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Especially in lite of @Geno C. post #109 in this thread.Fixed it for you.![]()
Yes. Expensive isn't always great, but cheap is crappy almost always.Fixed it for you.![]()
546 yards with 25 mils dialed in with another 8.2 holdover on the tree. Scope would only dial up to 26 mils. Match director decided to make the longest target at 421 yards for subsequent matches as everybody ran out of elevation adjustment for 546.what’s the longest impact do you have with a 22
Note the post I refenced was in relation to factory lead ammo. Not his fancy loads.That’s awesome my 300 prc is like 26 mils at a mile
lol I see what you did there
It was 907 to be precise but the idea is the same. We’ll get the copper stuff on that plate in the not so distant futureNote the post I refenced was in relation to factory lead ammo. Not his fancy loads.
I would think they would be really slow though
In preparation for our first local long range precision .22 LR match this month, I found that many of the first time shooters had/have no idea what their dope is or should be. After looking for easy ways to provide them information, especially those that do not have ballistic apps or are new enough that JBM looks like a stock ticker, I then searched for published drop information for existing .22 LR loads. It turns out that they are surprisingly sparse if they can be found at all. So I spent some (probably way too much) time putting these five charts together for the shooters of this upcoming match. Then I thought that it might be useful for some of you here too. I know that there are at least some of you that know all this and have no need, but I'm betting that there are more that are like I was just a little while ago that have mostly no idea where to start.
So, take a look at this pdf I made of a simple chart that includes 6 common lower cost, low velocity loads sometimes used for these matches. Know that:
I may consider making some more of these charts for your consumption IF: you find them useful, I am provided with some specific load requests, I have the ability to pull the data from my ballistic app and if I feel like it.
- I only provided these in 10 yard increments instead of the 5 yard increments that I prefer because it's a lot of data entry typing and I'm no fan
- Info is for CCI Standard Velocity, Aguila Match Rifle, Eley Club, Federal Match, Fiocchi Match and Lapua Club. All 40g lead round nose
- Info is simply outputs from my ballistic application using my inputs and includes only drops data in inches, mrads and MOA. No wind holds
- Accuracy of the charts seems to be spot on for my rifle at my location (near sea level). Your results may vary a bit, but these are a good starting point at the very least.
- These are based on a 50 yard zero.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
ETA: there are some more updated charts and other good info scattered throughout the rest of this thread. One day I may get around to consolidating it into this first post. Of course then I would ruin all of the fun you’ll have reading through this thread. So there’s that…
Thanks for the chart!In preparation for our first local long range precision .22 LR match this month, I found that many of the first time shooters had/have no idea what their dope is or should be. After looking for easy ways to provide them information, especially those that do not have ballistic apps or are new enough that JBM looks like a stock ticker, I then searched for published drop information for existing .22 LR loads. It turns out that they are surprisingly sparse if they can be found at all. So I spent some (probably way too much) time putting these five charts together for the shooters of this upcoming match. Then I thought that it might be useful for some of you here too. I know that there are at least some of you that know all this and have no need, but I'm betting that there are more that are like I was just a little while ago that have mostly no idea where to start.
So, take a look at this pdf I made of a simple chart that includes 6 common lower cost, low velocity loads sometimes used for these matches. Know that:
I may consider making some more of these charts for your consumption IF: you find them useful, I am provided with some specific load requests, I have the ability to pull the data from my ballistic app and if I feel like it.
- I only provided these in 10 yard increments instead of the 5 yard increments that I prefer because it's a lot of data entry typing and I'm no fan
- Info is for CCI Standard Velocity, Aguila Match Rifle, Eley Club, Federal Match, Fiocchi Match and Lapua Club. All 40g lead round nose
- Info is simply outputs from my ballistic application using my inputs and includes only drops data in inches, mrads and MOA. No wind holds
- Accuracy of the charts seems to be spot on for my rifle at my location (near sea level). Your results may vary a bit, but these are a good starting point at the very least.
- These are based on a 50 yard zero.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks
ETA: there are some more updated charts and other good info scattered throughout the rest of this thread. One day I may get around to consolidating it into this first post. Of course then I would ruin all of the fun you’ll have reading through this thread. So there’s that…
This is all very cool and all, but don’t you think it would do better in its own thread, that isn’t about .22 LR trajectories?That's precisely what I mean. In Field Target in the USA, many people have decided to shoot under the World Field Target
Federation rules and that includes having a maximum energy output of 12 FPE. I have always shot in the unlimited "A" class,
USA rules which allows for a maximum of 20 FPE. So If I go to a match and only one person shoots in my class, I don't want to
beat just him, I want to beat everyone that is competing under the World Field Target Federation rules. That is why I have
a brand new aluminum high power regulator that is shooting 17.25 FPE along with the original brass 12 FPE reg.
Part of the benefit to shooting unlimited class is, I don't have to worry about any pesky rules and have I inadvertently broken any.
The first image is of a high flow valve with a smaller head and a reduced valve stem. The Hill compressor will charge my guns
to 4500 psi. so I don't need to fill my scuba tanks and keep them up to date.
This is what I came up with.
I like it for the ability to plot my data and to the best of my observation, also my results. This makes the chart useful for analysis both during and after the match.
I also like it for a quick wind reference to provide relative hold overs for any distance.
It's a bit of an effort with MS Paint which I used for this, but it works. If you are good with Adobe products or even Solid Works it will be better yet.
Yes, I have to estimate the offset for different temperatures, or I could just make versions for different temperature ranges. I thought of adding a relative temperature offset scale off to the side, which I will do when I feel inspired.
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The actually chart was done by MSPaint, per his text above. As to what program actually he used to generate the numbers, I can’t say.I messaged @PracticalTactical about this chart, but he hasn't logged on since January.
Does anyone know what was used to plot this?
I concur, though I have done some crazy stunts creating engineering drawings using just PowerPoint when that is all I was provided. You have to really learn how to manipulate the software in order to use it in a way that it wasn’t intended. He implies that’s what he did, though he may have imported the graph in from another program (likely) and then used Paint to make it look right and say what it meant.Thanks - I completely missed that whole paragraph in his post.
I have no idea how you would even go about this in MS Paint, other than just manually drawing each line.
It wouldn't be as elegant but it would be much faster to create something like this in Excel, and you could have a lookup table that the graph would reference.Thanks - I completely missed that whole paragraph in his post.
I have no idea how you would even go about this in MS Paint, other than just manually drawing each line.
Do you have a chart that goes to 400 yards?The CCI SV basically mirrors my drop chart.
Nice but 22LR is .223, not .224. Probably doesn't make much of a difference.I’ll post up this basic chart that is correct for my 28” barreled Win 52C.
All data has been verified over two years. The slight inconsistencies I have found I attributed to environmental conditions.
Eley Tenex EPS View attachment 8240318
is there a chart that lists the BC of the most common 22LR ammo ? Mainly looking to see what the Eley ESP ammo with the "tit" BC is. I have a tool that "nose bumps" 22 LR and changes a RN to an ESP type nose. Might save me some time testing to see how the bumped ammo compares to the standard RN of several LR ammo .
Thank you
Other than the individual BCs listed in the charts and in following posts here. Getting verified BCs would require some good deal of testing using good equipment.is there a chart that lists the BC of the most common 22LR ammo ? Mainly looking to see what the Eley ESP ammo with the "tit" BC is. I have a tool that "nose bumps" 22 LR and changes a RN to an ESP type nose. Might save me some time testing to see how the bumped ammo compares to the standard RN of several LR ammo .
Thank you