Probably both... ;-)
Though my preference would be for NYC and LA. But only because I'd hate to see the Smithsonian turned into air pollution!
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Probably both... ;-)
Though my preference would be for NYC and LA. But only because I'd hate to see the Smithsonian turned into air pollution!
Sirhr
There is reasoning why Iran might not be seeking a nuke. Its a kinda game of chicken everyone playing it without nukes. The only real situation when risk outweighed the benefit is if they felt they are existentially threatened.
Long story short Iran is a regional power in a conventional sense and can exert considerable influence as such , since US broke Iraq, Iran is practically the no1 force in the region. Iran going nuclear would mean GCC Arabs would buy nuclear weapons, and then all the conventional edge would go up in smoke, tiny Qatar or Bahrein getting nukes suddenly play on a level playing field . That is one calculation that always held back nuclear ambitions.
This is one of the lessons from India and Pakistan going nuclear , India lost its massive edge over Pakistan, Before going nuclear India dwarfed Pakistan in military capability once it went for nukes, Pakistan went for nukes took them 2 decades to catch up and now , they have to behave as equals even though they are not. I don't think GCC would need 2 decades to get nukes if Iran does ,nuclear edge would probably last months not years.
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Two Palestinians kill woman, injure 12 in coordinated Israel car-rammings: cops
Police described the incident in Raanana, north of Tel Aviv, as a terrorist attack and said two suspects were under arrest. The two are from the same family in Hebron, a city in the occupied West B…
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Oman is making noises now.
Oman’s Shura Council condemns US-British aggression against Yemen
MUSCAT, Jan. 15 (YPA) - The Omani Shura Council condemned the unjust aggression against Yemen by some Western powers under the pretext of attacking some commercial ships and protecting sea lanes.The Council said in a statement on Sunday, “At a time w
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Navy SEALs missing off coast of Somalia were chasing Iran-made weapons bound for Yemen, official says
The two U.S. Navy SEALs lost at sea off the coast of Somalia were searching for a Yemen-bound shipment of Iranian weapons to Houthi fighters, a U.S. official confirmed.
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That’s just a cover story.Navy SEALs missing off coast of Somalia were chasing Iran-made weapons bound for Yemen, official says
The two U.S. Navy SEALs lost at sea off the coast of Somalia were searching for a Yemen-bound shipment of Iranian weapons to Houthi fighters, a U.S. official confirmed.
oman has lots of shia like yemen, and unlike the other gulf states that are mostly sunni.
What would Oman have us do?
Oh, I guess it's just too bad that we can no longer use the Red Sea Suez Canal route. It's back to the year 1800.
i'm not sure i understand the modern leniency on piracy. these missile attacks seem to qualify. the horn of africa attacks were treated with kid gloves. a lot of vids around about the US arresting the pirates and treating them like domestic criminals. not a steven decatur approach. looks same here to me. with our love of whacking people over there i don't get not doing a total full court destruction of the source. cleaning out these sources of piracy looks to me like maybe the only excuse there is for all these military interventions of the last century or so.
also,seems like any country involved would agree. closing off mideast oil shipments would hurt all nations even china. just me but seems like one of the good reasons to have and use military force. same goes for the shit in san fran bay,south china sea and the caribbean.
also,seems like any country involved would agree. closing off mideast oil shipments would hurt all nations even china. just me but seems like one of the good reasons to have and use military force. same goes for the shit in san fran bay,south china sea and the caribbean.
I thought we had a massive case of global warming, nothern sea route is about 35% shorter than the Suez Canal route , but likely no go In winter
By the way even RAND Corp is not convinced bombing works on Huthis
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Won’t happen to me or my kids. Il die here before Il die in some foreign land as past of sone oligarchy game / theft scheme
I thought we had a massive case of global warming, nothern sea route is about 35% shorter than the Suez Canal route , but likely no go In winter
By the way even RAND Corp is not convinced bombing works on Huthis
I was going to post that the path north of Russia is not passable even in summer, but apparently it is somewhat, and becoming more so over time, and Putin is working on making it more so.
As the Arctic melts, China and Russia struggle for control
"China has made the case that it's an Arctic state – this is at odds with Russia's conception of what an Arctic state is"
I was going to post that the path north of Russia is not passable even in summer, but apparently it is somewhat, and becoming more so over time, and Putin is working on making it more so.
As the Arctic melts, China and Russia struggle for control
"China has made the case that it's an Arctic state – this is at odds with Russia's conception of what an Arctic state is"www.wired.co.uk
Guidelines say ships without Ice Rating reinforcement can run the norther route July to November
The ice situation in the waters of the Northern Sea Route (hereinafter referred to as the NSR) in the current year is characterized by a large amount of residual ice, especially in the eastern region of the Arctic: the Laptev Sea, the East Siberian Sea, the Long Strait.
When planning voyages during the summer-autumn navigation period along the NSR waters, please take into account that the work of icebreakers at FTS tariffs ends on November 15, 2023 in the Kara Sea.
According to this plan, the pilotage of vessels in the eastern sector of the Arctic will be carried out according to the following scheme:
1. November the 5th – caravan from the port of Pevek in an easterly direction;
2. November the 7th – caravan from the eastern edge of the ice of the Chukchi Sea in a westerly direction;
3. November the 10th – caravan from the port of Pevek in a westerly direction.
Please note that on the indicated dates, the FSUE Atomflot nuclear icebreaker forms the last ice convoy, with which it leaves for the Kara Sea.
Additionally, we inform you that the inclusion of a vessel in the caravan is subject to the submission of an application in the form from the Agreement to the Headquarters of Maritime Operations
There are bunch of these Nuclear powered Icebreakers that can run convoys of ships , given ships save 27-30mio $ worth of fuel per ship/trip over Suez route i can imagine paying the icebreaker to run convoy still makes economic sense
Not really talked about much any longer but this has been a big issue between the two in the recent past. Russia essentially told China to back the fuck off. Russia also planted a flag under the ice and pissed Canada off severely too, so it’s pretty obvious who wants what.I was going to post that the path north of Russia is not passable even in summer, but apparently it is somewhat, and becoming more so over time, and Putin is working on making it more so.
As the Arctic melts, China and Russia struggle for control
"China has made the case that it's an Arctic state – this is at odds with Russia's conception of what an Arctic state is"
BBC NEWS | Europe | Russia plants flag under N Pole
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Houthi missile hits U.S.-owned cargo ship, says U.S. government – NaturalNews.com
The United States is reporting that a Houthi missile struck a U.S.-owned cargo ship just hours after a U.S. aircraft shot down a ballistic missile fired at an American destroyer in the Red Sea. Gibraltar Eagle, the vessel in question, reported “no injuries or significant damage,” according to...
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ESCALATION: U.S. strikes Iran-backed Houthi rebels after Iran hijacks oil tanker in Gulf of Oman – NaturalNews.com
The U.S. and U.K. have carried out strikes against numerous targets in areas of Yemen controlled by Houthi rebels following the seizure of an oil tanker in the Gulf of Oman by Iran. The seized vessel is an oil tanker known as the St. Nikolas that bears Marshall Islands flags. Previously known as...
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Iran-Pakistan tensions live: Pakistan launches strikes in Iran day after deadly Balochistan strike
A day after Iran launched airstrikes to target a jihadist group based in Pakistan, Islamabad has retaliated with strikes at multiple locations inside Iran, W...
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Iran-Pakistan tensions live: Pakistan launches strikes in Iran day after deadly Balochistan strike
A day after Iran launched airstrikes to target a jihadist group based in Pakistan, Islamabad has retaliated with strikes at multiple locations inside Iran, W...
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It seems both Iran and Pakistan bombed same folk just on the other sides of the border
Both struck at Belochi insurgents
It seems both Iran and Pakistan bombed same folk just on the other sides of the border
Both struck at Belochi insurgents
Correct. Seems that the Iranian bombing may have been done with Pak knowledge and unofficial consent.
Το Ιράν κτύπησε για πρώτη φορά το Πακιστάν με βαλλιστικούς πυραύλους και drones: Καταστράφηκαν βάσεις της «Τζάις αλ Άντλ» (vid) - WarNews247
Το Ιράν εξαπέλυσε ευρείας κλίμακας επίθεση με βαλλιστικούς πυραύλους και drones εναντίον βάσεων της ένοπλης οργάνωσης «Τζάις αλ Άντλ» («Στρατός της Δικαιοσύνης») στο Μπαλουχιστάν στο Πακιστάν. Το Ιράν μέσα σε 48 ώρες έπληξε στόχους σε τρεις χώρες: Συρία, Ιράκ και Πακιστάν. Σύμφωνα με κάποιες...
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"According to some information, Pakistan was in consultation with the leadership of Iran about this strike. Officially Pakistan has not yet confirmed the Iranian strike inside its territory.
The development is of immense interest as Iran strikes targets inside Pakistan for the first time. It is noted that Pakistan is at war with two more terrorist organizations and any help would be welcome for Islamabad.
Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps confirmed that it carried out an operation using ballistic missiles and kamikaze drones against 2 headquarters used by "anti-Iranian terrorist groups" on the territory of West Pakistan near the border with Iran."
oh the irony 
Ship Insurers Seeking Exclusions for US and UK Vessels from Red Sea Coverage
Bloomberg
Some ship insurers are starting to avoid covering US and UK merchant ships against war risks when they navigate the southern Red Sea, another sign of blowback since the two nations’ airstrikes on Yemen last week.
Houthi militants have stepped up attacks on commercial ships in the past few days, making good on a threat to respond to airstrikes that the US and UK carried out on Friday. They’ve struck two commodity carriers with missiles since Monday, although both were able to continue their voyages.
As a result, underwriters are seeking exclusions for vessels with links to the US, UK and Israel when issuing cover for trips through the area, according to Marcus Baker, global head of marine and cargo at Marsh. It essentially means they won’t provide insurance.
“Underwriters are adding clauses saying no US, UK or Israeli involvement,” he said. “Just about everybody is putting something like that in, and many include the words ‘ownership’ or ‘interest’.”
War risk rates have gone into a frenzy in recent days following the US and UK strikes, with cover surging to 1% of a ship’s value from about a tenth of that a few weeks earlier. That would mean it costs about $1 million to cover a vessel worth $100 million.
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Ship Insurers Seeking Exclusions for US and UK Vessels from Red Sea Coverage
Bloomberg
Some ship insurers are starting to avoid covering US and UK merchant ships against war risks when they navigate the southern Red Sea, another sign of blowback since the two nations’ airstrikes on Yemen last week.
Houthi militants have stepped up attacks on commercial ships in the past few days, making good on a threat to respond to airstrikes that the US and UK carried out on Friday. They’ve struck two commodity carriers with missiles since Monday, although both were able to continue their voyages.
As a result, underwriters are seeking exclusions for vessels with links to the US, UK and Israel when issuing cover for trips through the area, according to Marcus Baker, global head of marine and cargo at Marsh. It essentially means they won’t provide insurance.
“Underwriters are adding clauses saying no US, UK or Israeli involvement,” he said. “Just about everybody is putting something like that in, and many include the words ‘ownership’ or ‘interest’.”
War risk rates have gone into a frenzy in recent days following the US and UK strikes, with cover surging to 1% of a ship’s value from about a tenth of that a few weeks earlier. That would mean it costs about $1 million to cover a vessel worth $100 million.
© 2024 Bloomberg L.P.
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Both strikes targeted some Belochistani separatists on each side of the border and both countries strikes serve mostly to placate the domestic public in respective countries.Correct. Seems that the Iranian bombing may have been done with Pak knowledge and unofficial consent.
Το Ιράν κτύπησε για πρώτη φορά το Πακιστάν με βαλλιστικούς πυραύλους και drones: Καταστράφηκαν βάσεις της «Τζάις αλ Άντλ» (vid) - WarNews247
Το Ιράν εξαπέλυσε ευρείας κλίμακας επίθεση με βαλλιστικούς πυραύλους και drones εναντίον βάσεων της ένοπλης οργάνωσης «Τζάις αλ Άντλ» («Στρατός της Δικαιοσύνης») στο Μπαλουχιστάν στο Πακιστάν. Το Ιράν μέσα σε 48 ώρες έπληξε στόχους σε τρεις χώρες: Συρία, Ιράκ και Πακιστάν. Σύμφωνα με κάποιες...
"According to some information, Pakistan was in consultation with the leadership of Iran about this strike. Officially Pakistan has not yet confirmed the Iranian strike inside its territory.
The development is of immense interest as Iran strikes targets inside Pakistan for the first time. It is noted that Pakistan is at war with two more terrorist organizations and any help would be welcome for Islamabad.
Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps confirmed that it carried out an operation using ballistic missiles and kamikaze drones against 2 headquarters used by "anti-Iranian terrorist groups" on the territory of West Pakistan near the border with Iran."
Let's just say there is an extremely high probability this is some sort of Kabuki theatre unfolding
Yup. Lots of articles about Pakistan warning Iran that they will shove their shit in deep. But it looks more like a mutually beneficial game of whack a mole behind the scenes.
Bibi might need to hire Dershowitz after all as it seems there is now multiple cases being launched at ICJ and ICC expect there to ge massive pile on of cases coming , might need to enlist the whole Epstein black book for bibi to skate any charge
Indonesia and Slovenia are set to present a new charge against Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on February 19 at The Hague, regarding the violations of Palestinian rights In a separate case to the one brought by South Africa
Mexico, Chile refer Israel and Hamas to ICC over possible IDF war crimes committed since October 7th
Indonesia and Slovenia are set to present a new charge against Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on February 19 at The Hague, regarding the violations of Palestinian rights In a separate case to the one brought by South Africa
Mexico, Chile refer Israel and Hamas to ICC over possible IDF war crimes committed since October 7th
Do we have a lover's spat here?
"Israeli occupation Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu informed the United States today of his opposition to the establishment of a Palestinian state as part of any post-war scenario, as announced in a press conference on Thursday."
"After Netanyahu's statement, the White House reiterated its announcement that"there will be a post-conflict Gaza, and it will not be reoccupied," adding that the "US will not cease working towards achieving a two-state solution."
Israeli President Says ‘No Israelis in Their Right Mind’ Are Thinking About Peace
"Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Thursday that no Israelis “in their right mind” are thinking about peace as Israeli officials continue to make clear the onslaught in Gaza will not end anytime soon.
“If you ask an average Israeli now about his or her mental state, nobody in his right mind is willing now to think about what will be the solution of the peace agreements,” he said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland."
"Israeli occupation Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu informed the United States today of his opposition to the establishment of a Palestinian state as part of any post-war scenario, as announced in a press conference on Thursday."
"After Netanyahu's statement, the White House reiterated its announcement that"there will be a post-conflict Gaza, and it will not be reoccupied," adding that the "US will not cease working towards achieving a two-state solution."
Israeli President Says ‘No Israelis in Their Right Mind’ Are Thinking About Peace
"Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Thursday that no Israelis “in their right mind” are thinking about peace as Israeli officials continue to make clear the onslaught in Gaza will not end anytime soon.
“If you ask an average Israeli now about his or her mental state, nobody in his right mind is willing now to think about what will be the solution of the peace agreements,” he said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland."
Reviving ISIS: A US weapon against the Resistance Axis
Is it a coincidence that the world's foremost terror organization is being revived just as the US struggles under a multi-front assault on its hegemony in West Asia? More curiously, both ISIS and Washington's targets are exactly the same.ISIS: US foot soldiers in the regional war
Last week, four years after the Iraqi parliament first voted to expel foreign forces, Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammad Shia al-Sudani weighed in on the “destabilizing” impact of US troops and demanded a “quick and orderly” exit of those combat units.
Washington not only countered by saying it has “no plans” to withdraw from Iraq, but announced on 14 January that it would be sending an additional 1,500 troops to Iraq and Syria illegally, and without the consent of either nation.
One irony here is that ISIS appears to regain momentum each and every time Baghdad raises the issue of US military withdrawal from Iraq.
Reviving ISIS: A US weapon against the Resistance Axis
Is it a coincidence that the world's foremost terror organization is being revived just as the US struggles under a multi-front assault on its hegemony in West Asia? More curiously, both ISIS and Washington's targets are exactly the same.
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Just ramping the high speed low drag training unit deployments again. Transfer a few $$$$ million of gear to ISIS and get our troops done trigger time again. What could go wrong?Reviving ISIS: A US weapon against the Resistance Axis
Is it a coincidence that the world's foremost terror organization is being revived just as the US struggles under a multi-front assault on its hegemony in West Asia? More curiously, both ISIS and Washington's targets are exactly the same.
ISIS: US foot soldiers in the regional war
Reviving ISIS: A US weapon against the Resistance Axis
Is it a coincidence that the world's foremost terror organization is being revived just as the US struggles under a multi-front assault on its hegemony in West Asia? More curiously, both ISIS and Washington's targets are exactly the same.
LOL some cunt with zero actual experience at anything: https://www.rand.org/about/people/s/stark_alexandra.html
You're the Hobo Hilton of international affairs
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