Re: Steroids Anyone ??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JJones75</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">@ Rustydog - given your opinion on the matter, what percentage of athletes in London next week will have used performance enhancing drugs to get there?
Do you think it is possible that under medical supervision, the level of substances and the combination thereof can be balanced against a diet and training program and thus optimized for a specific result? Do you think that there is enough knowledge about the subject to achieve the result without doing harm to the body?
Good luck </div></div>
Not Rustydog , but in my oppinion and from all the lab work i have seen yes a persona can use anabolic steroids at a significant performance enhancing dose for a very long time with little to no health risk providing they are paying attention to their diet , training and micronutrients.
The problem is like the old bodybuilding sayin goes
"you are only as big and strong as your dose"
and their is some merit to that , once you reach your genetic limit you have made as much muscle as your body can sustain with the hormones it produces along with perfect eating and training. Yes you can still make gains after this point but their will be miniscule in compairison. If the average healthy 30yrold male has a healthy test level of say 750 and he has reached his natural peak , with a dose of only 250-300mg of exogenous testosterone a week he can have his test levels 1200-1500 , that will certainly increase his muscle mass and that dose is reasonably low and will likely have minimal if any negitive side effects but will have a profound effect on his strength.<span style="color: #FF0000">I agree with everything you guys have been saying, but feel like saying a dose of 250-300mg will have minimal if any negative side effects is off a little. They can still have HPTA suppression along with all the other side effects. Anyone who has taken a cycle has had at least one negative side effect while on or during PCT, they just don't want to admit it. We have to be careful saying things like that due to the nature of people who are reading this. I would say none are going to have a doctor regulating their blood test every week or constantly monitoring and adjusting things for them, and most won't put the time into figuring out exactly what they should take and how to take it carefully. </span>
Some steroids have a detections life of a very very long time others is very short and difficult to test for.
HGH is only detectible for about 5-6 hrs as far as i know and thats only checked by what the body IGF levels are , an anthelete can take 5iu HGH with 10 iu Humulin-R 3 times a day and completly mutate his body by adding on a HUGE amount of dense muscle mass , Ive seen it happen! a 37yr old friend ran this protocal for 10 months and when from competeing as a middle weight to competing as a light heavy weight body builder ,the actual weight gain was 23 pound i think and thats actual lean muscle!!
For every rule and test they make thousands of people are working on a way around it </div></div>
That was it,
Cheers
