No on the Burris. Yes on the PST.
Maybe your PX4 was a dog. Mine compares well against a Razor Gen2 which I have used.
Steiner T6xi
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No on the Burris. Yes on the PST.
Maybe your PX4 was a dog. Mine compares well against a Razor Gen2 which I have used.
Not sure where these are hitting shelves, we’re being told they don’t have packaging to ship. Hopefully by the 14th.
The T6X looks exciting
As these get out in the wild, we are all excited to see how they stack up. We will be getting these up on the website in the next few days, and these should be shipping soon.
5-30 with the MSR2 reticle showed up today. I'll be comparing it with my 7-35 ATACR and a US made 5-30 XTR3 once I get that back from Burris. Initial impressions are very good
Awesome! We have added to the website, and all orders ship in 2 weeks!
2.5-15 had my interest until I saw weight and reticle. 32 oz too much for an MPVO IMO, and the SCR reticle too thin for 2.5x use.
But the 3-18x56 has piqued my interest especially with MSR2 reticle, if they are using XTR III or Pro glass this could be a real winner, I’ve been waiting for someone to come out with a higher end medium range optic with big 56mm for low light work. I’ve always liked Steiner turrets so hopefully these don’t disappoint. Glad to see they’re finally replacing the T5 series, been about 7 years too long.
But the 3-18x56 has piqued my interest especially with MSR2 reticle, if they are using XTR III or Pro glass this could be a real winner, I’ve been waiting for someone to come out with a higher end medium range optic with big 56mm for low light work. I’ve always liked Steiner turrets so hopefully these don’t disappoint. Glad to see they’re finally replacing the T5 series, been about 7 years too long.
T5Xi looked very exciting too, but I was sorely disappointed, hoping Steiner learned their lesson but not holding my breath. As tempting as the 3-18x56 is I will not be an early adopter this time.
2.5-15 definitely needs a better reticle. I’m hunting for a optic for my mk12 mod H and keep coming back to the atacr.
The T5 was a bit of a fiasco with the turrets and many were let down by the glass. The T6 has great glass and the turrets appear to be the upgraded T5 with the locking feature. Hopefully it’s a successful launch!
remember that guy that did all the tracking tests and caused steiner to get the t5xi correct? 
.... i bet they took extra care on this release to make it track.
.... i bet they took extra care on this release to make it track.
Didn't KillSwitchEngage do some videos of the tracking back in the day showing the T5 turrets were pretty far off? I believe Steiner originally denied that anything was wrong and then silently started fixing them, does anyone else remember this? The good news is they finally did agree to fix them if you sent in your scope. To Burris' and Steiner's credit they seemed to have learned from past mistakes and appear to be keen on taking care of customers these days.
The worst CA I'd experienced with a $2k scope, but I believe they tweaked some things and later versions performed better.
Really hoping this is the case, with the advancements Burris has made with the XTR glass I'd hope some of that would trickle in to Steiner
Always liked the unique mrad display window. Please tell me the locking mechanism is twist off/twist on and not up/down, I am not a big fan of the up/down locking mechanisms.
Agreed, the M7Xi has been a bit underwhelming for the price so hoping the T6Xi will be fantastic from the get go.
Ha, how funny, I was just thinking that was youremember that guy that did all the tracking tests and caused steiner to get the t5xi correct?
100% lol. S&B makes some real nice scopes but the pricing is just ridiculous for some of the models.It's cheaper
Because the US is too short? GTFO with your snobbery, LOL
@Glassaholic
To respond to just a couple of your concerns:
-Yes the locking turret is a twist knob on top, not up and down.
-The glass looks VERY much like the XTR Pro but a touch better. I noticed it more at dusk so I believe it to be a coatings difference perhaps. This could just be a sample size of 1 scenario however.
ETA: Tracking is to be proven at this point of course, but assumed to be as good as the fixed T5
To respond to just a couple of your concerns:
-Yes the locking turret is a twist knob on top, not up and down.
-The glass looks VERY much like the XTR Pro but a touch better. I noticed it more at dusk so I believe it to be a coatings difference perhaps. This could just be a sample size of 1 scenario however.
ETA: Tracking is to be proven at this point of course, but assumed to be as good as the fixed T5
Brilliant, that is great to hear, looking forward to these finally getting to our shores, oh wait, the T5Xi was put together in Greeley so is that the same for the T6Xi or are these done overseas now?
This was disappointing to see, was really hoping it would have been <26oz
To answer a common question, the turrets on the 5-30x are 0.1 mil......the Steiner website and spec sheet says 0.25 moa, which is a typo...
I am all for lightweight scopes, but Leupold makes the lightest weight scopes of them all (average across all SKUs) and they seem to have the most issues related to durability and tracking compare with their similarly priced brethren. It would seem to me making something more stout and robust would require a few more ounces of material, all else being equal.
I am all for lightweight scopes, but Leupold makes the lightest weight scopes of them all (average across all SKUs) and they seem to have the most issues related to durability and tracking compare with their similarly priced brethren. It would seem to me making something more stout and robust would require a few more ounces of material, all else being equal.
I don’t recall saying it did. But as stated it’s cheaper for sure lol. Truthfully i want a mk5 3.6-18 with the PR2 reticle but leupold is gonna leupold
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Thank you for the information! I am looking forward to seeing/reading everyone’s reviews on the 1-6 w their new KC-1 reticle. Thinking I might want to try this out on MARS-L. Glass made in Japan, not Germany? Thanks
Glass is a good bit better than the US made XTR3 I've used, but not as good as my ATACR. Turrets are extremely positive clicks, and are the most tactile and audible clicks I've used. Got it mounted this morning, and eyeing Sunday to get it zeroed. Really digging the MSR2 reticle. The eye relief feels near constant and it feels really easy to get behind
the only question i had was "this is a typo correct?" and now we know it was thanks for answering it.
I think I lost interest in the SB 6-36. Waiting has killed me
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One thing I liked about the T5Xi was the forgiving eye box.. seems they sacrificed that on this new one
I was finally able to make it out to the range today with the new Steiner and my ATACR. I have to say after shooting back to back, I prefer the Steiner. Tried the get the best pictures I could with my phone, so apologies about the quality
To my eye the Steiner has slightly better clarity. (Edit: though I do think the ATACR had a more consistent clarity edge to edge). While the eyebox on the T6xi isn't as good as my XTR3, it's much better than the ATACR. I found it much easier to get behind.
To my eye the Steiner has slightly better clarity. (Edit: though I do think the ATACR had a more consistent clarity edge to edge). While the eyebox on the T6xi isn't as good as my XTR3, it's much better than the ATACR. I found it much easier to get behind.
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Not today unfortunately, had a few too many things to test for the time I had and just didn't get to it. Next trip out with this scope I'll try and do a tracking test
So in your attachments, are the 1st and 4th pics the ATACR and the 2nd and 3rd the Steiner?
Based on the reticle that appears to be the case, 2 and 3 are the MSR2 reticle and 1 and 4 are Mil-XT
So you're saying the XTR III 5.5-30 has a better eyebox than your ATACR 7-35? I've always thought that was one of the favored attributes of the 7-35 - was a forgiving eyebox. Based on what you mentioned above, you would rank the scopes (with regard to eyebox forgiveness) as:
- Burris XTR III 5.5-30
- Steiner T6Xi 5-30
- Nightforce ATACR 7-35
Correct with that ordering. And it's not that the eyebox on the ATACR is bad, it's just the XTR3 and T6xi are just even more forgiving.
Good to know
I remember that Burris used the 7x erector from the M7Xi design with their XTR III, ILya had made some comments about this early on indicating there are some benefits to not using the full extent of the erector and I wonder if this is one of those benefits. I had both the 3.3-18 and 5.5-30 XTR III models and thought they both punched above their class, my only gripe was no illumination which has now been resolved, also makes me think the XTR Pro which uses the same design but just adds better glass should be quite compelling. With the FOV of the XTR Pro being even better at 5.5x than the Steiner T6Xi 5-30 at 5x, it makes me wonder why Steiner didn't decide to go with a 6-36 design, I'm trying to figure out what advantage the Steiner has over the already proven XTR Pro other than the name of course?
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One advantage the T6xi has is it doesn't have annodized red turrets and mag ring lol. The locking and rev indicator turrets on the T6xi are an actual difference though. I wouldn't be surprised if the pro and the T6xi shared a lot of internal designs and components. I haven't had the chance to look through a pro yet, so I can't comment on any optical differences
Well that's true on the color... XTR Pro definitely designed more for competition use. Will be interesting to see how both fair in the market.
