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You can't go wrong with any of the offerings from Furman, available both in a rack format and as something similar to a surge protector that you just plug into any old outlet. Just note that their SS-6B power strip has relatively minimal filtration/actual power conditioning and is mostly a surge protector, whereas the PST-8 and PST-8 DIG provide more robust filtering.
That said, for the average user the filtering present in the SS-6B is more than sufficient unless you've got some insanely large capacitive or inductive loads on the same circuit as your scale. Even if you do have those loads on the same circuit it still won't affect things enough to cause measurable differences in your loaded ammunition (as I mentioned earlier, you'll likely see a +/- 0.04gr variance at the most) but keeping it on a separate circuit from noisy appliances (dryers, AC, heaters, fridge, gaming/workstation computers with heavy current draw) is just a general best practice and provides peace of mind.
This post on "as" indicates these devices fixes noise/drift/interferance.
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I’m on a separate circuit in my reloading room - only other things running on the same circuit is my computer and printer but on another outlet. For lighting I use LEDs and those are on another circuit. I ended up with a Furman M8x2 rack mounted unit because my brother in law does AV work and happened to have one to give me for free.
Unfortunately, this is getting off topic.
@ThePretzel you’ve made your point with posted data and such. @orkan has decided how he’s willing to respond. Regardless of anyone’s intentions, it’s just deteriorating.
So, let’s take any further discussion to PM’s before things get any more personal, por favor.
Thanks
@ThePretzel you’ve made your point with posted data and such. @orkan has decided how he’s willing to respond. Regardless of anyone’s intentions, it’s just deteriorating.
So, let’s take any further discussion to PM’s before things get any more personal, por favor.
Thanks
Still there if you use the search bar.
With the availability shortage they reported on electronics, they likely just made it harder to find to cut down on the what I’m sure are daily inquiries about it.
With the availability shortage they reported on electronics, they likely just made it harder to find to cut down on the what I’m sure are daily inquiries about it.
Make a new thread. This one should be about the actual super trickler.
Thank you so much for pulling down the curtain and exposing the wizard, and for not getting sucked into his rhetorical tropes including straw man arguments, ad hominem, etc. ("So you're calling me a liar, huh?" - pretty sophomoric disputation if you ask me.) And for responding to that bluster and boisterous nonsense with reasoned answers and actual data and photos.
I'll take "evidence-based (or, the odious to orkan word "theoretical") reloading" over his "eminence-based reloading" (It's so because I'm so and so and I said so!), thank you very much.
Yeah I don't do fb anymore either. I'd love to see the thing in operation. I emailed the guy and he responded a while back, I bet he would send me an emailed video. He was really nice.
Isn't Orkan associated with Travis Stevens at TS Customs? His posts on here make me not want to spend any of my money, or have any business dealings whatsoever with anyone associated with Primal Rights in any shape or form.
No idea, but Travis is a fantastic, humble man whose work is impeccable.
I've heard the same from many, seen his stuff hammer at distance, and observed the excellent attention to detail.
Orkan sells TS customs barrels yes no secret there. And you are not the first to recognize that his personality - er, shall we call them quirks - make him notoriously difficult to deal with at times. But I don’t know if Travis deserves guild by association
NoDopes, thanks for posting those videos!
1. I love the color puce. It will match my toaster nicely.
2. Holy shit, the Superfiller! I never even imagined something like that. That thing's awesome, and I predict that the 'Hide is going to lose its collective shit when that comes out.
3. His workshop's amazing. It reminds me of Dr. Frankenstein. I think I saw a lightning rod that needs struck before the Superfiller comes alive.
1. I love the color puce. It will match my toaster nicely.
2. Holy shit, the Superfiller! I never even imagined something like that. That thing's awesome, and I predict that the 'Hide is going to lose its collective shit when that comes out.
3. His workshop's amazing. It reminds me of Dr. Frankenstein. I think I saw a lightning rod that needs struck before the Superfiller comes alive.
Looks like area419 is dropping the project according to the designer. Component shortages and such is the reason given. He seems to be attempting to move forward on his own.
Just an FYI for anyone waiting for the 419 version before buying an auto trickler and what not.
Just an FYI for anyone waiting for the 419 version before buying an auto trickler and what not.
Sometimes it's not who has the better product, but who's first to market.
Orkan commissions TS Customs on a lot of his builds, barrels, gunsmithing work. If you buying from Orkan he will ensure the quality is up to his standards, test your gun, build a load, break it in, whatever you want to pay him to do. They are separate companies and are not affiliated. I have commissioned several builds from both and both are fantastic to deal with. Both extremely knowledgeable, willing to listen and help with whatever application you need. Most importantly, they both answer the phone when you call. When I was just getting started in reloading I was using another smith and came across Orkan's company and gave him a call, he was more than happy to walk me through the basics over several hours. Since then we have had many conversations and he has never lead me in the wrong direction.
Travis's work is flawless, his attention to detail is the best I've seen and his rifle's flat out perform. He would have to be flawless to satisfy Orkan's standards. Usually when Orkan gets irritated is when some one is trying to tell others something that they have never tested, proven or even have a clue and is just flat out wrong.
Just my 2 cents
Too bad about the Supertrickler. The biggest problem with the AT, and I haven't tried V4 yet, is that they were unable to reduce the size of the platen, so any spill gets "counted" and that the reaching in and around is kind of annoying. It looked like the Supertrickler fixed that in a similar way to the chargemaster, that the functional platen is no larger than the cup.
I guess all of the problem is having to work with the physical architecture of the scale, unlike the Chargemaster or Matchmaster, which has the budget to create an ergonomic product, but apparently not one with the level of precision, though I guess the Matchmaster, which I also have not tried, is pretty close.
I guess all of the problem is having to work with the physical architecture of the scale, unlike the Chargemaster or Matchmaster, which has the budget to create an ergonomic product, but apparently not one with the level of precision, though I guess the Matchmaster, which I also have not tried, is pretty close.
This looks fantastic!
Maybe another company will help to produce/market them here. If they are near the AT V4 price, I'm all in to beta test!
Maybe another company will help to produce/market them here. If they are near the AT V4 price, I'm all in to beta test!
I'm not holding my breath; these things take time. My V4 should be up and running for a year before the Supertrickler is seen in the wild, I'll wager.
Got my V4 and compared to the speed that this thing is dropping at I'll switch if it materializes. I've posted my speeds in the V4 thread, and from the video the Super Trickler is *much* faster.....
The V4 is tunable for both speed of each funnel and transition delta. You can also tweak the angle to adjust the large throw speed and validate with calibration. I'm pretty sure you can match exactly what's in that video with the V4. Notice, it overthrow 1 in 5 in just that video.
I'll up the speeds from the 5 to 7 maybe... but, it's dropping most of it charges .02 under with a few over as well. Reloder 15, 41 grains was averaging 25 to 28 seconds, with some going into 30+. Took me hours to drop 500.
The videos I've seen, the V4 was throwing charges in about 12 seconds is this not an accurate representation?
Run the calibration and screen shot the results from the settings area. Flow rate needs to be between .15 and .2, that is angle of lid. Then you can adjust speeds. I am dropping 34.5 of RL15.5 every 10 seconds on average.
I did the calibration but made no adjustments. I'll have to try this next time I'm dropping powder... I'd love to see 10 seconds!
I saw that on their FB page too.
It is an unfortunate thing for all involved and will have an influence on the circuit board issues as well as their regulatory and import/export logistics. The CE hurdles are something that must always be on the minds of designers trying to sell on multiple continents. Not hard to say this is a set back, but very hard to say how much of a set back.
I've dropped over 1000 charges with the V4 so far... 500 on Thanksgiving Day, out of the box it's taking 25 to 28 seconds to drop 41 grains of Reloder 15. That's my results without any of this tuning. So, it's in use accurate for me. I'll try on tweak it to get some better speeds.
Took it out of the box and used it. Followed the 'calibration' instructions nothing deeper then that. Most new knives are already sharp out of the box. Had no idea each type of powder requires all this tuning. Edited: Until I got the V4 and read the manual
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Much less. Just play with cup. Slightly off from being directly under dispenser. Can't see it in picture but dispessing hole is towards the back of the powder dispenser. I am seeing way less splash. I had maybe 3 or 4 in 200+ throws.
Nice. Is the app the same as for the V3? My V3 app has basically no functionality other than set a charge and go, so I am guessing the app just gives dominion over the on board controls, and there are more on board controls on v4?
