Suppressor Legal states

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Anyone know were I could find the states list were Suppressors are Legal/ illegal?


Nevermind I just googled and found it and my state (OH) IS legal but what a F@#$ing hassle the shit you have to go thru to get it. Damn.
 
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there could be some revisions to this list by now...so double check, but it will give you a good idea.

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#6
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All depends on where you live in Ohio.

Medina County sheriff, bless his heart, is very pro gun, and is more than happy to sign off on the forms for SBR's, suppressors, MG's, etc.

One day, I'll take him up on his generosity.

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Damn flipping Minnesota, for that reason alone I hate this state... I wonder how hard it would be to get that over turned...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gunman_7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn flipping Minnesota, for that reason alone I hate this state... I wonder how hard it would be to get that over turned... </div></div>

for one person? nearly impossible.....
for a few hundred, easier then you think.
 
#11
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I could find people, but I wouldn't even know where to begin with something like that, wish I did though. If someone has any idea of the process please let me know, I'd be willing to go head first into it....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone know were I could find the states list were Suppressors are Legal/ illegal?


Nevermind I just googled and found it and my state (OH) IS legal but what a F@#$ing hassle the shit you have to go thru to get it. Damn. </div></div>
Are you serious? Just be glad that individual ownership is legal in your state. In California not even LE officers and soldiers can own suppressors - the departments and branches of service own them.

Keith
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone know were I could find the states list were Suppressors are Legal/ illegal?


Nevermind I just googled and found it and my state (OH) IS legal but what a F@#$ing hassle the shit you have to go thru to get it. Damn. </div></div>

It isn't a hassle.It is what it is. Plenty of guys here have done it,with no issues. I can't wait until I move out of New Jerseystan- I'll be getting 2 cans immediately.Either set up a Revocable Living Trust-no Chief LEO signoff. Or if you have a cooperative Chief-get signed off and send the forms to BATF.If you want one you have to do it.
 
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I just got mine on Friday and I live in Ohio. I decided to go the LLC route and it was pretty painless. My wait time was three months and three weeks, so one week shy of four months.

Is it worth it? well... that depends. The total cost with the creation of the LLC was $1250 (650 suppressor, 400 for LLC, 200 for stamp)

The guy I bought mine from is a hide member and a great dealer. PM me and I will give you his name. I went out to the range with him before I bought it and was able to listen to standard rounds vs. subsonic etc, so I highly recommend him.
 
#17
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I forgot to mention that a good dealer will be able to walk you through the process.Not to mention pick out the right can for the right stick. I want one for 50BMG and one for 338LM. There are too many Politician's watching TV thinking a can is a SILENCER-actually REQUIRING THEM would make it easier to operate a shooting range with much less noise signature.

But that would require responsible legislators...an oxymoron.

Once I taste freedom....
 
#18
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raginbullsht</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got mine on Friday and I live in Ohio. I decided to go the LLC route and it was pretty painless. My wait time was three months and three weeks, so one week shy of four months.

Is it worth it? well... that depends. The total cost with the creation of the LLC was $1250 (650 suppressor, 400 for LLC, 200 for stamp)

The guy I bought mine from is a hide member and a great dealer. PM me and I will give you his name. I went out to the range with him before I bought it and was able to listen to standard rounds vs. subsonic etc, so I highly recommend him. </div></div>

Not bagging on you, but I'll never understand the LLC route. If for any reason you're LLC goes under or is found to be a false LLC then that voids the transfer and you're then in possession of a Class 3 item illegally, and it costs a start up fee and 90% of the time its an annual fee to keep it open.

As for the OP, it is not a hassle. Just time consuming. Create a valid living trust, puts some SH*T you own in it and get it notarized with some witnesses. Buy the suppressor(s), fill out the form 4's using you're trusts names, pay the $200.00 tax, and just wait. Its really simple.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LSUbeatUby40</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raginbullsht</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got mine on Friday and I live in Ohio. I decided to go the LLC route and it was pretty painless. My wait time was three months and three weeks, so one week shy of four months.

Is it worth it? well... that depends. The total cost with the creation of the LLC was $1250 (650 suppressor, 400 for LLC, 200 for stamp)

The guy I bought mine from is a hide member and a great dealer. PM me and I will give you his name. I went out to the range with him before I bought it and was able to listen to standard rounds vs. subsonic etc, so I highly recommend him. </div></div>

Not bagging on you, but I'll never understand the LLC route. If for any reason you're LLC goes under or is found to be a false LLC then that voids the transfer and you're then in possession of a Class 3 item illegally, and it costs a start up fee and 90% of the time its an annual fee to keep it open.

As for the OP, it is not a hassle. Just time consuming. Create a valid living trust, puts some SH*T you own in it and get it notarized with some witnesses. Buy the suppressor(s), fill out the form 4's using you're trusts names, pay the $200.00 tax, and just wait. Its really simple. </div></div>

Actually, mine was setup by my attorney and he has done this for a few others as well. The legal reason for going with an LLC is to remove any potential liability of the owner (and you can add additional partners to the LLC, so multiple users) and transfer of the suppressor is as easy as selling the LLC. If you read up on the LLC rules it is an obvious choice.
 
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I also don't know how an LLC can be a "false LLC" It is pretty easy to file the taxes as zero with the schedule C tax from ( which is fine and legal)

I can sell my suppressor legally tomorrow to a person if I sell my LLC to a person. This does not require a secondary tax stamp... expensive, but if someone wants a suppressor tomorrow, they would pay the fee.
 
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After talking to my Class 3 dealer, and telling him how I was going to use them, for my own personal use, he told me that the living trust was the way to go. He has dealt with a lot of guys both with the LLC and the living trust and if I was not wanting to add anyone to the LLC so they can use them then there would be no real advantage over the living trust, and selling them is no problem either when in the living trust. Anyway if you end up getting one be prepared to get more you can't have just one. I wanted one for my 223 but know have them for that and 308, 22lr, 45, 9mm and one for my 338 lapua waiting on the paperwork to clear.
 
#23
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goin'Hot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If your state is ohio, you need to change your profile to reflect that. </div></div>

I just moved, didnt know it was that big of a deal.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gunman_7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Damn flipping Minnesota, for that reason alone I hate this state... I wonder how hard it would be to get that over turned... </div></div>

i talked to our NRA rep in MN. a few years ago, he had no interest in doing anything. I have also written my state congressman, no return reply. He is supposedly pro=gun. More like pro re=election , like the rest of them. Maybe we could get Joe Olson involved.
 
#26
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So what can we do to overturn this? I know the LE's had to have the law changed so they could use cans to shoot out street lights in certain situations. Does anyone have a state congressman/woman that will face the harpies and sponsor a bill?
We would first need to get solid information to disseminate to him or her. Then we would need to educate the public and other legislators to the hollywood falsehoods. Information about hearing loss, quietness would be helpful. Neighbors of shooting ranges may be on board. Not sure if getting them allowed for hunting would be possible, read DNR, but it would be nice to start with target shooting and varmint control.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sparks1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So what can we do to overturn this? I know the LE's had to have the law changed so they could use cans to shoot out street lights in certain situations. Does anyone have a state congressman/woman that will face the harpies and sponsor a bill?
We would first need to get solid information to disseminate to him or her. Then we would need to educate the public and other legislators to the hollywood falsehoods. Information about hearing loss, quietness would be helpful. Neighbors of shooting ranges may be on board. Not sure if getting them allowed for hunting would be possible, read DNR, but it would be nice to start with target shooting and varmint control. </div></div>

Your efforts would best be utilized by MOVING to a Can Friendly location. There is one thing that changes laws: BIG MONEY. Sad but true.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raginbullsht</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LSUbeatUby40</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: raginbullsht</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got mine on Friday and I live in Ohio. I decided to go the LLC route and it was pretty painless. My wait time was three months and three weeks, so one week shy of four months.

Is it worth it? well... that depends. The total cost with the creation of the LLC was $1250 (650 suppressor, 400 for LLC, 200 for stamp)

The guy I bought mine from is a hide member and a great dealer. PM me and I will give you his name. I went out to the range with him before I bought it and was able to listen to standard rounds vs. subsonic etc, so I highly recommend him. </div></div>

Not bagging on you, but I'll never understand the LLC route. If for any reason you're LLC goes under or is found to be a false LLC then that voids the transfer and you're then in possession of a Class 3 item illegally, and it costs a start up fee and 90% of the time its an annual fee to keep it open.

As for the OP, it is not a hassle. Just time consuming. Create a valid living trust, puts some SH*T you own in it and get it notarized with some witnesses. Buy the suppressor(s), fill out the form 4's using you're trusts names, pay the $200.00 tax, and just wait. Its really simple. </div></div>

Actually, mine was setup by my attorney and he has done this for a few others as well. The legal reason for going with an LLC is to remove any potential liability of the owner (and you can add additional partners to the LLC, so multiple users) and transfer of the suppressor is as easy as selling the LLC. If you read up on the LLC rules it is an obvious choice. </div></div>

It doesn't matter if you use Trust, LLC or Individual. You can allow anyone to use your suppressors as long as your present. An LLC only allows people to take them without you being around and I don't know why you would want to do that.

LLC does not remove potential liability. I don't know who told you that. Not saying you're LLC is bogus, but if for any reason the LLC becomes void, then you can potentially be in trouble. Just saying.

At least with a trust it can never be invalid or revoked once it is found to be valid.
 
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