I have a Kimber, Sig, Ed Brown, Wilson Combat in .45 ACP...........they all shoot well, but my EDC is a Wilson Combat EDCX9.......
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Suggestions for a CCW, but has to be .45ACP
- Thread starter Peepaw
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My choice for a 1911 CCW. Springfield Armory Champion. You can get it with or without the bob tail. I also like the VZ thin grips. I like the G Code Incog holster for this gun.
I'll add another vote for Glock 30. Carried one for about 12 years as a CCW. About two years ago started carrying a Keltec P11 for size reduction. I still carry the 30 depending on where or when I'm going, back up mag is a G21. G21 is nightstand gun.
My EDC is a Beretta Px4 full size in 9mm and stainless as I'm a DA/SA Hammer Fired pistol whore but they make the same gun in .45 ACP...
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Rotating barrel means the recoil/muzzle flip is (truly) much reduced over the 1911/Browning design...mag cap is huge. I have had Glocks and love them but will not carry them as a CCL. I shoot them fine but prefer hammer fired DA/SA pistols with de cockers. If the OP absolutley must have a .45 ACP but is wanting to branch out from the 1911 design I suggest the Beretta Px4 Storm...haven't shot one but my 9mm Storm rocks like a mini machine gun and I highly recommend a test drive if you can arrange that.
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Rotating barrel means the recoil/muzzle flip is (truly) much reduced over the 1911/Browning design...mag cap is huge. I have had Glocks and love them but will not carry them as a CCL. I shoot them fine but prefer hammer fired DA/SA pistols with de cockers. If the OP absolutley must have a .45 ACP but is wanting to branch out from the 1911 design I suggest the Beretta Px4 Storm...haven't shot one but my 9mm Storm rocks like a mini machine gun and I highly recommend a test drive if you can arrange that.
VooDoo
i had a wilson combat professional lightweight in .45 that was a pretty nice carry gun. if you have a buncha 1911's in .45, this would suit you pretty good. i just wanted a little more capacity than a .45 single stack allows. current carry is a glock 43x, 15 rounds of 9mm with aftermarket metal mags.
I carry a Springfield XDs .45 at work. One of the easier firearms to conceal, even with the +1 mag. I needed a compact handgun, since I’m always bending and crawling, and I’m technically not supposed to carry at work, so I have to keep it out of sight. I appendix carry it, and am very pleased how it rides.
When I’m not at work, my go-to is a Glock 19.
When I’m not at work, my go-to is a Glock 19.
I rebuild/customize 1911s for myself and clients; have a fleet of them. But if you're serious about CCW: Sig P220 carry all day, every day.
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Carried a Government Model since before we knew it was too big and heavy to carry. Too old to change now.
Ditto. Pretty much every response can be summed up as, "What I carry is best," and every response is correct...for that person. Same with ammo, reloading equipment, scopes, sex toys...
I have really liked my HK45c. Reliable, very concealable, and a few places can mill out the slide for a red dot if you want. Capacity isn't the greatest though.
Xdm 45 was my first ccw, double stack, easy to conceal, and way more shootable than the Xds.
Xds is easy to conceal, but mine jammed at the range so I have to put a lot more rounds through it before I really trust it. Shootable, but not fun to run tons of mags through at one time.
Glock 21 is the easiest to rack the slide (that matters to some people) but obviously big to conceal, but some have managed. A haley strategic trigger helps the usual glock creep.
M&p 45 is fine, not my favorite or my least favorite, just kind of white bread...
Xdm 45 was my first ccw, double stack, easy to conceal, and way more shootable than the Xds.
Xds is easy to conceal, but mine jammed at the range so I have to put a lot more rounds through it before I really trust it. Shootable, but not fun to run tons of mags through at one time.
Glock 21 is the easiest to rack the slide (that matters to some people) but obviously big to conceal, but some have managed. A haley strategic trigger helps the usual glock creep.
M&p 45 is fine, not my favorite or my least favorite, just kind of white bread...
I knew I wanted Glock in 45 ACP so went to my local range and shot every model they had. The only one that felt at all comfortable was the G21. Actually got a blister after just a mag with the 36. I figured I'd rather be a little uncomfortable carrying a large gun than really uncomfortable shooting a smaller one. I'm 6' 205-240 pounds (before/after holidays!) and don't have a problem with an IWB holster with a light shirt or t-shirt, or even an OWB under a big loose shirt/jacket/hoodie. Gun does pinch a bit after a few hours in the car, but then I could also just take it out and put it on or under the seat! Don't really notice it walking around or doing stuff.
One suggestion for a lot of in and out of a vehicle.
My favorite style of holster has what the manufacturer describes as an FBI cant or sweep.
The barrel tilts back a bit and I find more comfortable for the in and out muliple stops.
It also draws well.
Nothing fancy just a mans regular.
My favorite style of holster has what the manufacturer describes as an FBI cant or sweep.
The barrel tilts back a bit and I find more comfortable for the in and out muliple stops.
It also draws well.
Nothing fancy just a mans regular.
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If you’re going to limit your capacity with a fat round, why not go 10mm and at least get something out of the deal?
I've never limited my capacity. I always load the mags with eight rounds...and carry spares.
I mean normally a gun that’s offered in 9 or 45, if you got 8 of 45 the same gun would take more rounds in the 9mm model
For sure, to each their own, but in that context I’d CCW a 22LR, actually the 380 version of my CCW shoots much smoother and nicer than my 9.
I just figure a CCW is a straight combat weapon, <7yrd shots, high stress, if it can go wrong it will, reloads might not be practical, as much energy on target as fast as possible.
Based on the CCTV shooting videos I’ve seen, gel tests, etc I don’t get 45 outside of the romance of it, I’d love to have a WWII 45 1911, but not for CCW duty.
For the task 9mm HSTs seem to make sense, something can also be said for 40 capacity to energy ratio, outside of human type threats 357sig (kinda sorta), 10mm makes tons of sense, 44mag and up if you’re way up north, I just can’t wrap my head around 45, 380, etc. However based on some of the homicides in ghetto areas, 380s 22s 410s and kitchen knives all seem to be able to stack bodies, I just think with foresight and the ability to choose, if you’re going to sacrifice quantity for diameter, why not just go 10mm.
Like quarters in a video game, more you have the longer you’re going to be in the game, if I’m giving up my game time I really need each round to count quantifiably so
To each their own
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For sure, to each their own, but in that context I’d CCW a 22LR, actually the 380 version of my CCW shoots much smoother and nicer than my 9.
I just figure a CCW is a straight combat weapon, <7yrd shots, high stress, if it can go wrong it will, reloads might not be practical, as much energy on target as fast as possible.
Based on the CCTV shooting videos I’ve seen, gel tests, etc I don’t get 45 outside of the romance of it, I’d love to have a WWII 45 1911, but not for CCW duty.
For the task 9mm HSTs seem to make sense, something can also be said for 40 capacity to energy ratio, outside of human type threats 357sig (kinda sorta), 10mm makes tons of sense, 44mag and up if you’re way up north, I just can’t wrap my head around 45, 380, etc. However based on some of the homicides in ghetto areas, 380s 22s 410s and kitchen knives all seem to be able to stack bodies, I just think with foresight and the ability to choose, if you’re going to sacrifice quantity for diameter, why not just go 10mm.
Like quarters in a video game, more you have the longer you’re going to be in the game, if I’m giving up my game time I really need each round to count quantifiably so
To each their own
Knew a guy that lived and breathed tactical journals. He once scoffed at the notion of me carrying a back up mag as gunfights lasted three seconds/three rounds. I said, "So, you only load three rounds?"
I go back to one of my earlier posts: Started carrying a Government Model before we knew it was to big and too heavy. In 30 years I suspect younger generations will scoff at Glocks for carry. As Prof Massey said, "You are what you were when."
For sure, to each their own, but in that context I’d CCW a 22LR, actually the 380 version of my CCW shoots much smoother and nicer than my 9.
I just figure a CCW is a straight combat weapon, <7yrd shots, high stress, if it can go wrong it will, reloads might not be practical, as much energy on target as fast as possible.
Based on the CCTV shooting videos I’ve seen, gel tests, etc I don’t get 45 outside of the romance of it, I’d love to have a WWII 45 1911, but not for CCW duty.
For the task 9mm HSTs seem to make sense, something can also be said for 40 capacity to energy ratio, outside of human type threats 357sig (kinda sorta), 10mm makes tons of sense, 44mag and up if you’re way up north, I just can’t wrap my head around 45, 380, etc. However based on some of the homicides in ghetto areas, 380s 22s 410s and kitchen knives all seem to be able to stack bodies, I just think with foresight and the ability to choose, if you’re going to sacrifice quantity for diameter, why not just go 10mm.
Like quarters in a video game, more you have the longer you’re going to be in the game, if I’m giving up my game time I really need each round to count quantifiably so
To each their own
Many folks live in states that limit the amount of freedom a gun can carry.
In that case a .45 is a really nice option.
10mm (in a power load that is worth having) is often too snappy for a lot of folks, especially out of a light gun.
9mm has capacity going for it and smaller / thinner / lighter guns.
Sure you can make yourself feel good about the 9mm by watching a bunch of YouTube videos where some 9mm evangelist runs the latest, greatest +P+ 9mm SD round vs some old 1911 ball ammo. Try that same test again using the latest greatest +P .45 ACP ammunition and things come out differently.
The usual reason carrying a .45 isn't done as much, is size and weight.
Nobody has ever wanted to have less rounds in a fight, but at the same time, whatever gun you can hit most accurately, first shot and then repeat shots with is probably going to trump most other points in an actual fight.
I hear ya, but I’ll say right now if a Star Trek phaser came out, I’d CCW it
What round has a faster target reacquisition time 9 or 45?
Statist BS “laws” aside, If pistol X in 45 takes 40% less ammo in the same frame, will each round of 45 do 140% the damage of a the same FMJHP in 9?
For me, with critical gun stuff like CCW, it’s like vaccinations, I just weigh the numbers between both options and pick the best number and train to proficiency with said equipment.
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Most likely yes, depending on ammunition.
A lot depends on the threat.
Generally if you are looking at a lone attacker you probably won't be shooting more than 5 or so regardless.
If you are throwing a party for Antifa and need to bring enough party favours for everyone, then capacity rules
(and where is your AR?) Same goes for a home invasion group.
So you’re saying a 45 HST will do 140% the damage of a 9 HST?
In a Alamo situation, it’s ether to get to your rifle/cover, or it’s going to be just making them earn it before you’re dead, thankfully those situations seem pretty rare.
I’ve also seen in many of the group attack videos, when the first guys head goes pop, the rest run away most of the time.
In many home invasions just the sight of the gun with a aggressive home owner behind it gets them running, that worked for me in that situation
I think for many, if rounds are fired it’s going to be at one attacker or one coyote/aggressive dog.
I bought some tape custom made for the xds that fills some of the 'cheese grater' grip. I usually run about 4 or 5 magazines at a time at the range and I've never experienced chaffing on my hands. I work outside on a farm but have pretty soft hands. I like the gun because it's easy to conceal, I shoot it really well and really quick considering it's a 3.3" .45 acp. I shoot it better and faster than I do my sig 938. Damn nice little gun that makes at least .45" holes.
@EddieNFL and @TurboTrout The 1911 weighs in at 40 oz. 1.2" thick, the Glock 21 is 38 oz. 1.34" thick, and the Glock 30 is 34 oz. 1.38" thick (Empty weights thickness from web sites. I can weigh and post if anyone wants real world numbers.) Golden Sabre .45 ACP +P185 gn chronos at 1013 fps avg from the Glock 30 (10 round average my gear). I never felt under gunned with the 30 and +P's. The .45 +P's are the same velocity as 10mm Federal Hydra Shok, but low end for some of the higher pressure 10mm, Buffalo Bore, etc..
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From what I've read, shouldn't you just rack the action on an 870?
See, too big and heavy to carry. If I had known that in 1974, who knows what I would carry.
I count on the size of the muzzle to just scare away any threats.
Gov 1911 in one hand, dick in the other. Aint nobody messing with that.
@Peepaw , not sure if you mentioned how you wanted to carry. If it's IWB, a 1911 variant is gonna be slim and probably comfortable. If OWB but under a jacket or something and you really want to keep it concealed, again a 1911 variant will be a good one. If you want OWB and don't really care about it being "concealed", a glock, Springfield, or S&W will do you fine, or even a HK USP Compact (it's not THAT compact) or the HK45 Compact. Biggest downside to the HK45 is that it only holds 8rnds standard and the extended 10-round mags are hard to get ahold of. USPC mags are easier to find, I think. As for the no-thumb-safety-on-a-glock thing, there are thumb safety kits you can install/have installed and AFAIK Glock will still keep the pistol under warranty if it's installed, if that's an issue for you.
I'm not sure 9mm is up to the task either. I saw a video of that female cop who emptied a complete mag in-between clearing a stoppage like a champ and that was barely enough. I'm not sure many could have done a better job than her, yet that weapon was almost not enough. She was definitely walking the line. Do we have videos of .45 acp doing the same thing? I haven't seen any. It may just be that handguns in general suck and that is the best you can do. It sure was not impressive other than her skills. Looking at her i never would have guessed she had that level of skill in a pressure situation.For sure, to each their own, but in that context I’d CCW a 22LR, actually the 380 version of my CCW shoots much smoother and nicer than my 9.
I just figure a CCW is a straight combat weapon, <7yrd shots, high stress, if it can go wrong it will, reloads might not be practical, as much energy on target as fast as possible.
Based on the CCTV shooting videos I’ve seen, gel tests, etc I don’t get 45 outside of the romance of it, I’d love to have a WWII 45 1911, but not for CCW duty.
For the task 9mm HSTs seem to make sense, something can also be said for 40 capacity to energy ratio, outside of human type threats 357sig (kinda sorta), 10mm makes tons of sense, 44mag and up if you’re way up north, I just can’t wrap my head around 45, 380, etc. However based on some of the homicides in ghetto areas, 380s 22s 410s and kitchen knives all seem to be able to stack bodies, I just think with foresight and the ability to choose, if you’re going to sacrifice quantity for diameter, why not just go 10mm.
Like quarters in a video game, more you have the longer you’re going to be in the game, if I’m giving up my game time I really need each round to count quantifiably so
To each their own
This is of course is completely unscientific and only my observation but during my Fire/EMS days I went to a shit ton of GSW's. If it was an indoor shooting and the empty brass was visible as I recall I never had a live victim with .45ACP brass around. If the patient was alive of course we weren't looking around we were in load and go mode, and rarely did we ever later hear what caliber was involved. But if we had time I saw a lot of dead ones that got dead from .45ACP. Just my observations
I agree, the Sig P220 would be very excellent. It is narrow enough to CCW relatively easily. Carries 8 rounds, and uses single stack mags. Gray Guns makes aftermarket trigger parts, which are great. I have 7 Sigs, and they all have GGI upgrade parts.
Not much of a 870 guy, in my case it was a SVI .40, frankly I’m glad they ran, at the time I didn’t have the $100k or so it costs to avoid getting victimized by the state, for not allowing myself to be victimized by some would be home invasion scum bags.
