Rifle Scopes SWFA SS 5-20x50 HD Picture thread.......

[Lowlight]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: z71rat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is set for the G1 calculator. And yes, I did 6,000 as my elevation just as an estimate. I believe that I am actually around 6,200 or so.

DK</div></div>

Is 6,200 your actual altitude or is that the DA, it was hot here in CO this weekend. Your DA could have been 8,000. I know Byers is around 5,300 ft and the DA was actually 7,500 most of the day.

I shot Saturday and between 10AM and 2PM I had to take 2/10ths of a mil off at 400 & 500 meters.

 

[z71rat]

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My actual elevation here in Meeker is 6,240. I just about always input it to 6,000 due to the differences in all the elevations that I shoot from.

So, with that, I have no clue what my density altitude would be.

DK

 

[buffybuster]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: z71rat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My actual elevation here in Meeker is 6,240. I just about always input it to 6,000 due to the differences in all the elevations that I shoot from.

So, with that, I have no clue what my density altitude would be.

DK </div></div>

D/A takes into account the temperature and humidity, along with the actual elevation. If your actual elevation is ~6200' and it was hot your D/A could be ~8000' or even higher.

 

[z71rat]

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Well, that makes sense to me. I was just really surprised that it would have THAT much effect on the outcome. Obviously I am relatively new to the longer pokes out there. I would really like to get with someone to go over the basics of longer range shooting. Anything at this point would be of great help!!

I shot out to 400 a few times when I lived in Texas, and only 1 time since living here in Colorado. I guess it was just that I was expecting the program to be my "magic bullet" so to speak, and to hit steel on the first round sent. I was always dialing and shooting and making the corrections to get on the steel. One shot, one miss was the order of business.

I have definately been doing alot of reading, I just need to get it all put into practical lessons now. And of course, alot more time behind the trigger shooting something other than paper @ 100 yards.

DK

 

[cjgemm]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: z71rat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, that makes sense to me. I was just really surprised that it would have THAT much effect on the outcome. Obviously I am relatively new to the longer pokes out there. I would really like to get with someone to go over the basics of longer range shooting. Anything at this point would be of great help!!

I shot out to 400 a few times when I lived in Texas, and only 1 time since living here in Colorado. I guess it was just that I was expecting the program to be my "magic bullet" so to speak, and to hit steel on the first round sent. I was always dialing and shooting and making the corrections to get on the steel. One shot, one miss was the order of business.

I have definately been doing alot of reading, I just need to get it all put into practical lessons now. And of course, alot more time behind the trigger shooting something other than paper @ 100 yards.

DK </div></div>

Your Shooter app on your phone will take into account your DA. Have to go into Preferences and turn it on.

 

[z71rat]

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I guess I just need to get busy with learning the programs, and what all they have to offer. Hopefully it will make a big difference in the outcomes next time around.

Thanks!!

DK

 

[m1k3]

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Here are some from yesterday evening:

Before:

After:

NF size vs SS size:

Full illumination at 9:08PM (sunset was at 8:50PM officially):

200yds at 20x on SS with 2 inch dots and a 1 inch dot:

100yds 1 inch dots and 3 inch dots:

The pics really don't do the scope justice. The optics are just a tad sharper to me than the NF. For example, on the orange dots, I can see the really fine black circle on those dots with the SS but can't make them out with the NF. The night pic looks dark but though the scope I could see great till about 9:35. By 9:40 I would not take a shot. The illumination is nice but even on the lower settings it bleeds into the rest of the reticle as opposed to just the dot in the center.

I'm still getting used to the Mil adjustments. Several times I messed up thinking each click was either .25 inches at 100yds or that it took .25 Mils to equal .25 inches. The cross is thin enough to just quarter a 1 inch dot at 200 yds. I did play with using one of the mil dots (the little dot in the mil-diamond) as an aiming point but it the little black dots centered on the orange targets, it made aiming worse for me.

Mike

 

[Redmanss]

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I was showing a friend today how much DA can vary from actual. Our altitude is about 5800, and we had a barometric reading of 23.70 with a temp of 98*F and desert humidity. That put us at a DA of 10150. Big difference, and I'm sure western CO isn't much different.

Check this thread for some more info on DA: Humidity

Back to the scope show....

 

[gathumper]

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I am seriously kicking myself in the ass for missing this group buy. If you don't mind, what did you guys end up paying for the scope?

 

[z71rat]

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Barametric pressure is another aspect that I didn't really think about either. As clear as it was, I just figured it to be relatively high, so the input I used was 29.7 (guessing) for the barametric pressure. Probably makes up the other difference in the readings.

I will be checking this out further. Thanks guys for all your patience with this. I feel like a complete newby all over again. A person could loose alot of brain cells and hair in this game. Sheeez!!

DK

 

[m1k3]

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It was at $1000 during the group buy period. I got the extra cost of Tax since I live in Texas but I picked it up at their door so avoided shipping costs. I go to Dallas about twice a month on business so it was easy to swing by and pick it up.

Met Brady and got to play with a few other SS scopes they had out so it was all good!

Mike

 

[z71rat]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gathumper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am seriously kicking myself in the ass for missing this group buy. If you don't mind, what did you guys end up paying for the scope? </div></div>

$1,014 delivered if I remember right.

DK

 

[hk dave]

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Seems the consensus is this scope can compete in the $2K range... so $1500 is still a good deal. Go grab one!

Can't wait for mine to arrive! So exciting!

 

[jawa]

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These scopes look great! I cant wait for mine to get here...

 

[KE5MUJ]

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Got a brown box from UPS on the porch today when i got home. I unpacked it and was very pleased with the overall build quality, turrets, and glass. Glass looks very good, only had my SS 3-9 to compare to, but hey it looks good so far. Turrets are very positive with audible clicks, I love the larger diameter as well. Took the elevation cover off (as pictured) and looked to be beefy. The side parallax and Illumination adjustments are nice, I didnt find them interferring with each other during adjustments. Just got it mounted in Seekins high rings and laser bore sighted it. Hopefully will get to shoot with it soon.

 

[winxp_man]

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Nice! Looking good there

I think that LL should come up with a patch or a sticker "BEEFY"

Aron-

 

[shaneinhisroom]

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Wow, that's awesome. Nice low mount too. I'm starting to wonder if the aadland medium triple lug rings are too low. THey're .95" and will be on a 20MOA base.

 

[m1k3]

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Mine sits the same or maybe just slightly higher than 7.62Texan's. My setup is a Savage, heavy large thread barrel, EGW HD Steel 20MOA rail, Vortex Lows which are really Seekins mediums (.87").

Mike

 

[-=boone=-]

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Nice looking rig 762Tex. What did you end up doing with that 3-9?

 

[z71rat]

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I think it is awesome that so many of the SS's that I have seen mounted are done up in Seekins Rings!! I love the things!!

DK

 

[blackblue]

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Mine will be in seekins also once my rifle is done.

 

[KE5MUJ]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice looking rig 762Tex. What did you end up doing with that 3-9? </div></div>
Put it on my AR

 

[earthquake]

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Shoot, I forgot to even check, will this fit 30mm badger standard height rings on a 20 MOA picatinny base? Just want to be sure I have enough clearance. Nice picts fellas...can't wait until I get mine!

 

[SmokinAce]

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I will get a pic up once I get it mounted . Been working 14+ hours days this week so far. Now looking at this I have hoping my burris xtr low rings will work with the 20moa base and a heavy barrel.

 

[shaneinhisroom]

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I just did some math but I'm not sure if I'll have clearance. How much lower does a 42mm scope site from a 50mm? it's only 4mm right?

 

[problemchild]

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Be here tomorrow.

You know, looking at this picture reminds me of my EX-GF, a hole waiting to be filled.

 

[snipedu1st]

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Hey guys. I was SO excited when UPS dropped of my scope yesterday. It arrived a day early. I'm looking forward to posting my pic of it mounted on my Armalite SuperSASS. Just waiting for the mount to arrive.

Did any one happen to notice how little illumination the reticule gave? Power position 1-5 doesn't even give off any light. I had to go into a dark closet to verify this. Anyone else experiencing this?

 

[SmokinAce]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Snipedu1st</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Did any one happen to notice how little illumination the reticule gave? Power position 1-5 doesn't even give off any light. I had to go into a dark closet to verify this. Anyone else experiencing this? </div></div>

Same thing here then the battery went dead after 5 min of playing with the settings. Luckily it is the same as my garage door opener

 

[Lowlight]

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Those ultra low power settings are designed for NV so it doesn't wash out the NV scope.

 

[Tactical]

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NVD settings on the scope. I see them fine with my NVD.

I like how you can pick a setting and have an off setting between each number

 

[SWFA]

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It is designed this way as a high powered scope's illuminated reticle is to be utilized in a different fashion than a 1-4x.

The bottom three settings are NV compatible and the high settings were reduced to reduce bleed onto non illuminated portions of the reticle and to keep your pupil from constricting in a low light situation. The only mission for the illumination in this reticle is to provide you with the location of the center of your reticle and do it in the finest and least obtrusive way.

It is difficult for you to see how it works when you just open it and turn it on. You need to be in the environment it was intended to be used in. You also can't just turn the lights off and see how it will be because your eyes have not adjusted, ambient light in the room, you are not looking through it at a long range, etc.

Mount it up and use it at distance in low light. You should turn it up until only the center is illuminated, if you start to see some bleed simply turn it down.

We have found a few with dead or really low batteries and one that needed the spring in the lid stretched out a little. Also make sure you are getting the lid on all the way so that it makes a good contact.

 

[z71rat]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shane135</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just did some math but I'm not sure if I'll have clearance. How much lower does a 42mm scope site from a 50mm? it's only 4mm right? </div></div>

There is a difference in the objective glass MM size, and the outside dimension of the bell surrounding the glass. It is not as simple as adding 4MM to the numbers.

DK

 

[SmokinAce]

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Yea mine works fine with a new/used battery (garage door open is a simple casualty of the sport

) and thanks again for a great piece of equipment!

 

[MDM]

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Got mine and mounted it up. It's very,very nice. Mine has 33.4 mils of travel. Thanks again to SWFA and Lowlight.

 

[springer01]

Re: SWFA SS 5-20x50 HD Picture thread.......

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: z71rat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shane135</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just did some math but I'm not sure if I'll have clearance. How much lower does a 42mm scope site from a 50mm? it's only 4mm right? </div></div>

There is a difference in the objective glass MM size, and the outside dimension of the bell surrounding the glass. It is not as simple as adding 4MM to the numbers.

DK </div></div>

If they have the same size tube than yes 4mm should be pretty close.

 

[z71rat]

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This thread needs MORE of what it was made for... PICTURES!!

DK

 

[animalmother85]

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Mine came today. I will post pictures when my buddy gets done machining my pillars for my rifle. It replaced my 5.5-22x56 NF on my Badger build. Awesome scope!

 

[winxp_man]

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In the Box before I opened it when I got home from work.

I will take better pics with day time and post them to.



Aron-

 

[Bizill]

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winxp, can i request to see a pic of that beauty in the daylight with a perfectly framed side view? man, that $hit right there makes me want to remind swfa to hurry up with the design and manufacture of the corresponding sunshade. sexy!

 

[winxp_man]

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ya I will be on one really quick. The one I have on right now is a Leupold and its a tad smaller in outer diameter but the inside is gtg for now. Bizill I sure will post the pics as soon as I can with day light!

Aron-

 

[chittnp]

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Just got mine this evening, UPS dragged ass and didn't deliver until after 6pm! I can honestly say it exceeds my expectations! It's a great piece of kit! BTW, anyone know what cat tail will fit this? SWFA has 2 of their own brand, 1 for the 1-4, and 1 for the 3-9, and I was wondering if either one of those will fit?

 

[Lowlight]

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The right Cat Tail is not available yet, on its way.

 

[chittnp]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The right Cat Tail is not available yet, on its way. </div></div>

thanks!

 

[MitchInOR]

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Those who have them, what size of Butler Creek caps are fitting on your scope?

 

[SWFA]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MitchinOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those who have them, what size of Butler Creek caps are fitting on your scope? </div></div>

19 Eye
44 Objective

 

[DanielW]

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Sears Tower is about 6.3 miles away.

5x

10x

20x

This scope is super clear and bright all the way until dawn. I will take some pics at 9pm as you can still clearly see the tower.

 

[Emilio]

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Wow, I can't wait to get mine.

 

[winxp_man]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bizill</div><div class="ubbcode-body">winxp, can i request to see a pic of that beauty in the daylight with a perfectly framed side view? man, that $hit right there makes me want to remind swfa to hurry up with the design and manufacture of the corresponding sunshade. sexy!</div></div>

Here are some day time pics

Damn I love this scope and so does little Franky

Aron-

 

[lennyo3034]

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Just got mine in and mounted:

This is with a TPS 20 MOA base and TPS Super-low (.82") rings. I just barely cleared without having to modify the butler creeks, but I had a dremel handy so I did it anyways.

 

[Lowlight]

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I am glad people who are receiving their scopes are happy with them... I think SWFA did a good job and I know some people will charge my reviews as being hype, but I really feel they built a solid scope here, well worth the money, to include the retail amount, not just the SH Special.