hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks!
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Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
Too early for popcorn for me, but I have a good, strong cup of coffe in hand!!
To the OP...WOW...where to begin.
First off, less typing...more searching/reading!! There is a wealth of good information on this site if you are seriously looking to get into long range, precision rifle shooting. Everything you could want to know from quality equipment to training to ammo/reloading and beyond can be found here. Before posting a question like the one you posted, you probably ought to have a good read of the mission of this site, other threads that might apply to or otherwise answer your questions, and then determine if you really want to post something like what you just posted. A link to the search engine is located in my sig line below.
Second, coming on here with your first post and talking about "sniper for long range" use, copying Hathcock's rifle, etc., not to mention the lack of spelling, grammar, puntuation, etc. in your post screams that you are either an immature, socially awkward kid that needs to spend more time studying in school and/or getting laid (if you aren't a kid...no worries...the comment applies to adults too), or that you are in the wrong place on the Internet to be posting a question like this.
Good luck and Godspeed!! I have a feeling that this thread isn't going to get any prettier from here on out!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
Too early for popcorn for me, but I have a good, strong cup of coffe in hand!!
To the OP...WOW...where to begin.
First off, less typing...more searching/reading!! There is a wealth of good information on this site if you are seriously looking to get into long range, precision rifle shooting. Everything you could want to know from quality equipment to training to ammo/reloading and beyond can be found here. Before posting a question like the one you posted, you probably ought to have a good read of the mission of this site, other threads that might apply to or otherwise answer your questions, and then determine if you really want to post something like what you just posted. A link to the search engine is located in my sig line below.
Second, coming on here with your first post and talking about "sniper for long range" use, copying Hathcock's rifle, etc., not to mention the lack of spelling, grammar, puntuation, etc. in your post screams that you are either an immature, socially awkward kid that needs to spend more time studying in school and/or getting laid (if you aren't a kid...no worries...the comment applies to adults too), or that you are in the wrong place on the Internet to be posting a question like this.
Good luck and Godspeed!! I have a feeling that this thread isn't going to get any prettier from here on out!!!
Re: Sniper for long range
Mostly all the above is just their way of saying Hello. Don't let it bother you most are like red headed step kids. Just beat them till they give ya what your looking for! If ya stay long enough you'll get your chance to poke them in the eye too. I need a piece of floss I got popcorn in my teeth again!
Mostly all the above is just their way of saying Hello. Don't let it bother you most are like red headed step kids. Just beat them till they give ya what your looking for! If ya stay long enough you'll get your chance to poke them in the eye too. I need a piece of floss I got popcorn in my teeth again!
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bubb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't let it bother you most are like red headed step kids.</div></div> Hey... I resemble that remark! Except for the "kid" though. At least I'm not a ginger.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bubb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't let it bother you most are like red headed step kids.</div></div> Hey... I resemble that remark! Except for the "kid" though. At least I'm not a ginger.
Re: Sniper for long range
Where to begin?
I just finished my first cup of coffee, so I feel well prepared to join in.
A "sniper kind of rifle" is vague at best. Since you reference GySgt. Carlos Hathcock's Winchester and you have two other milsurp rifles I will assume that you are interested in Military Sniper Rifles. If you think $1400 is a lot of money, then you are in for a world of dissapointment. There are military Sniper Rifle replicas available for less than that (M1903, Mosin, etc) but they are not on the same level as a M70, M40, M40A1, etc.
I hope you are just looking for a scoped bolt action rifle. If that is true then there are piles and piles of posts about good rifles and optics for every price range.
A couple of things to nudge you into the light:
1. A SNIPER RIFLE is a term used to describe a rifle that has been pressed into service to hunt people. If you are not hunting people, it's not a SNIPER RIFLE. Alternately a Sniper Rifle can be a rifle that was designed and intended by the manufacturer for hunting people. See a pattern here?
2. Fill out your profile. If you can't be bothered to give us a little info about yourself, then we generally can't be bothered to answer your questions. It's a two way street.
3. There are many, many knowledgeable folks on here from every aspect of precision rifle shooting. Stick around, read a lot and post little and you will learn much. Piss everyone off and your name will be added to the wall of shame.
Where to begin?
I just finished my first cup of coffee, so I feel well prepared to join in.
A "sniper kind of rifle" is vague at best. Since you reference GySgt. Carlos Hathcock's Winchester and you have two other milsurp rifles I will assume that you are interested in Military Sniper Rifles. If you think $1400 is a lot of money, then you are in for a world of dissapointment. There are military Sniper Rifle replicas available for less than that (M1903, Mosin, etc) but they are not on the same level as a M70, M40, M40A1, etc.
I hope you are just looking for a scoped bolt action rifle. If that is true then there are piles and piles of posts about good rifles and optics for every price range.
A couple of things to nudge you into the light:
1. A SNIPER RIFLE is a term used to describe a rifle that has been pressed into service to hunt people. If you are not hunting people, it's not a SNIPER RIFLE. Alternately a Sniper Rifle can be a rifle that was designed and intended by the manufacturer for hunting people. See a pattern here?
2. Fill out your profile. If you can't be bothered to give us a little info about yourself, then we generally can't be bothered to answer your questions. It's a two way street.
3. There are many, many knowledgeable folks on here from every aspect of precision rifle shooting. Stick around, read a lot and post little and you will learn much. Piss everyone off and your name will be added to the wall of shame.
Re: Sniper for long range
It doesn't matter what you have. Get a .22 and get good with it.
That's your first step. Come back in a year or two...
It doesn't matter what you have. Get a .22 and get good with it.
That's your first step. Come back in a year or two...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VYD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It doesn't matter what you have. Get a .22 and get good with it.
That's your first step. Come back in a year or two... </div></div>
Best advice I've seen.
I think of Sniper Rifle as the Sniper's Rifle. The man will make the rifle the rifle will not make the man.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VYD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It doesn't matter what you have. Get a .22 and get good with it.
That's your first step. Come back in a year or two... </div></div>
Best advice I've seen.
I think of Sniper Rifle as the Sniper's Rifle. The man will make the rifle the rifle will not make the man.
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tattoo13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VYD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It doesn't matter what you have. Get a .22 and get good with it.
That's your first step. Come back in a year or two... </div></div>
Best advice I've seen.
I think of Sniper Rifle as the Sniper's Rifle. The man will make the rifle the rifle will not make the man. </div></div>
Ooh, I love the cliche game! Let's do it again!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tattoo13</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VYD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It doesn't matter what you have. Get a .22 and get good with it.
That's your first step. Come back in a year or two... </div></div>
Best advice I've seen.
I think of Sniper Rifle as the Sniper's Rifle. The man will make the rifle the rifle will not make the man. </div></div>
Ooh, I love the cliche game! Let's do it again!
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Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
Go get a 22 bolt action.... practice. If you think 1400 is a lot to spend on a rifle then you really should stick with a decent 22 and glass. Buy up some ammo and learn to be proficient with it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">hello im looking in getting a sniper kind of rifle i already have a m1 garand and a m1 carbine. i was hearing that the 6mm and 7mm are very good ballistics. i was looking at like making a copy of hathcocks rifle winchester model 70 and a 12x uteri scope. but model 70s are like 1400 dollars.. if you have a know a good rifle or a good round lemme know thanks! </div></div>
Go get a 22 bolt action.... practice. If you think 1400 is a lot to spend on a rifle then you really should stick with a decent 22 and glass. Buy up some ammo and learn to be proficient with it.
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I think most of you have been 'duped'. I was on earlier and this character came on the should box and said something to the effect of, "I LOVE M1A'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and that was it. 12 more exclamation marks then needed and in all capitals to make it appear that he is yelling(dramatic effect I'd assume, he must be really excited about it).
If I were a bettin' man(which I'm not), I'd say we have a troll from Barfcom or some other adversary camp. Similar to the Viet Minh in the early 50s, sneaking over from China, hitting the French in Indochina, then sneaking back before anyone knew what was going on or could react to it.
I think most of you have been 'duped'. I was on earlier and this character came on the should box and said something to the effect of, "I LOVE M1A'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and that was it. 12 more exclamation marks then needed and in all capitals to make it appear that he is yelling(dramatic effect I'd assume, he must be really excited about it).
If I were a bettin' man(which I'm not), I'd say we have a troll from Barfcom or some other adversary camp. Similar to the Viet Minh in the early 50s, sneaking over from China, hitting the French in Indochina, then sneaking back before anyone knew what was going on or could react to it.
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Im gonna assume you arent a troll and actually respond.
You are obviously a n00b. But we all were n00bs once. Heres a hint: never ever ever ever use the word "sniper rifle" again...this isnt call of duty. Next, long range shooting is expensive. If you arent ready to spend a couple thousand dollars on a rifle, bases, rings, scope, bipod, reloading gear, ammo, and if youre like me I have to drive an hour + to find a place to shoot go back to playing black ops or go buy and airsoft "sniper rifle".
You say that you have a couple center fire rifles. If so you probably dont need to use a 22 to get familiar with shooting techniques.
About a year ago I wanted to get into precision target/ long range shooting.
I started to find out what I could afford. Here is kinda what my list looked like:
stevens 200 .308---------------------300$
mueller tactical mildot scope--------140$
shooters ridge bipod------------------50$
rings bases---------------------------50$
Cheapest ammo I could find------------13$
That was all the money I had at the time. I didnt want to save. Turns out that I couldnt shoot 6 inch groups at 100 yards with that setup. I had to sell everything. I ended up saving my money and getting something more along the lines of this:
Remington 700 sps---550
Harris bipod---------90
super sniper scope--250
egw base-------------50
burris rings---------60
Mcmillan A4 stock---800
Then I probably spent 200 in reloading equipment and 500 in reloading components which will last me 6-8 months. (and thats shooting 2-5 times a month)
So you might need a reality check, or a job, or both. But thats what youre looking at when you are thinking about getting a "sniper kinda rifle".
I was a n00b once and made alot of costly mistakes so if you want any advise or have any question feel free to PM me.
Im gonna assume you arent a troll and actually respond.
You are obviously a n00b. But we all were n00bs once. Heres a hint: never ever ever ever use the word "sniper rifle" again...this isnt call of duty. Next, long range shooting is expensive. If you arent ready to spend a couple thousand dollars on a rifle, bases, rings, scope, bipod, reloading gear, ammo, and if youre like me I have to drive an hour + to find a place to shoot go back to playing black ops or go buy and airsoft "sniper rifle".
You say that you have a couple center fire rifles. If so you probably dont need to use a 22 to get familiar with shooting techniques.
About a year ago I wanted to get into precision target/ long range shooting.
I started to find out what I could afford. Here is kinda what my list looked like:
stevens 200 .308---------------------300$
mueller tactical mildot scope--------140$
shooters ridge bipod------------------50$
rings bases---------------------------50$
Cheapest ammo I could find------------13$
That was all the money I had at the time. I didnt want to save. Turns out that I couldnt shoot 6 inch groups at 100 yards with that setup. I had to sell everything. I ended up saving my money and getting something more along the lines of this:
Remington 700 sps---550
Harris bipod---------90
super sniper scope--250
egw base-------------50
burris rings---------60
Mcmillan A4 stock---800
Then I probably spent 200 in reloading equipment and 500 in reloading components which will last me 6-8 months. (and thats shooting 2-5 times a month)
So you might need a reality check, or a job, or both. But thats what youre looking at when you are thinking about getting a "sniper kinda rifle".
I was a n00b once and made alot of costly mistakes so if you want any advise or have any question feel free to PM me.
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mean your daddy keeps an M1 Garand in the closet upstairs right?</div></div>
*Grandpa. Father wouldn't be old enough to have been issued one... hahaha...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mean your daddy keeps an M1 Garand in the closet upstairs right?</div></div>
*Grandpa. Father wouldn't be old enough to have been issued one... hahaha...
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kellogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mean your daddy keeps an M1 Garand in the closet upstairs right?</div></div>
*Grandpa. Father wouldn't be old enough to have been issued one... hahaha... </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kellogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You mean your daddy keeps an M1 Garand in the closet upstairs right?</div></div>
*Grandpa. Father wouldn't be old enough to have been issued one... hahaha... </div></div>
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
1. A SNIPER RIFLE is a term used to describe a rifle that has been pressed into service to hunt people. If you are not hunting people, it's not a SNIPER RIFLE. Alternately a Sniper Rifle can be a rifle that was designed and intended by the manufacturer for hunting people. See a pattern here?
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So by this definition I guess a PSL will fit the bill for this guy...
But cpt. obvious provided you excellent advice.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
1. A SNIPER RIFLE is a term used to describe a rifle that has been pressed into service to hunt people. If you are not hunting people, it's not a SNIPER RIFLE. Alternately a Sniper Rifle can be a rifle that was designed and intended by the manufacturer for hunting people. See a pattern here?
</div></div>
But cpt. obvious provided you excellent advice.
Re: Sniper for long range
Guys. Lay off.
We have members in foriegn countries. No need to disrespect a fellow shooter or a future one with a good interest in a great weapon system. If none of you can tell that english ISN'T his first language, then now you know.
Welcome to the Hide chriss880.
Now in response to your search for a rifle. The winchester model 70 wasn't the only rifle that Carlos Hathcock used.
There was also the M14, or M25 to be more precise.
And the Remington 700 series.
Let me know what you decide and I'll try and help you from there.
Guys. Lay off.
We have members in foriegn countries. No need to disrespect a fellow shooter or a future one with a good interest in a great weapon system. If none of you can tell that english ISN'T his first language, then now you know.
Welcome to the Hide chriss880.
Now in response to your search for a rifle. The winchester model 70 wasn't the only rifle that Carlos Hathcock used.
There was also the M14, or M25 to be more precise.
And the Remington 700 series.
Let me know what you decide and I'll try and help you from there.
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Careful. When you ride on such a high horse, you are likely to get swept off by tree limbs.
Careful. When you ride on such a high horse, you are likely to get swept off by tree limbs.
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Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!!
Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!!
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I counted 23 exclamation points in that post. Chill dude.
Did you see my post? Im trying to help you out here, there is no exact answer.
Could you provide some more information?
What are you going to do with this rifle? Hunt? Target shoot? Tactical competition? Bench-rest?
I counted 23 exclamation points in that post. Chill dude.
Did you see my post? Im trying to help you out here, there is no exact answer.
Could you provide some more information?
What are you going to do with this rifle? Hunt? Target shoot? Tactical competition? Bench-rest?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
Dude, relax. There are good answers in this thread already. Sift out the garbage and intake the relevant info. The best so far is to do a bunch of digging around in the treads already on the site and read a lot of what's been hashed out previously.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
Dude, relax. There are good answers in this thread already. Sift out the garbage and intake the relevant info. The best so far is to do a bunch of digging around in the treads already on the site and read a lot of what's been hashed out previously.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
Have given you the option to calm down or a time out....call is now yours.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
Have given you the option to calm down or a time out....call is now yours.
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Ok, what kinda of game do you hunt? Would a 308 do it? or are you hunting elk or something bigger? Do you have a budget in mind?
Ok, what kinda of game do you hunt? Would a 308 do it? or are you hunting elk or something bigger? Do you have a budget in mind?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no bodys helpful around here! can't you just answer the question! i already hunt so hunting would be nice with a long range rifle and i would be using a long range range to target shoot </div></div>
Sent you a PM. Think you might consider looking at what was asked before you continue down this road.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no bodys helpful around here! can't you just answer the question! i already hunt so hunting would be nice with a long range rifle and i would be using a long range range to target shoot </div></div>
Sent you a PM. Think you might consider looking at what was asked before you continue down this road.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
look man. 31 or 13, it dont matter. we have highschool kids on this site that handle themselves better than you. so lets break it down. are you a sniper? in the military or law enforcement? no? ok, there is the answer to a question you never asked or learned. it is not a sniper rifle unles it was issued to you for the task of performing such duties. ok? no matter how closely a rifle is built to resemble a "sniper rifle" its still just that, a copy. everything you asked could have been answered by you reading posts on this forum. anything you could possibly think to ask has already been asked and answered so many times that when the next newb comes in and does it again, he gets what you got. so to put it in a way that you can easily grasp, READ !!!!!! READ!!!!!! READ!!!!!! AND THEN READ MORE.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
look man. 31 or 13, it dont matter. we have highschool kids on this site that handle themselves better than you. so lets break it down. are you a sniper? in the military or law enforcement? no? ok, there is the answer to a question you never asked or learned. it is not a sniper rifle unles it was issued to you for the task of performing such duties. ok? no matter how closely a rifle is built to resemble a "sniper rifle" its still just that, a copy. everything you asked could have been answered by you reading posts on this forum. anything you could possibly think to ask has already been asked and answered so many times that when the next newb comes in and does it again, he gets what you got. so to put it in a way that you can easily grasp, READ !!!!!! READ!!!!!! READ!!!!!! AND THEN READ MORE.
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
I'd climb out on a limb and guess English is his only language.
The members here can and ARE very helpful but you need to do your homework too.
I understand you are upset by some of the comments here, myself included. You have shown, at least to me, you have some growing up to do before you can handle yourself in a professional manner and engage most of these boards’ members in conversation.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
I'd climb out on a limb and guess English is his only language.
The members here can and ARE very helpful but you need to do your homework too.
I understand you are upset by some of the comments here, myself included. You have shown, at least to me, you have some growing up to do before you can handle yourself in a professional manner and engage most of these boards’ members in conversation.
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: subwofer2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
I'd climb out on a limb and guess English is his only language.
The members here can and ARE very helpful but you need to do your homework too.
I understand you are upset by some of the comments here, myself included. You have shown, at least to me, you have some growing up to do before you can handle yourself in a professional manner and engage most of these boards’ members in conversation.
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im upset? just read all te comments below mine! i dont think you should be telling me i should grow up when alot of these comments have absolutely nothing to do with this post! talk to them before me i just wanted a answer and instead they go on a rampage about my english? not the place for it stick it!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: subwofer2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
I'd climb out on a limb and guess English is his only language.
The members here can and ARE very helpful but you need to do your homework too.
I understand you are upset by some of the comments here, myself included. You have shown, at least to me, you have some growing up to do before you can handle yourself in a professional manner and engage most of these boards’ members in conversation.
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im upset? just read all te comments below mine! i dont think you should be telling me i should grow up when alot of these comments have absolutely nothing to do with this post! talk to them before me i just wanted a answer and instead they go on a rampage about my english? not the place for it stick it!
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
my popcorn is out after this as well...
1400 to spend? I would look at a savage 12fv or similar. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/ in .223 remington to keep the cost of ammo down as much as possible. put a tasco super sniper on it, and learn to reload. that should keep you set long enough to decide if you want to upgrade, or realize that the gun will just sit in a safe and the m1 garand get you all the distance you will need.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright jerks! im 31 f***ing years old and I DO OWN A M1 GARAND AND A M1 CARBINE SO F OFF! another thing is i don't Care What the crap you Call it! its a sniper rifle!!! its a long range rifle!!! who cares what you call it!! and why Can't you Just help me so i do not have 100 posts and 1 of them are good!! you are all jerks just answer it!!! and if you can't then shut up!!!!!!! </div></div>
my popcorn is out after this as well...
1400 to spend? I would look at a savage 12fv or similar. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/ in .223 remington to keep the cost of ammo down as much as possible. put a tasco super sniper on it, and learn to reload. that should keep you set long enough to decide if you want to upgrade, or realize that the gun will just sit in a safe and the m1 garand get you all the distance you will need.
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whitetail deer mostly sometime i go up to alaska for elk but a .308 would do fine. and for the rifle itself excluding scope ammo and everything else i was hoping less then 1200, if its a little more i can stretch. </div></div>
dang man, you can get a remington 700 sps tactical for around 500, optics (vortex, millet, super sniper, bushnell 3200) around 200-400, and bipods are pretty cheap.
If you are serious about accuracy handloading is a must.
Heres the rifle I bought.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx
It shot around .75 moa out of the box, with an hs precision stock it shoots around .5 moa, about .4 moa out of my mcmillan.
Heres another sps,
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx
this ones barrel is shorter, I opted for the 26 inch barrel because I wanted to get the most range out of it.
Savage makes a great rifle too, Im not to sure about the stevens 200 tho. They are abit cheaper than the remingtons, but I dont care for the bolt lift, the 700 is much smoother.
If you like military rifles you will be interested to know that all the m40 rifles, and the army m24 are based of the remington 700 action.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whitetail deer mostly sometime i go up to alaska for elk but a .308 would do fine. and for the rifle itself excluding scope ammo and everything else i was hoping less then 1200, if its a little more i can stretch. </div></div>
dang man, you can get a remington 700 sps tactical for around 500, optics (vortex, millet, super sniper, bushnell 3200) around 200-400, and bipods are pretty cheap.
If you are serious about accuracy handloading is a must.
Heres the rifle I bought.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx
It shot around .75 moa out of the box, with an hs precision stock it shoots around .5 moa, about .4 moa out of my mcmillan.
Heres another sps,
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx
this ones barrel is shorter, I opted for the 26 inch barrel because I wanted to get the most range out of it.
Savage makes a great rifle too, Im not to sure about the stevens 200 tho. They are abit cheaper than the remingtons, but I dont care for the bolt lift, the 700 is much smoother.
If you like military rifles you will be interested to know that all the m40 rifles, and the army m24 are based of the remington 700 action.
Re: Sniper for long range
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whitetail deer mostly sometime i go up to alaska for elk but a .308 would do fine. and for the rifle itself excluding scope ammo and everything else i was hoping less then 1200, if its a little more i can stretch. </div></div>
If you were going shoot at a paper target at 400yds with ten shots of .308 ammo off the shelf, what group size do you want? Would a 10" - 12" group be good enough for you?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whitetail deer mostly sometime i go up to alaska for elk but a .308 would do fine. and for the rifle itself excluding scope ammo and everything else i was hoping less then 1200, if its a little more i can stretch. </div></div>
If you were going shoot at a paper target at 400yds with ten shots of .308 ammo off the shelf, what group size do you want? Would a 10" - 12" group be good enough for you?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why do you guys keep bringing up popcorn? </div></div>
what else is more enjoyable w/ all this entertainment? would you prefer we snack on M and Ms???????????????????????
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chriss880</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why do you guys keep bringing up popcorn? </div></div>
what else is more enjoyable w/ all this entertainment? would you prefer we snack on M and Ms???????????????????????
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