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That's good shooting. Maverick Stroud recently made 3670 on a 1 MOA target up at Chafee along with a group of folks helping including George Gardner If I recall correctly. .338 Norma Mag. Now this month he's heading up to Wyoming to go much longer. I love reading up on these guys who push it to the limit.
Found the vid
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I too think some of the responses were a little harsh. That said, they aren't pioneering anything. I can't seem to find it right now, but I read an article once about guys shooting at extreme ranges going back 30 years. They had custom mounts made, and had a big giant rock they would shoot at. I wish I could remember more specifics, or find the article... but the point is that extreme range shooting has been done many times before by many groups of people. The same conclusion has been reached by each group, every time.you gentlemen are the pioneering true Extreme Long Distance Shooting past conceived distances.
I too think some of the responses were a little harsh. That said, they aren't pioneering anything. I can't seem to find it right now, but I read an article once about guys shooting at extreme ranges going back 30 years. They had custom mounts made, and had a big giant rock they would shoot at. I wish I could remember more specifics, or find the article... but the point is that extreme range shooting has been done many times before by many groups of people. The same conclusion has been reached by each group, every time.
The elevation at that target is 10,300 according to my Kestrel
That's the same thing they told the Wright brothers. And Ernest Rutherford. And Christiaan Barnard. And Bill Gates....Don't get me wrong, it's still an impressive display of what can be done, but I fail to see any real world applications.
That's the same thing they told the Wright brothers. And Ernest Rutherford. And Christiaan Barnard. And Bill Gates.
Once one man has figured out a way to do a thing, it's just a matter of time and resources until the rest of us figure out how to make it commonplace.
Then come back and report just how "practical" it is to even have a suitable target presentation for the shot, much less be able to put rounds on it.
I don't see that analogy having any bearing. Saying something can't be done is entirely different from saying it is not practical. Nearly anything is possible. Now what is probable, is an entirely different matter.That's the same thing they told the Wright brothers. And Ernest Rutherford. And Christiaan Barnard. And Bill Gates.
Once one man has figured out a way to do a thing, it's just a matter of time and resources until the rest of us figure out how to make it commonplace.
Quite true! The tone of my comments are aimed at illuminating just how difficult this type of shot is, even with the best equipment available. I would not discourage anyone from giving it a try! Though some of the comments in this thread would seem to indicate that this type of thing hasn't been done before, and that is of course untrue. Some other comments would indicate that if you practice enough, you can become quite proficient at this distance. That too is not entirely accurate.Not sure why practical considerations are so important since 99% of you don't make a living as a sniper and therefore shoot for enjoyment. This is no less practical than the thousands of hours of effort that people spend every year trying to get .25 in groups into the .0s or .1s in 100 yard bench rest. Yet the long range community has benefitted from their efforts.
Even if it becomes commonplace, CoryT analysis and reasoning is still spot on...
Sandwarrior, I don't think anyone is saying not to try. Point in fact I'm saying the opposite. I think everyone should try. It will illuminate a lot!So, I guess we just shouldn't try....all the while keeping our noses in the air because it has no real world application...WOW! Just WOW! You "no real world application" people keep your blinders on. I will continue to encourage those who push the limits. It has a value.
Another case in point, back in my day in the service ('81-85) 1000 yds. was a pipe dream for most. Only a small group of people routinely hit at those ranges. I often heard the exact same phrase, "has no real world practical value". I see it being a lot more routine today than way back when. That's progress. Made by people who push the limits. As far as what I said before it still goes. I wouldn't spend the vast majority of my ammo allotment on extreme training. But, with thought and observation, you can teach yourself to make those shots possible. But, you AREN'T going to do it without observing and thinking about what needs to occur to make them. That in itself becomes the "real world practicality".
Do I get partial credit for having hits at 3120yds? How about 2728yds? How about 2500? I've spent a lot of time with 375CT past a mile trying to achieve first round hits. Probably more time than most. It is not easy, and it is not cheap. I did learn a great deal in the process, and still do learn a bit from time to time. However, the one thing that was illuminated early on, is the simple fact that CoryT is absolutely correct. I say fact, because it is indeed a fact, learned at great cost by those whom have pursued the same path before me, and very likely after me. My own endeavors in this arena were for the very reasons given throughout this thread pertaining to experience and pursuit of knowledge. It certainly wasn't for the notoriety.If you don't think this is an amazing feat of marksmanship, then set up your own target and see how many shots it takes you to do the same. Please publish an honest report here on the Hide to see how you did.
Edit a bunch of drivel.
Doesn't sound like you "get it" at all to me. Anyone taking a hostile tone, as you just have, after reading my posts is clearly misunderstanding what is being said. You'd do well to ratchet down.Dude we get it it's not for you, let it go.
Doesn't sound like you "get it" at all to me. Anyone taking a hostile tone, as you just have, after reading my posts is clearly misunderstanding what is being said. You'd do well to ratchet down.
I'm not sure if you are the business owner but I want to just give you some friendly advise from another business owner:
You would do well to ratchet down, yourself. You are putting a label on you and the company you are representing here. No one wants to do business with a guy that talks down to people in a forum discussion.
Just my two cents about it.
If you'd have seen his post before he edited it, you'd understand my post. ... and my response was quite mild compared to what was deserved. As for my businesses, our customers come to us because they don't want to be fed a bunch of BS. They appreciate someone that will shoot them straight based on personal experience. So if someone doesn't want to do business with us because we won't stand for personal attacks, I'm perfectly fine with that. Lots of other dealers out there. As for the rest of my posts in this thread, those that have spent time at extreme ELR distances can easily give plenty of weight to what has been said. At no point was I "talking down" to anyone by offering a bit of perspective based on the numbers.I'm not sure if you are the business owner but I want to just give you some friendly advise from another business owner:
You would do well to ratchet down, yourself. You are putting a label on you and the company you are representing here. No one wants to do business with a guy that talks down to people in a forum discussion.
Just my two cents about it.
Wow, I've been shooting at Carter's Country since I was 10. Nice place, they always have bullets in stock. Good deals on guns to.
Carter warmed up at 500 yards Sunday. The following Monday he shot targets up to 1200 yards, and 2500 yards Tuesday. Finally, on Wednesday the team set up to engage 3650 yard targets – 2.07 miles.
Confirming hits on the 4 MOA target, Carter called for the 1 MOA target. With a string of eight shots and over 175 MOA in elevation and +2 MOA windage, Carter dialed in the .375 CheyTac and connected twice with the 3 ft x 3 ft steel plate. Velocity on impact was 1100 ft/s, signaling that not only accuracy was possible at long distance but also effectiveness.
Seems some of the numbers posted are way off. 1100fps is closer at 2400yds not 3600yds at 3000yds its 995fps and that is using 3100fps as a perameter. You would have to propel the bullet at 4500fps to get close to super sonic at 2 miles.
I only say this, please post accurate numbers not to confuse others.