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CCH (combat competition hunting) reticle would work too. As you zoom out the stadia become triangles pointing towards the center.What's the preferred reticle for hunting? I don't have much time behind either MOA or MIL but there is a preference to MIL.
I think the TMK Illuminated is the ticket but it is $400 more which I don't think justifies the benefit of getting the floating dot. So I am leaning towards the PR-1 MOA but it's in MOA. How much of an issue would this be if I were to later move to MILs?
TMK nonilluminated too thin for hunting?
Also, anyone experience issues hunting within 0-75 yards with the parallax minimum of 75 on this scope?
Tmr illum and non illum have the same thickness. The illum version has a 0.1 floating dot in the center vs the non illum having a 0.1 mil open center. I'd take the dot all day long. I have 3 mk5hd scopes, none tmr. I have an illum PR1-MOA 3.6-18, non illum PR1-MOA 5-25, and a CCH 7-35. The illum pr1-moa is heavier reticle than the non illum and is very usuble at the lowest end of mag.
Tmr illum and non illum have the same thickness. The illum version has a 0.1 floating dot in the center vs the non illum having a 0.1 mil open center. I'd take the dot all day long. I have 3 mk5hd scopes, none tmr. I have an illum PR1-MOA 3.6-18, non illum PR1-MOA 5-25, and a CCH 7-35. The illum pr1-moa is heavier reticle than the non illum and is very usuble at the lowest end of mag. I really wish they'd make a pr1-mil rericle with 0.2 hash and floating 0.05 mil dot. Well see if they follow through! The mk5hd is an excellent hunting scope due to its low light performance and compact dimensions. View attachment 7304560View attachment 7304562View attachment 7304563View attachment 7304564
I just bought the 3-18 Illuminated TMR. I just mounted it on my 300 PRC hunting rig and just noticed the 2nd rev indicator is not popping up on the second rev. I took the turret off and really can’t see anything wrong, the indication moves freely on the spring, I have emailed Leupold so I’ll see what they say. Just wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I will probably never need it but just like everything to work properly.
What he said. The lock button goes flush on rev 2, the pin on top pops up on rev 3. Where are you hunting where you need to go past rev 1 (10.5 Mils)??The pin on top of the turret pops up on the third rev. The turret lock button is the second rev indicator. On the second rev, it sits flush with the turret.
Thanks for the info! I did not notice the lock button moving flush, guess I should have read the manual. I am only getting 19 mils of elevation on my Seekins PH2 so not getting into the 3 rd rev. which is why I thought I had a problem.The pin on top of the turret pops up on the third rev. The turret lock button is the second rev indicator. On the second rev, it sits flush with the turret.
I did say in my original post that I would not need to be in the 2nd rev. but if I ever want to sale the scope I want to make sure its 100%.What he said. The lock button goes flush on rev 2, the pin on top pops up on rev 3. Where are you hunting where you need to go past rev 1 (10.5 Mils)??
Reading the directions usually helpsThanks for the info! I did not notice the lock button moving flush, guess I should have read the manual. I am only getting 19 mils of elevation on my Seekins PH2 so not getting into the 3 rd rev. which is why I thought I had a problem.
Don’t google it, don’t worry about it, it doesn’t exist, continue on without giving a shit.
ignorance is bliss, CA isn’t real
OK guys...new guy Q. What is CA?
I haven’t seen it in the 5-25 mark 5, only on the 3.6-18, due to the super short length I’m sure.A standard feature on all Leupold scopes.
OK guys...new guy Q. What is CA?
A standard feature on all Leupold scopes.
if you want it for PRS- get the CCH. You will be lacking trying PRS stages with the TMR. I’ve got scopes with both reticles, and I’ve shot matches with both. The TMR is not good enough for me. The CCH is great though. It works great on holdover stages, and the .25 mil marks give you enough information without being overwhelming. I’ve used the T3 and didn’t like it.For those of you who use these on comp rifles, I'm thinking of picking up a 5-25 to use on a new 6.5 build and need opinions on reticle choice. Looking to get into prs matches, but realistically most of my shooting will be known distance from 100 to 1,500 yards. I can't decide if the tmr is sufficient, or if I should be looking at one of the grid/tree articles. The t3 and cch seem cluttered to me compared to tree reticles from other manufacturers, but maybe they're great? I know reticles are a personal thing, but I haven't had a chance to use any of these, so would appreciate feedback.
Does anyone have a picture of the illuminated Tremor 3 reticle through the scope? On leupold's website the illuminated version appears to have the windage marks number and the reticle almost looks thicker. I havn't been able to find any actual pictures of the reticle through the scope yet.
Me too although I hated the floating dot for a start but now I love it. Need another scope now for my other rifle gonna try somethng other than Leupold as I have them on all my other rifles.The vertical and horizontal stadia are 2x as thick in the illuminated version vs the non illum. However this helps in use at low magnification, as well as having the floating dot vs open center. I chose the illum tmr for this reason.
I have a 2x 5-25 T3’s, one illuminated and one non illuminated. I can tell you 100% that the illuminated one is not thicker. The reticles are identical between both optics, except one lights up when you turn the switch. I will also say that this is the best version of an illuminated Horus reticle I’ve seen in any scopes and I’ve also had the T3 in S&B’s and NF’s.
I like the color temp a little better on the Burris. The glass is about the same to me. The mk5hd has a neutral color look which some might think it has a washed look. I like the turrets on mk5hd better but don’t like the parallax or fov. Most rifle scopes have a warm look that makes tans, browns & reds look great but whites greens & blues won’t look as good as a neutral or cool tone. From having some experience with telescopes I know there are 3 types of glass that are the most used which are bak4 in cheaper, fpl51 or fk61 in mid level, & fpl53 fcd100 or fluorite in the high end scopes. Most likely the Burris & Mk5hd use a an fpl51 or equivalent at this price range. You probably won’t see much difference until you get to alpha level which are using expensive Ed glass like Schott fk58 or fpl53 Japanese glass. Even in the high end most people won’t see much of a difference unless they have a lot of experience looking at high end glass.Can I suggest a Burris xtr3? They compare very favorably to my mk5hd. I have a few of each, and I honestly prefer the glass in the Burris.
OK, I gotta ask, with all the MK5 love, what about the MK6 3-18? Assuming that the tracking issues are fixed, or get fixed by factory return, any reason to pick the MK5 over MK6? MK6 is slightly more compact- lighter, shorter, 34 mm tube, wider fov. Don't know about glass differences, haven't seen that discussed.
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The mk6 is only 3oz lighter. Illuminated m6 is $3-4000. Non illuminated with the better turrets are $2500. So the price is what makes mk5 18x good pick. Non illuminated mk5 for $1450-1650 & illuminated for around $1800.
OK, I gotta ask, with all the MK5 love, what about the MK6 3-18? Assuming that the tracking issues are fixed, or get fixed by factory return, any reason to pick the MK5 over MK6? MK6 is slightly more compact- lighter, shorter, 34 mm tube, wider fov. Don't know about glass differences, haven't seen that discussed.
The cheapest I’ve seen the m5c2 model is $1800 & most everywhere else it’s $2500I think the reasons that MK5 became favored over MK6 ( price, tracking, weird turret) may not be as valid anymore, at least for the non-illuminated MK6, the street price has come down closer to the MK5, with M5C2 turrets and tracking fixed, and the optics and form factor are better, so for a hunting scope I am liking the mk6 3-18 non-illum TMR M5C2 for around 1500-1600. If you want a different reticle or illuminated the price difference jumps for some reason and the MK5 is for sure a better deal.
Would a jump from an illuminated Mk6 to an illuminated Mk5 be an upgrade, push, downgrade? I have a tremor 2 but thinking of a TMR for hunting reticle but torn between the two models.I think the reasons that MK5 became favored over MK6 ( price, tracking, weird turret) may not be as valid anymore, at least for the non-illuminated MK6, the street price has come down closer to the MK5, with M5C2 turrets and tracking fixed, and the optics and form factor are better, so for a hunting scope I am liking the mk6 3-18 non-illum TMR M5C2 for around 1500-1600. If you want a different reticle or illuminated the price difference jumps for some reason and the MK5 is for sure a better deal.
Don't know but I'm skeptical it'd be an upgrade, though certainly cheaper. It'd be nice to see a side by side comparison of MK5 and MK6 glass. What I can say is I just got a non-illuminated MK6 with TMR for a hunting setup and I think the reticle will work well for that, its got good visibility in low light at 3x. I only just got it, but putting it side by side against a Hensoldt 4-16x56 at different times of day, the light transmission and resolution of the MK6 holds up very well, although it is more finicky to focus.Would a jump from an illuminated Mk6 to an illuminated Mk5 be an upgrade, push, downgrade? I have a tremor 2 but thinking of a TMR for hunting reticle but torn between the two models.
Question for guys running the 3.6-18 mounted in a Spuhr on a short action.
Is the eye relief / eyebox flexible enough to a certain point? Being that the mount is longer there doesn’t seem to be a lot to play with.
What’s the difference between what nikons doing & all these scope companies doing business with CHINA. I could care less that there not making rifle scopes anymore. Most likely it’s $$$ & not politics. I doubt any of these companies put politics or ethics ahead of $$. There plenty of other scopes that are as good or betterFuck Nikon.
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I agree their customer service is nowhere near leupold or vortex. Try contacting bman940 he used to work for Nikon & has helped a lot of other people on the hide with customer serviceWell I still haven’t gotten the check they promised me 3 months ago for the red dot that didn’t work, after trying to give me a coupon to their non stocked optics store.
good Luck with customer service and warranty claims in my experience they’ll take care of you when they get around to it