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Some 22 LR Trajectory Charts
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Especially in lite of @Geno C. post #109 in this thread.Fixed it for you.
Think I’ll take a step forward with the Vudoo, well 22lr anyway. Let’s try a Quad
Let’s see what these will do in a fast twist Bartlein on a Vudoo. Had my buddy fit and chamber a 1-5.75 Bartlein barrel. Worked with another friend at Badlands Precision to get this bullet made.
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Yes. Expensive isn't always great, but cheap is crappy almost always.Fixed it for you.
546 yards with 25 mils dialed in with another 8.2 holdover on the tree. Scope would only dial up to 26 mils. Match director decided to make the longest target at 421 yards for subsequent matches as everybody ran out of elevation adjustment for 546.
Another TRR-SR gun here. I've shot out to 400 with some success but not what I would call great. The conditions have to be good to stretch it past 200. We have done 300 with some pretty decent groups, again on a good day.
Lapua Center X and Eley Yellow is what my rifle likes. You have to find what yours likes. I also sort by rim thickness. I shoot suppressed and with a home made tuner. Also using bipod and rear bag from my FTR gun.
Lapua Center X and Eley Yellow is what my rifle likes. You have to find what yours likes. I also sort by rim thickness. I shoot suppressed and with a home made tuner. Also using bipod and rear bag from my FTR gun.
Note the post I refenced was in relation to factory lead ammo. Not his fancy loads.
It was 907 to be precise but the idea is the same. We’ll get the copper stuff on that plate in the not so distant future
First look at this thread today. I was really surprised at the drop figures in the original post - about 21~25-inches for drop @ 150 yards???
I use a highly modified CZ 457 .22 mag for my trainer instead of a .22. The only CZ part left is the action - even the trigger is not the original CZ. You can see a picture of it at the end of the post.
It is said that it is not as accurate as .22 long rifle, but I still went with the 22 Mag because it is supersonic slightly over 150 yards and that's more in keeping with PRS type of shooting discipline. 150 yards with that rifle is equivalent to a rifle that does 1200 FPS at 1000 yards.
With my.22 Mag, using Hornady VMAX 30 grain pills @ ~2200 FPS, the drop at 150 is 3.7-inches! And there's even a better round for longer ranges, though not as accurate as the 30 grain Hornady in my rifle. But only marginally so.
That is the CCI 35 grain A22. The drop on that one, maybe because of more weight and better ballistics at almost the same speed (~2100 fps) is only 2.61 inches!
That is a HUGE difference between my .22 Mag and a .22 long rifle. The price of the rifle is the same and I can swap to .22 long rifle barrel in about 15-minutes,
Nevertheless, rimfire is a ton of fun regardless of caliber and a LOT less expensive to practice with.
Pic:
Best 3-shot group ever at 100 yards:
I use a highly modified CZ 457 .22 mag for my trainer instead of a .22. The only CZ part left is the action - even the trigger is not the original CZ
. You can see a picture of it at the end of the post.It is said that it is not as accurate as .22 long rifle, but I still went with the 22 Mag because it is supersonic slightly over 150 yards and that's more in keeping with PRS type of shooting discipline. 150 yards with that rifle is equivalent to a rifle that does 1200 FPS at 1000 yards.
With my.22 Mag, using Hornady VMAX 30 grain pills @ ~2200 FPS, the drop at 150 is 3.7-inches! And there's even a better round for longer ranges, though not as accurate as the 30 grain Hornady in my rifle. But only marginally so.
That is the CCI 35 grain A22. The drop on that one, maybe because of more weight and better ballistics at almost the same speed (~2100 fps) is only 2.61 inches!
That is a HUGE difference between my .22 Mag and a .22 long rifle. The price of the rifle is the same and I can swap to .22 long rifle barrel in about 15-minutes,
Nevertheless, rimfire is a ton of fun regardless of caliber and a LOT less expensive to practice with.
Pic:
Best 3-shot group ever at 100 yards:
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That’s a good shooting rifle. However, you should know that all of the loads in my posts are standard velocity or sub-Sonic. The reason for that was specifically to provide information on the most common loads used for NRL22 and PRS22. According to the rules of PRS22, you will no be able to use your .22 Mag in a sanctioned match. Same for NRL22.
Now, just using it as a trainer for regular CF PRS as you are doing is a great idea and you seem to have it worked out.
Now, just using it as a trainer for regular CF PRS as you are doing is a great idea and you seem to have it worked out.
This is what I came up with.
I like it for the ability to plot my data and to the best of my observation, also my results. This makes the chart useful for analysis both during and after the match.
I also like it for a quick wind reference to provide relative hold overs for any distance.
It's a bit of an effort with MS Paint which I used for this, but it works. If you are good with Adobe products or even Solid Works it will be better yet.
Yes, I have to estimate the offset for different temperatures, or I could just make versions for different temperature ranges. I thought of adding a relative temperature offset scale off to the side, which I will do when I feel inspired.
I like it for the ability to plot my data and to the best of my observation, also my results. This makes the chart useful for analysis both during and after the match.
I also like it for a quick wind reference to provide relative hold overs for any distance.
It's a bit of an effort with MS Paint which I used for this, but it works. If you are good with Adobe products or even Solid Works it will be better yet.
Yes, I have to estimate the offset for different temperatures, or I could just make versions for different temperature ranges. I thought of adding a relative temperature offset scale off to the side, which I will do when I feel inspired.
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Have you seen this site? How does it compare to your data?
shooterscalculator.com
I'm no fan of Frankin-guns but post #260 looks very well done. It has nice coloration and visual balance. If it is green, I would
have gone with black. I'm OCD that way..... It looks like you may have kept the factory bolt knob. I hated mine. I swapped it out for
a Vudoo knob asap. My B14R has one too.
ShootersCalculator.com | 22 LR Standard Velocity
Calculates the ballistic trajectory of a bullet fired from a rifle, handgun or other firearm. Produces a ballistic trajectory chart and table that shows the drop, velocity, kinetic energy, windage, and trajectory of a bullet.
I'm no fan of Frankin-guns but post #260 looks very well done. It has nice coloration and visual balance. If it is green, I would
have gone with black. I'm OCD that way..... It looks like you may have kept the factory bolt knob. I hated mine. I swapped it out for
a Vudoo knob asap. My B14R has one too.
This feels like an old query but the link below is something I found in just a few minutes looking on the net.
Personally, I used my own DOPE that I had collected. I also have to wonder why anybody would trust canned DOPE
more than their own DOPE?
Superfluous information removed by poster. Who wants extra information that might pique their interests?
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Personally, I used my own DOPE that I had collected. I also have to wonder why anybody would trust canned DOPE
more than their own DOPE?
Superfluous information removed by poster. Who wants extra information that might pique their interests?
ShootersCalculator.com | 22 LR Standard Velocity
Calculates the ballistic trajectory of a bullet fired from a rifle, handgun or other firearm. Produces a ballistic trajectory chart and table that shows the drop, velocity, kinetic energy, windage, and trajectory of a bullet.
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This is all very cool and all, but don’t you think it would do better in its own thread, that isn’t about .22 LR trajectories?
I do.
Yup got a whole section for air rifles. Has nothing to do with .22 LR trajectories.
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I messaged @PracticalTactical about this chart, but he hasn't logged on since January.
Does anyone know what was used to plot this?
The actually chart was done by MSPaint, per his text above. As to what program actually he used to generate the numbers, I can’t say.
I concur, though I have done some crazy stunts creating engineering drawings using just PowerPoint when that is all I was provided. You have to really learn how to manipulate the software in order to use it in a way that it wasn’t intended. He implies that’s what he did, though he may have imported the graph in from another program (likely) and then used Paint to make it look right and say what it meant.
I’ve done similar things. Not the best option, but it works if that’s what you’ve got to work with.
It wouldn't be as elegant but it would be much faster to create something like this in Excel, and you could have a lookup table that the graph would reference.
I’ll post up this basic chart that is correct for my 28” barreled Win 52C.
All data has been verified over two years. The slight inconsistencies I have found I attributed to environmental conditions.
Eley Tenex EPS
All data has been verified over two years. The slight inconsistencies I have found I attributed to environmental conditions.
Eley Tenex EPS
With my Volquartsen 10/22 I've found less drop at 100 yards with Eley Force, compared to SK high velocity matchI had good luck with Eley force in my factory Sako Quad varmint, here is target 25yrds - 100yrds. My drop was allot less at 100 than I would expect ???
I just bought a CZ453, that came with a tuner, about a brick of Lapua ammunition, and a Nikon 6-20 with fine crosshairs, and a target dot. I took it to the range yesterday, and the Lapua didn't do much better than CCI SV. I forgot to take some SK to try. Come the next warm day, I'll try SK in the CZ and Lapua in my Volquartsen, IF none of my rifles like the Lapua, it's going down the road, along with the Nikon scope. The Scope would be great for benchrest, which the previous owner used it for. There's an Anchutz MTR, that's tempting
is there a chart that lists the BC of the most common 22LR ammo ? Mainly looking to see what the Eley ESP ammo with the "tit" BC is. I have a tool that "nose bumps" 22 LR and changes a RN to an ESP type nose. Might save me some time testing to see how the bumped ammo compares to the standard RN of several LR ammo .
Thank you
Thank you
This one looks interesting. Quite likely this projectile shape has a more air drag everywhere than classical "round nose" 22LR, and head to head lower BC. Have you tried to email manufacturer? What would be a benefit of such projectile? Perhaps improved accuracy on short range? Thread is about trajectory charts anyway so I doubt that single BC would be good enough for short and long range
Other than the individual BCs listed in the charts and in following posts here. Getting verified BCs would require some good deal of testing using good equipment.
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I didn't read the whole thread but this recent bunch caught my eye. I found this chart somewhere online, it may help you ->
On Eley offical web page, one can find listed BC for each of their 22LR product:
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They use RA4 drag model (supposedly more suitable for 22LR) and for each of 3 types of bullet shapes (round nose, (semi)flat nose, HP) claimed coefficient is exactly the same (=0.112)! That is very interesting and strange
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They use RA4 drag model (supposedly more suitable for 22LR) and for each of 3 types of bullet shapes (round nose, (semi)flat nose, HP) claimed coefficient is exactly the same (=0.112)! That is very interesting and strange
