I am looking to get my first suppressor, it's going on a 7mm bolt action rifle. My main concern is sound reduction. budget is $1000 or less. Can't find any real good comparisons on youtube, was wondering if anyone had some insight on which suppressors are best for ahunting set up.
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Suppressor for hunting set up.
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Try doing a search on this site. Lots of info on suppressors and real world testing. TBAC ultra 9 is what I use but above your price range. They have tons of info on here and are very active on the forum
I use Sico Harvesters and Harvester Evo's. Lightweight and good sound reduction. Well below your price point. Also have a couple of Dead Air Nomad Ti's - but they might be slightly above your selected budget.
I'll look into those. been looking at the dead air nomad L, any comment on that one?
I would probably throw it on an AR once or twice just to try it out, but want to get a separate can for those. this would primarily stay on the hunting rifle.
I'd go for the Zorg KMA69. It's the best out there. Leeloo has one.
Sorry, couldn't help but make a few Fifth Element jokes based on your username.Seriously though... Get you an Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L, and buy one of their ZR0-DTA 5/8-24 mounts. It's the best setup. I'm running it on my custom Browning A-Bolt II 7mm RemMag, and it sounds amazing. It will be my lightweight deer setup.
Otter Creek Hydrogen L 7.62mm – Hansohn Brothers
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Here's a video I made of it on mine. There's lots of other videos of the Hydrogen-L on my channel, as well.
Great can, but kinda heavy ( 18 oz. ) for a precision LR gun. They make a Ti version, but it's a little pricier.
TB Dominus CB - more than your budget, but it is a great go to can.
If you are looking at Hunting, might I suggest the Jager from AAC? Hunting is actually the least intensive use of suppressors, but the greatest need for lightweight. The Jager is well priced.
You can never go wrong with TBAC, and we are dealers fro CGS, TBAC, Dead Air, AAC and others. I just do not know that you need to spend TBAC money.
You can never go wrong with TBAC, and we are dealers fro CGS, TBAC, Dead Air, AAC and others. I just do not know that you need to spend TBAC money.
You don't say 7mm what.
I run a .300 wm rated can for my 7mm rem mag, 6.5x55, 7-08 and .308. Works very well for all 4.
I would recommend a magnum rated can.
If you want lightweight, you're going to want titanium. If you want titanium, you're going to pay for it. Raw materials have gone up in price significantly in the last 2 years.
Do you have to have titanium from an accuracy standpoint? No.
SS/inconel cans can be very accurate, but the additional weight tends to cause a larger poi shift.
Go to the silencer shop website and look at some of their offerings in order to get an idea of price. Narrow down your choices and check reviews.
I run a .300 wm rated can for my 7mm rem mag, 6.5x55, 7-08 and .308. Works very well for all 4.
I would recommend a magnum rated can.
If you want lightweight, you're going to want titanium. If you want titanium, you're going to pay for it. Raw materials have gone up in price significantly in the last 2 years.
Do you have to have titanium from an accuracy standpoint? No.
SS/inconel cans can be very accurate, but the additional weight tends to cause a larger poi shift.
Go to the silencer shop website and look at some of their offerings in order to get an idea of price. Narrow down your choices and check reviews.
Whatever you can afford from TBAC!
I have the dominus and like it a lot.
I have the dominus and like it a lot.
I'd go for the Zorg KMA69. It's the best out there. Leeloo has one.
Seriously though... Get you an Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L, and buy one of their ZR0-DTA 5/8-24 mounts. It's the best setup. I'm running it on my custom Browning A-Bolt II 7mm RemMag, and it sounds amazing. It will be my lightweight deer setup.
Otter Creek Hydrogen L 7.62mm – Hansohn Brothers
Otter Creek ZR0 DTA – Hansohn Brothers
Here's a video I made of it on mine. There's lots of other videos of the Hydrogen-L on my channel, as well.
i can't get ahold of leeloo... believe me i've tried, haha. Haven't heard of Otter Creek before, their stickers are cooler than the other guys. and thanks for the videos on your channel it was cool to see it in action.
I went to my local gun shop today and the guy i spoke with wouldn't stop talking about TB and how great their cans are. Are they really that much better than silencer co or dead air?
Dead Air Nomad series starts at about $800 for stainless steel, add $200 for the Ti version. KGM Tech R30 is $1000, AB Raptor is about $900-1000 depending on length. Hell the AAC Jaeger is supposed to be out soon and it runs about $600 but is made of aluminum not Ti.
I have a SiCo Harvester 300 on my hunting rifle. It's a very nice can and price is decent. I also have the TBAC Ultra 7. The Ultra 7 goes on my heavier use rifles since it's easier to clean. The Harvester is aluminum and stainless and most chemicals that remove carbon are harmful to aluminum.
I was just looking at your website and saw the Jager you were talking about, also noticed you had a OC hydrogen L. how does that compare to the Jager?
What's your opinion on the Jager? I was just looking at that one, cheap af. is it any good?
No firsthand experience, as AAC was part of Remington and went thru the whole debacle. It should work well for hunting use and be lightweight but it won't be robust for any other uses. Personally I would opt to go to something in titanium as it will be more versatile and robust. But its your $$$ to spend as you decide best suits your purposes.
Which 7mm?
For hunting id prioritize weight over sound, personally. You have to carry it way more than shoot it.
Regarding Thunder Beast, theyre just a gold standard for precision cans. Symmetrical blast baffles, and straightness that most others cant match. At least go full Ti on whatever you buy.
Pew Science has reviews and sound signature evaluations on many different suppressors. Some infomation requires a membership.
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Best is subjective.
And we really overthink when it comes to suppressors and focus too much on decibel ratings.
Does weight matter? Does length matter? How are you going to mount it? Is this suppressor going to be shared between different rifles or platforms, or just dedicated to this one rifle? How often are you going to shoot it?
Honestly, you don't need much too accomplish what you want. TBAC makes great cans, but not necessary if you are on a budget and it's a rifle that isn't going to get shot much. For a dedicated hunting rifle, the GAP Jager seems like a great choice.
And we really overthink when it comes to suppressors and focus too much on decibel ratings.
Does weight matter? Does length matter? How are you going to mount it? Is this suppressor going to be shared between different rifles or platforms, or just dedicated to this one rifle? How often are you going to shoot it?
Honestly, you don't need much too accomplish what you want. TBAC makes great cans, but not necessary if you are on a budget and it's a rifle that isn't going to get shot much. For a dedicated hunting rifle, the GAP Jager seems like a great choice.
Can you speak about your experience with the Evo a little more? That’s one I’ve pretty much landed on, but, because they are newer, not a lot of people have hands on experience with them. Would love to hear more about them.
Dead Air, Otter Creek, TBAC are all great cans. I wouldn't own a SilencerCo, AAC, or Q suppressor personally. Just my opinion.
The OCL Hydrogen-S and Hydrogen-L are both great cans. They're light, and with the ZR0-DTA direct-thread mount, my POI shift from suppressed/unsuppressed is virtually non-existent. They are precision cans. They are VERY quiet. And they are very lightweight. They have a great warranty, and great customer service. The Hydrogen-S sounds amazing on my .260 Rem and .308 Win. It's also the best all-around .300 BLK suppressor I've used. The Hydrogen-L is awesome for long-action cartridges and magnums.
I also have Dead Air Nomad-LT that I bought when they first dropped in December 2020. It's a great can, and is just as quiet as a Hydrogen-L. I use it on my bolt action bench rifles, because it's quite heavy once I added the KeyMo mount and the heavy duty thermal wrap. If I ran direct-thread, it would be a lot lighter, but since I swap suppressors around on those rifles for testing so much, I run KeyMo, which adds a good bit of weight to the end of your rifle.
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Forget about all the decibel pecker measuring. I would suggest you focus on weight, length, and negligible/repeatable impact on zero.
My hunting can is a TBAC Ultra 5. If I needed 2 hunting cans, I’d go buy another Ultra 5. Or maybe wince at the extra 1.25” and upgrade to the Dominus CB, it’s a bad mf’er as well.
My hunting can is a TBAC Ultra 5. If I needed 2 hunting cans, I’d go buy another Ultra 5. Or maybe wince at the extra 1.25” and upgrade to the Dominus CB, it’s a bad mf’er as well.
I've used lots of brands you can't get in the USA including some made by muffler shops in bumfuq africa. It's never made a difference to sound which one as long as it was set up to handle the gas volume.
All of the ones below are unavailable here in the USA but the Ase Utra are very high quality Finnish made. The CMG Recoil Reaper is a sort of mid-grade can biased toward recoil reduction over sound signature reduction but it does both quite nicely. .338WM is a bit big for my busted ass right shoulder in a light hunting rifle. With that can on it, no issues at all. The gigantic reflex jobbie was custom made by a gunsmith in South Africa that wanted to give the best sound reduction he could without making the can stick 2ft in front of the muzzle. It only adds 6-8" to the overall length but it's gotta be 2.5" across and about 20 inches long. It's a beast. In the USA pretty much any can that's going to be sold is pretty high quality just because you can't walk into a muffler shop and pick one up for 15 bucks.
Ase Utra on a .308win: very short and not so fat can. Hearing safe behind it, not to the side. I never notice it going off aimed at meat.
CMG Recoil Reaper on a .338WM: Super small can volume, maybe 10floz. Barely hearing safe behind it, not to the side. I never notice it going off while aimed at meat.
Log of Death reflex suppressor (1 level up from a muffler shop can) on a .375 Ruger: Not likely hearing safe but close and a lot nicer than bare muzzle. I only once noticed it going off while aimed at meat.
For my money, the bigger the chamber the bigger the can needs to be. Fancy baffle stacks might help but volume of can matters IME.
All of the ones below are unavailable here in the USA but the Ase Utra are very high quality Finnish made. The CMG Recoil Reaper is a sort of mid-grade can biased toward recoil reduction over sound signature reduction but it does both quite nicely. .338WM is a bit big for my busted ass right shoulder in a light hunting rifle. With that can on it, no issues at all. The gigantic reflex jobbie was custom made by a gunsmith in South Africa that wanted to give the best sound reduction he could without making the can stick 2ft in front of the muzzle. It only adds 6-8" to the overall length but it's gotta be 2.5" across and about 20 inches long. It's a beast. In the USA pretty much any can that's going to be sold is pretty high quality just because you can't walk into a muffler shop and pick one up for 15 bucks.
Ase Utra on a .308win: very short and not so fat can. Hearing safe behind it, not to the side. I never notice it going off aimed at meat.
CMG Recoil Reaper on a .338WM: Super small can volume, maybe 10floz. Barely hearing safe behind it, not to the side. I never notice it going off while aimed at meat.
Log of Death reflex suppressor (1 level up from a muffler shop can) on a .375 Ruger: Not likely hearing safe but close and a lot nicer than bare muzzle. I only once noticed it going off while aimed at meat.
For my money, the bigger the chamber the bigger the can needs to be. Fancy baffle stacks might help but volume of can matters IME.
I love my Dead Air Nomad, but wish I had sprung for the Nomad-TI. Even on my 22" barrel, it feels heavy out there making it harder to control accuracy.
I don't expect my hunting can to make something like my 280AI hearing safe -> therefore I want something as light as possible to muffle the sound and blast enough to be foam-e safe.
I agree with these statements in a general sense. You can't overcome physics and size matters. Of course we would need one of the mad scientists to chime in and correct us where we are mistaken. I do believe there is some magic that can be accomplished with baffle geometry, alignment, and spacing but there appears to be no replacement for displacement. The Ultra series from Thunderbeast was improved with the Gen 2 baffles so there is some secret sauce, not just volume.
Is AAC doing any business... Or should I say good business anymore. I got my first can from them about 15 years ago, and they had a huge following. They were also one of a few companies out there in the main stream selling cans. That being said, I've since purchased 2 more cans from them about 3 years ago, but my latest 2 cans I had to go elsewhere. It doesn't seem (atleast to me) that they give a damn about the consumer but then again, look who now owns them. With the choices on the market now I'd probably steer clear of them... It's a shame too because they used to be great people to deal with.
You would need a full mouth of paint chips to buy anything AAC versus what is currently available from their competitors.
Thunderbeast seems to always get the nod here, but I've taken far more animals with my Silencerco Omega and the titanium CGS Helios. Find the deal, and make your decision. You'll then have 5 months or so to lament about it.
TBAC Dominus.. it's 6" long and quieter than most 9" cans.
Look for a 50% cert on the PX and that should get you close to your $1k price point.
For an NFA item like a suppressor, I would never recommend compromising on what you actually want to hit a price point.. the wait, tax stamp and fact you are stuck with them.. the buy once, cry once policy applies.
Look for a 50% cert on the PX and that should get you close to your $1k price point.
For an NFA item like a suppressor, I would never recommend compromising on what you actually want to hit a price point.. the wait, tax stamp and fact you are stuck with them.. the buy once, cry once policy applies.
This is the truth. For everything that is involved in getting into a suppressor, I can't comprehend compromising to save a couple hundred bucks.
Shit, skip one date night with the lady and you can make up the difference. She'll understand
Am I right in thinking that if you go with a cert, you end up in two wait lines? A year or so for TBAC to issue a serial number, then the ATF wait?
Yes. Seems like a stupid way to save a few bucks....
I can't speak to TBAC's current wait time, but yes.. you wait for SN then you wait for tax stamp.
I plan on doing a Surefire SOCOM 762 RC2 on my 7mm RemMag in the relatively near future. Or maybe a Silencer Co "Harvester" we'll see what strikes my fancy at when I'm actually looking to buy.
With your price range of $1000 you're looking at a $700 suppressor + $200 tax + dealer transfer/holding fee (varies $50-200 from what I've seen).
Save more, or otherwise stop being poor.
This is my recommendation as well. I did the Dominus K SR. Nice and short, keeps the rifle easy to handle, and has secondary retention which i require for hunting. Wounding an animal because of a baffle strike is a shitty way to end a hunt, spending the next three days hunting for a small, black, federally-regulated tube somewhere in the mountains is even shittier.
Also, i agree with the buy once, cry once and will take it a step further. Go with a reputable company that has some staying power. A friend of mine got a whiz-bang ultralight 338 suppressor that was supposed to be able to take the big cheytac-based cases (I'm sure some of you can guess which manufacturer). Got the can out of jail a year later and realized the adapter breaks were wrong, went to call their customer service and the line was disconnected. Sure as shit, they'd gone under in the time between buying the can and actually taking possession of it. So now he's stuck with a can that can't even attach to the rifle he bought it for.
My $.02
Yeah i know i'm neurotic... But I've had cans work loose and caught it before anything bad happened and it scared the shit out of me.
I bet more cans have been launched with secondary retention than those without...
I like my Rex silentium mg7 more than my sico omega and harvester. A lot cheaper and shorter too.
I use tbac 7 or my trash panda. Regardless what people think about Q, it works pretty well on my 18” 6.5 creed.
For a hunting can, weight was the most important factor for me, followed by price. TBAC has a great reputation on this site, but I picked up a SiCo Harvester 300 for my .30-06 and would not hesitate to use the newer (and lighter) Harvester Evo. I’d choose something else if the can was going to see use on another gun but the price to weight ratio was right for my application. And to me the real answer is (most) any can is better than no can.
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