Tangoinnos Fire4000

[King_beardsly]

Has anyone been following this range finder, it seem like a solid unit with a great feature set at what seems like a reasonable price point.

TANGO FIRE4000 BALLISTIC COMPUTER​

Key Features​

Alliance with Applied Ballistic
We develop our own app (AB Synapse - BOSS) and ally with Applied Ballistic. There are different models of software applications. Search for AB Synapse – Boss or BOSS on both Apple iOS and Android, Google Play.
1. FIRE4000 UltraLite (For Hunting)
2. FIRE4000 Sportsman (For Sport Training)
3. FIRE4000 Elite (For Long Professional Shooting)

OLED Display
The built-in laser rangefinder can quickly measure the target distance and angle, displaying the results on the OLED screen. Additionally, there is a setting for adjusting the screen brightness.

Vertical and Horizontal Screen
There are settings for both Vertical and Horizontal screens, available on both the left and right sides. To adjust the screen direction, long press for 2 seconds to cycle through the 1-2-3 options.

Invisible Laser and Visible Laser
The invisible laser, Class 1 with a wavelength of 905nm, is used for measuring distances up to 4000 yards.
The visible laser, Class 2 with a wavelength of 635nm, is utilized for zeroing in on targets and measuring distances up to 100 yards.

Battery Performance
Battery Model : CR123A 3V
Installation : Battery "+" facing inward, "-" facing outward.

https://tangoinnos.com/fire4000

 

[NHPiper]

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[yakmastermax]

Looks super interesting! It might address some of my primary complaints with my Vortex Impact 4000, namely the size and bulk, and the remote.

That being said, does this unit have on board meteorological sensors, inclinometer/declinometer, bearing/heading compass, etc for a full parameter fed firing solution, minus wind?

 

[King_beardsly]

Looks super interesting! It might address some of my primary complaints with my Vortex Impact 4000, namely the size and bulk, and the remote.

That being said, does this unit have on board meteorological sensors, inclinometer/declinometer, bearing/heading compass, etc for a full parameter fed firing solution, minus wind?

I’m waiting to hear back about what they packed into this in regards to sensors, I know it’ll doing angles but beyond that I’m not sure.

I did see this while reading the manual for it.

 

[NHPiper]

Read through the manual as well. It looks to me like it may be Chinesium, which I personally don't love. Vortex is a known supporter of the industry with a world class guarantee.

 

[King_beardsly]

Read through the manual as well. It looks to me like it may be Chinesium, which I personally don't love. Vortex is a known supporter of the industry with a world class guarantee.

I have a feeling that might be the case, I guess time will tell if it’s worth the risk of chinesium LRF. I wanted to grab one when I heard the price when they open the preorder up, but I’ll give it sometime to let other people take the risk off the bat.

 

[King_beardsly]

Looks super interesting! It might address some of my primary complaints with my Vortex Impact 4000, namely the size and bulk, and the remote.

That being said, does this unit have on board meteorological sensors, inclinometer/declinometer, bearing/heading compass, etc for a full parameter fed firing solution, minus wind?

So they got back to me, the only thing onboard is the inclinometer/declinometer with everything thing else coming via the app or kestrel. So that’s mildly annoying since it’s not going to be a standalone device, but I guess it could be worse.

 

[NHPiper]

To me that totally defeats the purpose. Too bad, would have been nice to see some competition here. I'm not going to run a paired kestrel and stick it in a pocket for atmospherics to get messed up.

 

[King_beardsly]

To me that totally defeats the purpose. Too bad, would have been nice to see some competition here. I'm not going to run a paired kestrel and stick it in a pocket for atmospherics to get messed up.

Yeah, I’d rather not be tethered to something else to supply environmental conditions and somehow I’d manage to mess up. I mean if you’re going to run a kestrel on a tripod with the weather vain then it’s cool but definitely defeats what I’d be looking to do with it.

 

[carbonbased]

So they got back to me, the only thing onboard is the inclinometer/declinometer with everything thing else coming via the app or kestrel. So that’s mildly annoying since it’s not going to be a standalone device, but I guess it could be worse.

A compass would’ve been nice for a direction of fire solution…assuming you could input wind speed and direction into the unit.

But hear me out on the other sensors.

With my kestrel (a 3500), I can’t just leave it out in the sun and expect an accurate reading. And the relative humidity is quickly affected if I pick the unit up.

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The barometer, unsurprisingly, doesn’t seem to be affected by handling or being left out in the sun.

So I’m not sure having those sensors in the WMLRF is all that advantageous to me. Besides the sun beating down on it, there will be heat coming off both the gun and my operating hand.

Higher volume varmint shooter here, so the gun will often be quite warm.

Plus, I imagine the humidity from my operating hand might affect readings from a WMLRF, as well as combustion gases venting out of the chamber might have some effect.

Anyway, my point is it seems to this noob you’d have to manually input some important environmentals into the unit anyway, so having sensors onboard might not be all that advantageous.

That’s also why I don’t think having a full suite of environmentals in your binos is a game changer either.

 

[King_beardsly]

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[dgheriani]

Yeah, I’d rather not be tethered to something else to supply environmental conditions and somehow I’d manage to mess up. I mean if you’re going to run a kestrel on a tripod with the weather vain then it’s cool but definitely defeats what I’d be looking to do with it.

It kinda depends if it needs to be tethered/paired at all times in order to give you dope or if you could just transfer the environmentals (and lock them) and then just pair and update every few hours or so (or as you feel temps change drastically). Has anyone hinted at a price point?

 

[carbonbased]

Has anyone hinted at a price point?

$1400

 

[carbonbased]

Really, all I really need is the range (in either line of sight and calculated with the angle), angle, and maybe some different scan settings.

Basically just what a “dumb” mid-fi rangefinder provides. Like my Vortex Fury non-AB.

Currently I just range, look at my dope that’s attached to my gun, hold elevation and wind, and fire. A WMLRF would (obviously) allow me to not come off my gun to my binos if I see a new pdog through the scope that’s significantly closer or further away.

A unit like I describe would be cheaper as it has no ballistic engine in it, plus I can get the environmentals from my cheaper kestrel.

I use the gun MPH wind method and have already trued my dope out to 500 yards on steel. That’s my max typical pdog range, although I’ve tried longer lol. I only use a ballistic computer when truing or when writing out dope cards for different environmentals.

 

[zekers7]

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[Ken Miller]

This looks VERY interesting. Not too worried about linking it to the Kestrel. I currently use the Kestrel linked to my Binos anyway. If this only needs to sync long enough to pull an update that's perfect. This would be less to carry and no transitioning to the gun. The AB software is huge, Borrowed a Vortex from a friend and the Geo Ballistics leaves a ton to be desired. I have faith in the AB and it is used for EVERY discipline I shoot.
Does anyone have know anybody with one currently?
Does anyone know where to get one at? Don't see a "buy it" link on the website.

 

[King_beardsly]

This looks VERY interesting. Not too worried about linking it to the Kestrel. I currently use the Kestrel linked to my Binos anyway. If this only needs to sync long enough to pull an update that's perfect. This would be less to carry and no transitioning to the gun. The AB software is huge, Borrowed a Vortex from a friend and the Geo Ballistics leaves a ton to be desired. I have faith in the AB and it is used for EVERY discipline I shoot.
Does anyone have know anybody with one currently?
Does anyone know where to get one at? Don't see a "buy it" link on the website.

They haven’t officially been released for sale yet, but there is an email list to let you know when they are available. I know the dude from T-Rex arms got to test and seemed to enjoy it.

 

[carbonbased]

I know the dude from T-Rex arms got to test and seemed to enjoy it.

That dude needs to not keep skipping leg day at the gym lol

 

[King_beardsly]

That dude needs to not keep skipping leg day at the gym lol

That dude needs to stay in his lane with shooting, but that’s a whole other story.

 

[A&8's]

That dude needs to stay in his lane with shooting, but that’s a whole other story.

Preach Brother....Preach!

 

[yakmastermax]

I am curious if the environmental sensors on the Impact 4000 provide accurate information reliably enough to make a product like this that has no such sensors truly inferior.