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Is this with or without sun shade? I was going to order the xxL Leupold today for my MK5 5-25x56Anyone found a good neoprene scope cover that will fit the 5-25x56?? I orderd Leupolds XXL one but its too small...
Is this with or without sun shade? I was going to order the xxL Leupold today for my MK5 5-25x56
Without. You can stretch it really far to where it almost rips and it will go on. It barely covers the side knobs too.
I run the 3-18 on my Ruger precision rimfire. Great 22 scope in my opinion, especially for NRL/Prs 22 matches. Parallax isn’t a problem.Has anyone used a 3-18 on a 22lr? I read some people saying they can parallax it much closer than the advertised 75 yards.
Could you go 18x with a target at 25m/y without parallax present?I run the 3-18 on my Ruger precision rimfire. Great 22 scope in my opinion, especially for NRL/Prs 22 matches. Parallax isn’t a problem.
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i am not sure what you are asking (parallax or focus).Could you go 18x with a target at 25m/y without parallax present?
I just got the Mark5, illuminated T3. I don’t have much experience behind it yet but I’m not sure that I’m sold on the reticle. The reticle itself is a little hard for me to pick up on low power, even with the illumination. Is there anything in particular you want to know about the illuminated T3?Can anyone speak to the T3 illuminated? I'm considering picking one up.
3-18 or 5-25?I just got the Mark5, illuminated T3. I don’t have much experience behind it yet but I’m not sure that I’m sold on the reticle. The reticle itself is a little hard for me to pick up on low power, even with the illumination. Is there anything in particular you want to know about the illuminated T3?
I'm looking at the 3-18 to eventually put on my LMT MWS, assuming I ever get it.I just got the Mark5, illuminated T3. I don’t have much experience behind it yet but I’m not sure that I’m sold on the reticle. The reticle itself is a little hard for me to pick up on low power, even with the illumination. Is there anything in particular you want to know about the illuminated T3?
I got the 5x25. You can make out the main crosshair and wind dots decently at low power. But the rest of the mil marks is hard to see for me below maybe 12x. I am also looking through it in a heavily dark timber environment. I imagine it’s better in other environments. The illumination is decent. At the lower levels it just illuminates the center dots. At full illumination it lights up the whole reticle. Although the illumination is not bright enough to pick up at low power during the day. I’ll try taking pictures with the illumination on later. Hope this helps.I'm looking at the 3-18 to eventually put on my LMT MWS, assuming I ever get it.
Mostly want to know how well it lights up and how easy it is to see at low magnification.
$500 is a lot, but if I understand correctly the reason for the steep price increase is that the Mark 5HD is waterproof down to +/- 50-60 meters & adding electronics makes it much more difficult to achieve. I haven’t tried, but I don’t know if a Vortex will take that kind of water torture test. If the Vortex failed I know they have a great warranty. So many fail it’s easy to see thier warranty is great. It gets a lot of use.$500 for illumination is not being competitive, especially when it's standard on everything from a Leapers to a Razor.
If Mil/Vet/LE/ or I think NRA instructors their discount is amazing. It’s hard not to buy one. I don’t know if their warranty is good. I’ve been using them for 40+ years & never sent one in. I can vouch for Vortex’s warranty. I’ve had many friends need to use it and they do stand behind it.Leupold rep told my friend at SHOT that they're hands down better than the Mark 6 on design alone and glass is closer to the Mark 8.
I've seen the 5-25 TMR for $2000/2100, CCH for $2200, and H59/Tremor3 for $2300 all without illum of course. Illum puts it in the $2500-2800 range.
Vortex is rated down to 100 meters.$500 is a lot, but if I understand correctly the reason for the steep price increase is that the Mark 5HD is waterproof down to +/- 50-60 meters & adding electronics makes it much more difficult to achieve. I haven’t tried, but I don’t know if a Vortex will take that kind of water torture test. If the Vortex failed I know they have a great warranty. So many fail it’s easy to see thier warranty is great. It gets a lot of use.
No illumination may tie into why such a cost increase on Leupold. I can see where it adds costs having more electronics waterproof. Not sure of exact depth of Mark 5HD. Also, have never held the venom. Thanks for info.Vortex is rated down to 100 meters.
I know a guy who does all the mil standards testing on optics for SOCOM.
He said the new Vortex Venom is the most waterproofed scope he has ever tested. Obviously it doesn't have illumination but it prove Vortex knows a thing or two about waterproofing.
I wonder in what world one would need a scope (besides military use) to be rated at 100 meters? Seems to me alot of military contracts the "specs" for products like scopes are different than a civilian modelVortex is rated down to 100 meters.
I know a guy who does all the mil standards testing on optics for SOCOM.
He said the new Vortex Venom is the most waterproofed scope he has ever tested. Obviously it doesn't have illumination but it prove Vortex knows a thing or two about waterproofing.
Well, lots of guys having boating accidents recently...I wonder in what world one would need a scope (besides military use) to be rated at 100 meters? Seems to me alot of military contracts the "specs" for products like scopes are different than a civilian model
Haha, I almost spit my coffee out with your answer. made my day!!Well, lots of guys having boating accidents recently...
So they both failed. Are there other examples of this, or just their samples?Rokslide evaluated 2 of them, one 5-25 and one 3.6-18. The reviews are easily searchable by “rokslide field evaluation mk5”
I know of 2 that went back for turret work and have an acquaintance that has seen a few more go down.So they both failed. Are there other examples of this, or just their samples?
Six NF RMA’s, whoa.I’m usually a nightforce guy. I have several, and I do not baby my gear. I’ve RMA’d six nightforce scopes. I’ve even had to return an elcan 1-4 for service, and they say those are absurdly tough.
All I want is a scope to track consistently, accurately, and hold zero through long periods of use. I’m very curious about these scopes because the specs, especially the 3.6-18, is very appealing for a midrange optic.
Lol rma 6 scopes, return an elcan….I’m usually a nightforce guy. I have several, and I do not baby my gear. I’ve RMA’d six nightforce scopes. I’ve even had to return an elcan 1-4 for service, and they say those are absurdly tough.
All I want is a scope to track consistently, accurately, and hold zero through long periods of use. I’m very curious about these scopes because the specs, especially the 3.6-18, is very appealing for a midrange optic.
Majority of the NF RMA’s were for issues identified that did not impair absolutely critical function of the scope, but were nonetheless obvious issues. Cracks in glass, frozen/inoperable magnification adjustment, floating debris in the optic tube, etc. All across ATACR and NX8 models.Lol rma 6 scopes, return an elcan….
Man internet is crazy these days.
The first ATACR 4-16 I got in 2015 got swapped for a new unit by NF due to what looked like oil droplets inside the scope.Majority of the NF RMA’s were for issues identified that did not impair absolutely critical function of the scope, but were nonetheless obvious issues. Cracks in glass, frozen/inoperable magnification adjustment, floating debris in the optic tube, etc. All across ATACR and NX8 models.
I liked the Mark 5 3.6-18x44 and plan to test one when the opportunity presents.
I am probably in the minority here, but I think moving to a 35mm tube is a good move for Leupold. That gives them some uniformity with Mark 8 (and I think Mark 6 will be either re-deisgned or made LE/Mil only option at some point, like the Mark 4). Also, keep in mind that Leupold also makes and sells mounts, so they can do whatever diameter they want if they are so inclined. Either way, there are enough 35mm mounts out there.
The outstanding feature of the Mark 5 is still compactness, and I suspect that the turrets have everything they learned on the Mark 6 incorporated into them. If I were to be a betting man, I would bet that the 3.6-18x44 Mark 5 will outperform the 3-18x44 Mark 6 if you put them side by side. Also, while illumination is still expensive, it is not as expensive as on the Mark 6.
I think they need to do more with reticles, but it is workable as is.
I plan to test one.
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The LRTSi will still smoke this Leupold, not sure why anyone would waste money on this company who has exactly 2 products even worth owning (deltapoint and CQBSS). Everything else gets smoked by someone better, cheaper, more reliable,ect.
When you can get an illuminated LRSTI for $1100 that has a better reticle, better tracking, illumination and probably better glass at almost half the price, its not even worth entertaining.
You must have gotten a bad LRTS because on the average the two are pretty close glass wise.This didn't age well. Unless the examples I've seen didn't represent the whole, the lrtsi glass is like looking through a cloud compared to the mark 5.