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Vortex Viper PSTII, and XTRII are equal to or better than the PX4i.
I would guess you haven't used them if thats what you think. I have owned them all. Those are the ones the PX4 most closely compares with. The glass in PX4 is not particularly good. Really nothing about it was particularly good. It was ok for price when they dumped them for cheap.LOL not even fucking close. Those cheapo asian scopes are like looking through a dirty milk bottle.
I would guess you haven't used them if thats what you think. I have owned them all. Those are the ones the PX4 most closely compares with. The glass in PX4 is not particularly good. Really nothing about it was particularly good. It was ok for price when they dumped them for cheap.
No on the Burris. Yes on the PST.
Maybe your PX4 was a dog. Mine compares well against a Razor Gen2 which I have used.
How do these compare to the MK5 and the new LRP S3? I see they are starting to hit the shelves.
T5Xi looked very exciting too, but I was sorely disappointed, hoping Steiner learned their lesson but not holding my breath. As tempting as the 3-18x56 is I will not be an early adopter this time.Not sure where these are hitting shelves, we’re being told they don’t have packaging to ship. Hopefully by the 14th.
The T6X looks exciting
2.5-15 definitely needs a better reticle. I’m hunting for a optic for my mk12 mod H and keep coming back to the atacr.2.5-15 had my interest until I saw weight and reticle. 32 oz too much for an MPVO IMO, and the SCR reticle too thin for 2.5x use.
But the 3-18x56 has piqued my interest especially with MSR2 reticle, if they are using XTR III or Pro glass this could be a real winner, I’ve been waiting for someone to come out with a higher end medium range optic with big 56mm for low light work. I’ve always liked Steiner turrets so hopefully these don’t disappoint. Glad to see they’re finally replacing the T5 series, been about 7 years too long.
How does the atacr best the 520 us ?2.5-15 definitely needs a better reticle. I’m hunting for a optic for my mk12 mod H and keep coming back to the atacr.
T5Xi looked very exciting too, but I was sorely disappointed, hoping Steiner learned their lesson but not holding my breath. As tempting as the 3-18x56 is I will not be an early adopter this time.
It's cheaperHow does the atacr best the 520 us ?
Didn't KillSwitchEngage do some videos of the tracking back in the day showing the T5 turrets were pretty far off? I believe Steiner originally denied that anything was wrong and then silently started fixing them, does anyone else remember this? The good news is they finally did agree to fix them if you sent in your scope. To Burris' and Steiner's credit they seemed to have learned from past mistakes and appear to be keen on taking care of customers these days.The T5 was a bit of a fiasco with the turrets
The worst CA I'd experienced with a $2k scope, but I believe they tweaked some things and later versions performed better.and many were let down by the glass.
Really hoping this is the case, with the advancements Burris has made with the XTR glass I'd hope some of that would trickle in to SteinerThe T6 has great glass
Always liked the unique mrad display window. Please tell me the locking mechanism is twist off/twist on and not up/down, I am not a big fan of the up/down locking mechanisms.and the turrets appear to be the upgraded T5 with the locking feature.
Agreed, the M7Xi has been a bit underwhelming for the price so hoping the T6Xi will be fantastic from the get go.Hopefully it’s a successful launch!
Ha, how funny, I was just thinking that was youremember that guy that did all the tracking tests and caused steiner to get the t5xi correct? .... i bet they took extra care on this release to make it track.
100% lol. S&B makes some real nice scopes but the pricing is just ridiculous for some of the models.It's cheaper
Because the US is too short? GTFO with your snobbery, LOLHow does the atacr best the 520 us ?
Brilliant, that is great to hear, looking forward to these finally getting to our shores, oh wait, the T5Xi was put together in Greeley so is that the same for the T6Xi or are these done overseas now?@Glassaholic
To respond to just a couple of your concerns:
-Yes the locking turret is a twist knob on top, not up and down.
-The glass looks VERY much like the XTR Pro but a touch better. I noticed it more at dusk so I believe it to be a coatings difference perhaps. This could just be a sample size of 1 scenario however.
ETA: Tracking is to be proven at this point of course, but assumed to be as good as the fixed T5
Made in ColoradoBrilliant, that is great to hear, looking forward to these finally getting to our shores, oh wait, the T5Xi was put together in Greeley so is that the same for the T6Xi or are these done overseas now?
2.5-15 had my interest until I saw weight
I don’t recall saying it did. But as stated it’s cheaper for sure lol. Truthfully i want a mk5 3.6-18 with the PR2 reticle but leupold is gonna leupoldHow does the atacr best the 520 us ?
the only question i had was "this is a typo correct?" and now we know it was thanks for answering it.To answer a common question, the turrets on the 5-30x are 0.1 mil......the Steiner website and spec sheet says 0.25 moa, which is a typo...
I think I lost interest in the SB 6-36. Waiting has killed me100% lol. S&B makes some real nice scopes but the pricing is just ridiculous for some of the models.
According to Steiner’s spec sheet this is correct.Is the eye relief correct on the 3-18x56 as 3.5-3.3”?
One thing I liked about the T5Xi was the forgiving eye box.. seems they sacrificed that on this new oneAccording to Steiner’s spec sheet this is correct.
So in your attachments, are the 1st and 4th pics the ATACR and the 2nd and 3rd the Steiner?I was finally able to make it out to the range today with the new Steiner and my ATACR. I have to say after shooting back to back, I prefer the Steiner. Tried the get the best pictures I could with my phone, so apologies about the quality
To my eye the Steiner has slightly better clarity. (Edit: though I do think the ATACR had a more consistent clarity edge to edge). While the eyebox on the T6xi isn't as good as my XTR3, it's much better than the ATACR. I found it much easier to get behind.
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Based on the reticle that appears to be the case, 2 and 3 are the MSR2 reticle and 1 and 4 are Mil-XTSo in your attachments, are the 1st and 4th pics the ATACR and the 2nd and 3rd the Steiner?
Which Steiner, which XTR III and which ATACR?To my eye the Steiner has slightly better clarity. (Edit: though I do think the ATACR had a more consistent clarity edge to edge). While the eyebox on the T6xi isn't as good as my XTR3, it's much better than the ATACR. I found it much easier to get behind.
Awesome! We have added to the website, and all orders ship in 2 weeks!
So you're saying the XTR III 5.5-30 has a better eyebox than your ATACR 7-35? I've always thought that was one of the favored attributes of the 7-35 - was a forgiving eyebox. Based on what you mentioned above, you would rank the scopes (with regard to eyebox forgiveness) as:My bad, correct that 1 and 4 are the ATACR. Steiner is the 5-30, ATACR is 7-35, and XTR3 is 5-30