Keep in mind I wrote that before these scopes had really hit the market so none of us were aware of how good or how bad the Mark 5 was, I also made my comment in response to the author of the article who mentioned Leupold was "bringing the heat" with the 5-25x56 when the market is already flooded with really good 5-25 scopes, a better expression would be "catching up" but certainly not bringing the heat. All that to say I did purchase a Mark 5 3.6-18x44 and while my copy was not as impressive optically as I hoped I was very impressed with their turrets. I am not a "touchy feely" guy when it comes to turrets, my basis is - can I click through without looking at the turret and know where I'm at, most scopes can do that for me, even the sub $1000 PST II and XTR II have decent turret feel to me, but the Mark 5 turrets are probably my favorite if I have to rank turrets (among scopes I've used which have been many), the spacing was ideal and the clicks were very distinct and I loved the zero lock, not just a stop but an actual lock, very nice design. If Leupold would come out with a Christmas Tree reticle that was on par with the competition I'd have to give serious consideration to the Mark 5, but until they bring out that reticle and reduce the price of their illumination (which puts their scopes above the price of much of their competition which all come with illumination by default) then sadly the Mark 5 will not be adorning any of my rifles.