Just got this email that it released and available. Looks like they cleaned up the glass to address the recurring issue. Interested in seeing what the new coloring is if anyone gets their hands on a pair
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Sig Kilo 10K Gen 2
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Just got this email that it released and available. Looks like they cleaned up the glass to address the recurring issue. Interested in seeing what the new coloring is if anyone gets their hands on a pair
I have grown accustom to the blue tint on mine and don’t really notice it anymore but it’s great to see that they are upgrading and listening to customer feedback
I seem to remember getting my Kilo 3000s for like $900. These new ones are $2499? I hope the glass quality is a significant jump
3k and 10k aren't really playing in the same league
Until they change that loophole in their warranty, it's an easy pass for that price.
And for those unaware, the 5 year electronics warranty starts at the date your product was manufactured, not when you purchase it. So if it's sitting on a shelf for a year you lose that year.
And for those unaware, the 5 year electronics warranty starts at the date your product was manufactured, not when you purchase it. So if it's sitting on a shelf for a year you lose that year.
As far as I know that has changed to lifetime warranty on these
the pic in their ad shows how blue gen 1 are. so if gen 2 fixes that plus some extra buttons and stuff
how they compare to the Vector X...who knows
Well i just mean in the realm of glass quality alone. Like i would compare my kilo 3000s to viper PSTs but with blue film. Their nowhere near my dads razors we got him much less swaro or leica that I’ve looked through. So been waiting on Sig to put in some premium glass because i simply don’t want to movie away from their laser rangefinder and Abx.
I'm no glass snob but I find my 10k is just as clear as buddies Leica
That has been changed. Standby for more information as things are being updated at the moment.
All I have to say is, "thank you Sig, it's about freaking time!" 
Their blue tint is one of the worst in the industry, but I think the Vectronix appeals to me more so... maybe a bit too late, but plenty of others will be happy with this. Didn't Area 419 just do a big LRF Bino review, any chance they had this Gen2 in there?
Their blue tint is one of the worst in the industry, but I think the Vectronix appeals to me more so... maybe a bit too late, but plenty of others will be happy with this. Didn't Area 419 just do a big LRF Bino review, any chance they had this Gen2 in there?
Negative, gen1 only. The glass my set of 10ks isn't bad at all, but the blue hue sucks. I have the 10x vector with dmr reticle and extenders on order from Euro. That will be the big upgrade of the season.All I have to say is, "thank you Sig, it's about freaking time!"
However I thin the wind feature on the new gen2 is very well thought and simple. They should be doing wind1 and wind2 like vextronix tho.
None! Rolling the dice........like buying a really spendy Arken! I'm only kidding.
Talk to Eurooptic, I believe they are providing the warranty on these units.
If you purchase a Vector X from EuroOptics, I believe they provide a 5 year warranty. Which isn't great, but is better than what Vectronics offers... which is none.
I planned on upgrading my Sig Kilo 8K to a set of Binos, and while the Vector X HUD looks AMAZING, the information displayed on the Sig Kilo line to also detailed and should meet almost all requirements. So I might pick up one of these new 10Ks.
18 months ago I got a set that was demo'd at a nrl hunter match for pretty dang cheap.
I don’t even notice the blue. And best range finder I’ve ever use
Video, no idea who this guy is
Pros
The dope recall feature is huge
Ranging & firing solution looks very fast
Stores lots of ballistics profiles
Multiple reticles
Cons
Lenses look slightly cool (nowhere near Gen 1), optical quality TBD
Projected reticle, not etched
No milling reticle
Pros
The dope recall feature is huge
Ranging & firing solution looks very fast
Stores lots of ballistics profiles
Multiple reticles
Cons
Lenses look slightly cool (nowhere near Gen 1), optical quality TBD
Projected reticle, not etched
No milling reticle
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The glass quality in the Gen 1 were noticeably better than the 3k. The real upgrade in the 10k was all the sensors and having AB elite onboard without having to have the kestrel. Some seriously incredible features like the compass integration with Basemap.
ETA: and the fastest lasing time made the 10k a must have.
The lasing time between the 3k and the gen1 10k is like 0-60 times between a Porsche and lifted Jeep wrangler.
I didn't realize the gen 2s don't come with a wind meter, so plan accordingly. Otherwise, the glass looks awesome. They also give you a 50% off code if you'd like to pick up the sig/marsupial harness instead of the MOLLE pouch that comes with the kilos
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Should've clarified that bit. It's a 50% off code for the sig/marsupial bino harness on the Sig site. The molle pouch is nice but I figure a lot of people will want the actual harness instead.
The glass is a major part of the upgrade. The Gen 1 and Gen 2 glass don't compare.
I don't have any of those on hand, but I've tried the ELs. The ELs may have slightly better glass, but the software/data presentation isn't even close to the Sig. The Sig is amazingly quick and displays all the data your heart could ever desire all at once. IMO, the real competition is going to be between the Vectronix and the Sig. I wish the Area 419 comparison video came out a week later, so the 10K G2 was in it. I'm willing to put the glass up against any of the leaders- especially for $1500 less.
A419 teased the Gen 2 Sigs in their video when referencing the Gen 1's. They also didn't compare lasers at all...which is a pretty important detail in LASER rangefinding bino's. The A419 video was a decent start but what it's really going to come down to is the glass quality AND the laser performance of the Gen 2 10k's vs the Vector's.
Those of us that have been using these in find/range/engage matches have been following all this pretty closely because on a skylined target the difference between a hit or a miss is being able to ping the actual plate...not the T-post, not the hill in front or behind but the actual face of the target.
In my opinion it's now between the Sig 10K gen 2's and the Vectronix Vectors, everyone else is playing for a distant 3rd place.
We know sig nailed the laser/display/software already with the gen 1's so if it's an actual optical UPGRADE on the Gen 2's and not just a lack of blue tint they will be strong contenders, especially if they are improving the warranty. It also doesn't hurt that they are out first.
vector x has reticle and mag options and sig 10k has better laser
The blue glass is really not the issue for me… I’ve had these things since they came out and I’ve used them in all sorts of different configurations. They do work incredibly well.
Comparing the glass, I’m not so sure the glass is the best glass out there, but it doesn’t seem to be anywhere near the worst glass. If it got better with the GEN2, well that would just make the Sig that much more attractive.
I would have expected that the vectronix has more or less the same laser as the Sig, and that the only real update is that they are now providing a decent laser coupled with AB elite.
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