.
 
#3,979
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you guys are spot on, probably my biggest problem with improving my skill is that i am constantly changing my equipment. i do think a true marksmen should be able to shoot any firearm well, but he will always shoot his go to rifle the best. Now if I could just stick with a go to rifle for at least a year.

my problem is i love to try new ideas and i can't afford to keep old rifles and continually build new ones. I am hoping that trend is slowing down and i can keep my new trg 7mm08 build for awhile.

On the bright side if any of you guys ever have questions about a specific stock/action/trigger/caliber feel free to ask because i have tried a metric shit ton of them.
 
#3,980
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My rifle ADD is slowing down as well. That said, my wife is pretty enthusiastic about long range shooting after practicing a bit this past weekend, and I was able to use that as an excuse to start a 7WSM build for myself if I give her my .260 barreled action. For the first time all the big stuff other than the cartridge is staying constant (stock, scope) which I feel pretty good about since I'm getting comfortable with it.
 
#3,981
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Well, I haven't done all the changing around that some of you guys have, but right now my stick is just what I wanted for a long time. The only thing I may do to it now is a DBM bottom. I'm going to keep this just as is 'till it's wore out, & I'll build the next one exactly like it. Then maybe I'll get a 375 CT, or Versico, or something bigger for "LONG RANGE".
 
#3,982
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In all honesty...I'm perty damn happy to be able to shoot with you fine folks occasionally. Shit,my abilities aren't up to the capabilities of my equipment, but it's fun to experiment with different calibers and try out different rifles. If we all used the same stuff it would be pretty boring. I just hope I'm able to wear out a few barrels from use in my lifetime.

<span style="font-size: 14pt"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold"> I reeellllyyyy enjoy farming lead.</span></span></span>
 
#3,983
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my problem is i love to try new ideas and i can't afford to keep old rifles and continually build new ones. I am hoping that trend is slowing down and i can keep my new trg 7mm08 build for awhile.</div></div>

Try having Chris as your brother in law and always coming up with new rifles I should build in different calibers. My .338 Edge was 100% his idea, along with the 6br, and when he wanted me to do the 6x47 or one of the new AR builds hes doing. Once I have a rifle half way set up and he calls me up to tell me about the next best thing that I should change my direction to...
 
#3,984
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mm509</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't really want to use 1/2" but I got a really good deal on it. It should be able to handle 300WM fairly decent though. The bad part is packing it to location, so I cut out a few more smaller ones this morning.

I might sell them though. </div></div>


If you are still loooking to sell, I would be interested. I am in Yakima.
 
#3,985
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Hi All -

I guess it would be polite to introduce myself. I'm Matt. I live in Yakima, and JD (HSSS) told me about this corner of SH when we were jabbering on the phone today. I've been fooling around with rifles for years, and am looking to get back to being a bit more serious about it. Nothing over the top, just looking to push myself some. I'd love to pull triggers with y'all sometime.
 
#3,986
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mkollman74</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Nothing over the top ...</span></span></div></div>
Gosh, how many times have I heard that being said ...?

Seven rifle buys, builds, sales, trades later I usually hear, "do you think I have rifle ADD?".
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How many times have I said that to myself?
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Welcome to SHWW, the very best part of the Hide!
 
#3,987
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my problem is i love to try new ideas and i can't afford to keep old rifles and continually build new ones. I am hoping that trend is slowing down and i can keep my new trg 7mm08 build for awhile.</div></div>

Try having Chris as your brother in law and always coming up with new rifles I should build in different calibers. My .338 Edge was 100% his idea, along with the 6br, and when he wanted me to do the 6x47 or one of the new AR builds hes doing. Once I have a rifle half way set up and he calls me up to tell me about the next best thing that I should change my direction to... </div></div>
Does Chris know about Matrix Ballistics 175 grain .277 caliber bullets? Takes <span style="font-weight: bold">at least</span> a 1:9" barrel twist to stabilize those bad boys. Imagine shooting those out of a .270 Winchester with an un-godly amount of Reloader 17 powderkeg!
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#3,988
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hey guys ive got some stuff for sale to help fund my current build. figured i would give you guys first shot
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. as always you get the SHWW discount....

1. new in wrapper seekins 20MOA base R700/SA RH-$90 FTF

2.like new surefire M951XM07 weaponlight attatches with integral thumb screws: retail around $380: $300 FTF with pressure switch

3. like new EoTech 512. been to the range 5 times was painted but got 98% of it off. smallscratch on hood. $300 FTF

if anyone is interested or wants pics send me a PM

not really looking for trades but im listening
 
#3,989
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MY problem is I go through phases where I want to try diferant things. However I seem to be settling down. I love the precision rifle shooting and for fun believe it or not 22's. I love to try and shoot all kinds of 22lr's and now that they have all these tacticool and precision 22's available I am in heaven.
The one wired thing about me and 22 shooting is that I am too cheap to buy the really good 22 ammo,But I still have alot of fun shooting ground bound skeet and steel out to 200 yards with the little buggers.
 
#3,991
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[Welcome to SHWW, the very best part of the Hide! </div></div>

Thanks for the welcome. I hear the fellas here are a good group. So now that "permission has been granted", anyone have any suppressor plans? I am thinking of an AAC cyclone myself.
 
#3,994
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mkollman74</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[Welcome to SHWW, the very best part of the Hide! </div></div>

Thanks for the welcome. I hear the fellas here are a good group. So now that "permission has been granted", anyone have any suppressor plans? I am thinking of an AAC cyclone myself. </div></div>

As soon as it passed I started thinking "my build just got more expensive"
 
#3,996
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I was just looking at the stats for the SHWW group, and in <5000 views, Tribe will become a millionaire with over a million visits. Maybe we should chip in and get him a card and some cake when the momentous event happens, although he'd probably be happy with a box of naked 210 VLD's
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#3,997
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PhOnEpHrEaK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As soon as it passed I started thinking "my build just got more expensive" </div></div>

I hear that, I had the same thought myself.
 
#3,998
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was just looking at the stats for the SHWW group, and in <5000 views, Tribe will become a millionaire with over a million visits. Maybe we should chip in and get him a card and some cake when the momentous event happens, although he'd probably be happy with a box of naked 210 VLD's
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mmmmmmmmmmm..... Cake.....

I don't know about you guys, but opening a NICE... BIG... FRESH... BOX... of Naked VLD's, makes me feel like a Pirate, creaking open the top of the <span style="font-family: 'Impact'">ever quested chest</span>.... to BEHOLD... all of that GLOWING Treasure within!!!!!!! Muhahahahahahhahaah....::ack::....ahahaha!
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(.......not that I fantasize.... about Naked VLD's.... or..... .....Pirate Wenches.... .....Oily......... ...........never-mind....
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)

How bout just clicking on that "Star Rating" thing, and see how high we can get it to go?!?! ....SHWW Group DOMINATION.
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#3,999
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On the bright side if any of you guys ever have questions about a specific stock/action/trigger/caliber feel free to ask because i have tried a metric shit ton of them. </div></div>

yep he will, I've done it with T-S-I along with several other guys.
That's one of the great things here, everyone here helps the other guy with whatever... pretty cool stuff.
Thanks
T
 
#4,000
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mkollman74</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">Nothing over the top ...</span></span></div></div> "do you think I have rifle ADD?" </div></div>

Hi my name is ________ I have rifle ADD. Yep that would be you, me and every one else here and then some!
I am good with that! Let's enable one another.
T
 
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