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Am I a B?New brass for a "serious" match? Your B class scores should be more of a concern.
Am I a B?I did just fine at the last state championship.
And new brass is certainly a necessity if you're shooting at any Level II+ match. I'm not traveling 1000+ miles to a large match and not reducing one of the variables that means the difference between winning and losing.![]()
You two dipshits take your pissing match somewhere else.
Tbh, I load all my match ammo in 1-2 weekends for the year and any practice ammo as needed. I have no desire to own a 1100/1050 (2 year warranty and expensive caliber conversions) and I sold my Mark 7 because it was a POS. Large volume with the 650/750 has been fine for my needs for 20+ years.I've spent too much time on BEF, that's the sort of advice B and C shooters throw around. Not to mention 650/750 aren't used by most of the high volume serious shooters. If you have to worry about your reloads you should probably fix your process. Your "serious match" ammo shouldn't be any different than all the rest of your ammo.
So?I've loaded 200k+ plus rounds on a 650. There's quite a bit of bullshit suggestions in this thread. You don't know the difference either.
So?
Doesn’t mean your reading comprehension is up to par.
Like I said, go start your own thread if you want to tell us all about how great you are.
I’ve come across a 750 for sale. Has the 9x19 and the 6.5 man bun conversion kits and a set of Hornady 6.5 dies.
Also comes with 1700 primers and all the OEM accessories.
There’s a roller handle installed too, but other than that, it’s a factory setup.
The guy selling has pumped out about 300 round with it and doesn’t use it anymore.
Other than an Inline Fabrication mount, is there any other things that helped make it easier to use the press? Meaning make it more ergonomically friendly?
I don’t want to dump a ton of money into it as I don’t shoot enough to justify the extra costs quite yet.
Initially, I’ll only load pistol rounds on it. Start with 9 and then maybe buy another setup for 40.
Is there anything you learned that was an “oh shit” moment?
Here you offer some actual insight, before that you were just being a jackass.I'll spell it out because it may help someone else. Iron out your pistol ammo process instead of wasting money and time on stuff like sorting brass, trimming pistol brass (wtf?), case gaging loaded ammo, or using special brass. The 650/750 doesn't lend itself to swagging brass despite products like the Swage-It (I have one, it sucks). Roll sizing first really improves how well a 650 works but isn't strictly necessary. Cull stepped brass, etc. Don't rely on alarms, look in every case. The list goes on, this is process, not aftermarket parts.
According to the RCBS instructions…………..flare should be the bullet diameter plus .030”Wow, that got out of hand quick lol.
Back to gun BS: I think it's mostly about the process and setting things up just right rather than needing gadgets or needing to buy fancier shit.
At different points, over the years I've had my ass kicked by quite a few B's, A's, M's and even GM's who loaded all of their rounds on a 650/750. If you set them up right, forget those delusions you once had about caliber changes, and have the patience to dial them in, they'll reliably pump out lots of good, or even great, ammo.
Along with setting up the crimp die more like a "bell removal die", the other side of the dark magic is the flare/bell process... Even if you're not ready for a Mr. Bullet Feeder, youwantneed the MBF powder funnel (you can buy just the funnel here: https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/mr-bulletfeeder-powder-funnel), it's 1000% better than the Dillon piece. The trick is to set it up so it only flares the cases just barely enough to accept a bullet, the minimum amount of flare you can get by with (whether dropping bullets with an MBF or placing them by hand), no more.
As someone getting older and slower than I'd like, I shoot more PRS than USPSA these days, but I've gotten better at making shitloads of 9mm than I ever was when I was really burning through it (back when I thought spending $1+ on a single rifle round was crazy lol).
The Dillon flair/bell funnel seems to stick no matter how much or little I flair the case mouth. Brass is dry tumbled with nufinish and mineral spirits. Clean and slippery. Does the DAA part in your link solve the sticking issue? Because that might be the best $40 ever spent for reloading.Wow, that got out of hand quick lol.
Back to gun BS: I think it's mostly about the process and setting things up just right rather than needing gadgets or needing to buy fancier shit.
At different points, over the years I've had my ass kicked by quite a few B's, A's, M's and even GM's who loaded all of their rounds on a 650/750. If you set them up right, forget those delusions you once had about caliber changes, and have the patience to dial them in, they'll reliably pump out lots of good, or even great, ammo.
Along with setting up the crimp die more like a "bell removal die", the other side of the dark magic is the flare/bell process... Even if you're not ready for a Mr. Bullet Feeder, youwantneed the MBF powder funnel (you can buy just the funnel here: https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/mr-bulletfeeder-powder-funnel), it's 1000% better than the Dillon piece. The trick is to set it up so it only flares the cases just barely enough to accept a bullet, the minimum amount of flare you can get by with (whether dropping bullets with an MBF or placing them by hand), no more.
As someone getting older and slower than I'd like, I shoot more PRS than USPSA these days, but I've gotten better at making shitloads of 9mm than I ever was when I was really burning through it (back when I thought spending $1+ on a single rifle round was crazy lol).
FWIW, I have a Mr. Bulletfeeder, that came with it's own "flare/bell funnel". Brass would stick to it, so I chucked it up in the lathe and polished it with a Scotchbrite pad. Took care of the sticking problem.The Dillon flair/bell funnel seems to stick no matter how much or little I flair the case mouth. Brass is dry tumbled with nufinish and mineral spirits. Clean and slippery. Does the DAA part in your link solve the sticking issue? Because that might be the best $40 ever spent for reloading.
According to the RCBS instructions…………..flare should be the bullet diameter plus .030”
So the OD of the flare is .386.
That seems to be plenty, and I could probably get away with less. But after this thing is up and running, I may modify it.
I’ve only loaded maybe 75 rounds.
Waiting on more brass to arrive.
The Dillon flair/bell funnel seems to stick no matter how much or little I flair the case mouth. Brass is dry tumbled with nufinish and mineral spirits. Clean and slippery. Does the DAA part in your link solve the sticking issue? Because that might be the best $40 ever spent for reloading.
If using a bullet feeder, does the larger flare assist in keeping the bullet where it needs to be until seated?Yes, for the most part, @Threadcutter308 mentioned the scotchbrite which is what some seem to need (but not mine).
@Cascade Hemi nailed it on the flare IMO, it’s more of a “feel thing” than a number, and trying to even measure it correctly is sketchy at best. It’s much easier to set up by feel IMO (kinda like the crimp die and a Hundo), there’s a point where you’ve left yourself just enough flare to where a bullet will stay put as the shell plate advances… if dropping bullets on top is super easy and doesn’t need to be deliberate, then you’ve probably got too much flare going lol.
Yes, the bulletfeeder comes with it's own powder funnel that replces the Dillon and yes, it flares as well.If using a bullet feeder, does the larger flare assist in keeping the bullet where it needs to be until seated?
Or is minimal flare acceptable?
I haven’t used a bullet feeder but am looking to purchase one eventually.
If using a bullet feeder, does the larger flare assist in keeping the bullet where it needs to be until seated?
Or is minimal flare acceptable?
I haven’t used a bullet feeder but am looking to purchase one eventually.
Keep in mind that when adding a Bulletfeeder, it will consume 1 of 5 positions in the toolhead. If you are using seperate seater and crimp dies, then you will have to give up your powder check.If using a bullet feeder, does the larger flare assist in keeping the bullet where it needs to be until seated?
Or is minimal flare acceptable?
I haven’t used a bullet feeder but am looking to purchase one eventually.
Keep in mind that when adding a Bulletfeeder, it will consume 1 of 5 positions in the toolhead. If you are using seperate seater and crimp dies, then you will have to give up your powder check.
I use a combo seater/crimper die from Lee and it works quite well. It gives me the benefit of being able to use my powder check.
Short stroke and then getting distracted can cause it (squib). It's how a dude lost his fingers and shrapnel to his face in an Area match. I wrapped that dude's hand up while also dealing with the 3 other competitors that passed out from the blood. What a shit show.IMHO there’s no need for a powder check on the 750 with 9mm, powder drop in station #2 is right up front where one can see and if using something like N320 or Sport Pistol a double charge will spill over and cause a mess you’ll catch immediately… faster powders like Titegroup, where a double charge will fit in a case, is a little more sketchy, but one has to almost be a total idiot or doing it on purpose to double charge a case on a 750 (JMHO).
I've got 650's, not that that is probably any more justification for a powder check than on a 750 based on your statement(s). I run Autodrives and things can go sideways in a hurry if you're not watching things like a hawk.IMHO there’s no need for a powder check on the 750 with 9mm, powder drop in station #2 is right up front where one can see and if using something like N320 or Sport Pistol a double charge will spill over and cause a mess you’ll catch immediately… faster powders like Titegroup, where a double charge will fit in a case, is a little more sketchy, but one has to almost be a total idiot or doing it on purpose to double charge a case on a 750 (JMHO).
I’m running the RCBS seating/crimp die so I’m only consuming 3 of the 5 stations.Keep in mind that when adding a Bulletfeeder, it will consume 1 of 5 positions in the toolhead. If you are using seperate seater and crimp dies, then you will have to give up your powder check.
I use a combo seater/crimper die from Lee and it works quite well. It gives me the benefit of being able to use my powder check.
Short stroke and then getting distracted can cause it (squib). It's how a dude lost his fingers and shrapnel to his face in an Area match. I wrapped that dude's hand up while also dealing with the 3 other competitors that passed out from the blood. What a shit show.
I personally don't run a powder check since a double charge will be spilling like you said (N320 for minor loads and SWMP for major loads). But I do visually check each case for powder before the MrBF.
Dang, that sounds horrible.
I use my Mark 1 eyeballs as well, when loading on the 750 there’s a subconscious trance I go into where I watch the fresh primer going in then watch the empty primer arm coming back while taking a look at the powder that was just dropped in the case…
Honestly, if there were enough stations, I’d always want to error on the side of safety and I would run a powder check too.
Just get a Dillon Casefeeder with a Double Alpha case plate. It's super fast. Plus you get Dillon's warranty.Has anyone used one of these?
Looks like it would work fine and it’s got a two year warranty.
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I have the Dillon casefeeders, no complaints. I haven't tried the DAA case plate, but I hear it's the shizzle.Just get a Dillon Casefeeder with a Double Alpha case plate. It's super fast. Plus you get Dillon's warranty.
It nearly double (dare I say... Triple?) the output of the casefeeder.I the Dillon casefeeders, no complaints. I haven't tried the DAA case plate, but I hear it's the shizzle.
Yep, I have a friend who put it on his Dillon prep machine (CP2000 ?). He may have even put one on his rollsizer too. Anyway, he's the one that old me about how happy he was with it/them.It nearly double (dare I say... Triple?) the output of the casefeeder.
It's great for automation or a rollsizer.