Tesla Cybertruck just exploded outside Trump Vegas Hotel....

Crazy to think the bomber was a Green Beret. Sad days
Not surprising, though. Our Military is a poster child for DEI and radical left beliefs due to Biden et al. encouraging, supporting, and recruiting for it.

The swamp is much larger than it was in 2016. I feel bad for Mr. Trump.
 
yea im not arguing with Turo's business model. Was only commenting on people saying "the owners are fucked as their insurance wont cover this"... And I say "no, because Turo's own insurance thats required covers the vehicles". NOW if said vehicles will be covered due to terrorist activities, I dont know, but the owners personal insurance on the vehicles means virtually nothing.
The guy that rented out the Lightning in TX owned 3 or 4 other rentals, I assume he had adequate insurance and was experienced in the biz. Would not be surprised if the Cybertruck owner was doing this to make his monthly nut. Some people do this to get a vehicle they cannot afford otherwise. He might have issues...
 
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Now the question is why Turo? The Tesla and Trump property make sense, but who is financially involved with Turo?
Turo is just a ride/car sharing service. Like Uber, except the 'rental' people just trust you to take their car and bring it back.

Why? Because if you go to Ryder or Hertz or other places... they want ID cards. They videotape you renting things. They ask questions. They want credit cards.

So Turo is a great way to get vehicles and subvert the system that now tracks cars' every move. This one is kind of a new one on me... But I can see the genius behind it. Untraceable cars. Owners who are basically dupes. No worries about crossing borders (rental car agencies don't let that happen in CONUS... at least not mostly).

If the alphabeti have any brains left, they will go to these car sharing companies and ask for a data dump... an will find that the people renting these car share vehicles are not all just a bunch of suburban hipsters who think they are oh so smart riding their electric scooters all week, and just renting a car from some trusting neighbor on weekends. Nope... they are going to find a lot of shitbags.

Feel sorry for the folks who were duped. They were just trying to make some cash on the side and get their car payment offset. By letting every Tom, Dick, Miguel and Haji borrow it. Wonder how many tons of drugs are coming across the border in 'borrowed' cars! Oh and if seized... have to be returned to the owner.

Well, play stupid games by handing over your car keys to some yahoo from the Internet... what do you expect?

Smart for the terrorists/shitbags to use the loophole, though. Noone said they were dumb.

Sirhr
 
No relationship whatsoever with NOLA, pretty much established. Last I heard, NOLA was a lone ranger, no evidence of anyone else involved. He claimed to have joined ISIS some time ago.

Vegas is likely to end up being a suicide. Period. Wife "had not seen him in days"...And not very concerned. Deleted her FB page shortly after event, distancing herself. Sounds like a family breaking up around Christmas...

A Special Forces Green Beret with 20 years using fireworks and camping fuel in the bed of a pickup as an IED?

He was a communications sergeant and an Intel Sergent... not a engineer Sergeant. He didn't go to "Make it go boom" school. He went to radio school and Intel school. And may have assumed he could detonate the battery.

Also look at his career track.. .he went from Team Sergeant to... drone operations? Team Sergeants are the top of the heap on ODA's. Officers come and go, but the Team Sergeants don't just suddenly get moved off to run remote operations and/or retired at 19 years. Something was up.

I will bet a steak dinner that something was going on... and it wasn't good. And that he was 'known' in whatever circles. but it was being covered up or folks assumed he was just having a bad time and did not expect him to do something nutz.

And both the NOLA and the Vegas guys were at Fort Carson... so... don't assume anything about them not being connected. Coincidences these days don't come off as coincidences a lot of the time... Maybe that's just me.

Sirhr
 
Turo is just a ride/car sharing service. Like Uber, except the 'rental' people just trust you to take their car and bring it back.

Why? Because if you go to Ryder or Hertz or other places... they want ID cards. They videotape you renting things. They ask questions. They want credit cards.

So Turo is a great way to get vehicles and subvert the system that now tracks cars' every move. This one is kind of a new one on me... But I can see the genius behind it. Untraceable cars. Owners who are basically dupes. No worries about crossing borders (rental car agencies don't let that happen in CONUS... at least not mostly).

If the alphabeti have any brains left, they will go to these car sharing companies and ask for a data dump... an will find that the people renting these car share vehicles are not all just a bunch of suburban hipsters who think they are oh so smart riding their electric scooters all week, and just renting a car from some trusting neighbor on weekends. Nope... they are going to find a lot of shitbags.

Feel sorry for the folks who were duped. They were just trying to make some cash on the side and get their car payment offset. By letting every Tom, Dick, Miguel and Haji borrow it. Wonder how many tons of drugs are coming across the border in 'borrowed' cars! Oh and if seized... have to be returned to the owner.

Well, play stupid games by handing over your car keys to some yahoo from the Internet... what do you expect?

Smart for the terrorists/shitbags to use the loophole, though. Noone said they were dumb.

Sirhr

Thats not how Turo works at all... Its not anonymous and I'm 99.9% sure you cant pay cash.
 
Thats not how Turo works at all... Its not anonymous and I'm 99.9% sure you cant pay cash.

It's more anonymous than going to a rental counter at Hertz... and, sorry... I should not have said cash. Assume you have to pay on an App. Does that make it so people can pay with Venmo or Bitcoin or other 'less than open' payment services?

But my bad if I don't understand it... please go into more detail! How can it be exploited and why would both guys use it a day apart?

Seems like exploitation to me! Please explain it. Really, I would appreciate the insight!

Thanks for the correction, though!

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
It's more anonymous than going to a rental counter at Hertz... and, sorry... I should not have said cash. Assume you have to pay on an App.

But my bad if I don't understand it... please go into more detail! How can it be exploited and why would both guys use it a day apart?

Seems like exploitation to me!

Thanks for the correction, though!

Cheers,

Sirhr
3,499,998 other people also used it in the last year and did not blow up their rides. I used it twice
 
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$550/day??

Work for a real contract.

Go be poor somewhere else.
 
3,499,998 other people also used it in the last year and did not blow up their rides. I used it twice

Understand... But tens of millions used Hertz and Ryder the year that McVeigh used it to blow the shit out of a building. Then the processes changed. Tens of millions took flights every year until a bunch of them flew planes into buildings and fields. They the processes changed.

Exploiting weaknesses is how successful terrorist operations happen. So why this one? And where else may there be vulnerabilities. Not blaming Turo or their customers. They were used. Not complicit. What made folks use them... and how does one stop it in future!

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. Apparently Vegas guy posted some nasty stuff on SofRep a couple of years ago and it was flagged but not followed up. We're probably going to find out that hindsight, as usual, is 20/20 but there lots of clues. Well can't stop everything. Just saying that this probably did not happen in a vacuum.
 
It's more anonymous than going to a rental counter at Hertz... and, sorry... I should not have said cash. Assume you have to pay on an App. Does that make it so people can pay with Venmo or Bitcoin or other 'less than open' payment services?

But my bad if I don't understand it... please go into more detail! How can it be exploited and why would both guys use it a day apart?

Seems like exploitation to me! Please explain it. Really, I would appreciate the insight!

Thanks for the correction, though!

Cheers,

Sirhr

You have to upload your DL to Turo. You have to pay via CC. I dont know if you can pay via bitcoin or the like.

I didnt end up using it due to cost, but I would ASSUME that the person who is renting you the car would verify "hey this is the same person as the DL on their account". I think most said "DL check required at pick up". Now obviously Turo cant enforce that end of the deal.

As to why both guys used Turo, no real clue outside of you pick EXACTLY the vehicle you want and will rent. Maybe they wanted a specific vehicle to send a message(vegas guy IMO), well you cant guarantee that at any ol rental place, but you can with Turo.

I dont think the fact that both cars were rented from Turo had anything to do with each other...just my opinion.
 
Most of the deflagration vented out the back of that truck. This homie got COOKED up in the front. Possibly for an agonizing amount of time too. Fitting end for a Trump and USA hating leftist who has done God knows how much to subvert us while he was in the Army...
kinda let's you know that the military is suspect and in no way is going to do anything but obey their master's orders to suppress and kill americans (esp white with maga hx) when they think it will finish us off. in fact,considering current recruited types,it is a bigger threat to liberty and the constitution than the cops. they are pretty bad but the military has more and bigger guns. a lot of vets on here and i am afraid they are known and targeted by their vet status.
 
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Many reasons a license plate and ID used to subsequently rent a vehicle != proven identity of who was actually driving...
And? You made the comparison of IDing a person in a rental vehicle, with a DL, passport, video evidence of the person charging the vehicle on a multiday trip across the country, etc. to IDing an unknown homeless person on a subway with no ID burnt beyond recognition. Why?
 
Thats not how Turo works at all... Its not anonymous and I'm 99.9% sure you cant pay cash.
Correct! No cash transactions. It isn't anonymous, either. It has nothing to do with rideshare. It is more like an Airbnb service for vehicles. It links renters with owners.

You have to prove your identity via a legal driver's license. It is uploaded and checked before a rental can occur. I suppose you can scam the system if you have a good fake ID, but then you could do that with Hertz or AVIS, as well. There are many other terms and conditions as part of the agreement.

They are a legitimate company. I have used them on rare occasions when I need a car during business travel.
 
As a highschool kid 30 years ago with no training, my friends and I built better "fireworks" and knew that using actual fireworks sucked. We made way better ones. Using fireworks and having the movie gun... and saying he was a 20 yr SF guy in the same sentence is laughable.... Can it get any more theatrical?
 
Funny how the cyber truck was rented by a vet who was fairly well trained....and all he came up with for a VBIED was gas and fireworks?? Something stinks to high hell.

Most kids in my area were playing with those in middle school over the 4th of July.
Same class as the first and second attempted assassinations. Do either of these folks have connections to Black Rock or the FBI?
 
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This is like a movie plot, but say he was threatened, maybe someone was going to kill his whole family if he didnt do this or something.... If so he picked the least effective vehicle, which anyone knows by watching reviews on youtube how strong the cyber truck is.... worst vehicle ever to use. And the material he used to blow up, the worst inefficient stuff there is almost, Its like it really couldnt be done any worse, its done so bad you almost have to think, did he purposely intend for it to be ineffective?
And the desert eagle... lol. If someone was making a spoof movie I doubt they could do this bad.
 
Gas and fireworks dude had a desert eagle and ar15 on him

So a paper military ID and a paper passport survived the fire, but his body burned beyond recognition?

Well ,fire proof passports have been around since 9/11/2001 ......... 💪
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CAC cards aren’t paper and are fairly durable. Looks like he was still AD, so they will likely be able to ID him based on DNA pretty rapidly. Looks like the CAC card chip is still intact as well.

Hate to be the CNO for this incident.
 
And? You made the comparison of IDing a person in a rental vehicle, with a DL, passport, video evidence of the person charging the vehicle on a multiday trip across the country, etc. to IDing an unknown homeless person on a subway with no ID burnt beyond recognition. Why?

The body in the tesla is burnt beyond recognition. Likely even moreso than the poor subway woman. Just sayin' an ID in the car ain't proof of who was burned in the car. I'd hope they get DNA.

I subscribe to Occam's Razor. But I am also naturally inquisitive.

Eta / Sorry this is so difficult for you to understand bro.
 
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Tesla has a "Smart Summon" feature, he could have been dead in the drivers seat, Desert Eagle would have blown his head off, killer could have put his body in the front seat, doused in fuel, Smart Summoned the Tesla with FSD to the front door and set the explosion off. Looking at the lobby footage needs to be done.
 
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