Cool, right where it should be then.Whoopsies! It’s 2551 I’ve edited my post to reflect that. Must have only been on my first cup of coffee. 41 grains of H4350. .060 off the lands.
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Cool, right where it should be then.Whoopsies! It’s 2551 I’ve edited my post to reflect that. Must have only been on my first cup of coffee. 41 grains of H4350. .060 off the lands.
Thanks for your insight. I’ve had the same setup on gas guns, so your experience makes sense.Ran one for a bit when I first got the rifle. Ripped the scope off a gas gun and have since put a S&B 3-20 ultrashort on it. Depends on what you want to do with the rifle. Straight hunting I’ve never needed an offset red dot (on a bolt gun) it’s a rad setup though. Rmr’s don’t add much weight but, I find them more useful on gassers for quick movers 50 yards and in.
I tried the vertical ergo grip but it didn’t work for me at all due to the shape of the trigger guard. I keep thinking about trying a k2 or similar and trimming off the tang if need be.Anyone currently have a preferred grip replacement for the fix?
Looking for fatter / vertical-ish
I like the ergo grips, but the rubber doesn't seem to do the best job of holding the springs up and gives me concern
I assume most are running a hard plastic / polymer?
Thanks for your suggestions
Jraven- Streamlined and light is what sprung to mind the first time I felt one!
So far, happy with the decision.
Are you picking up the 308 or 6.5?
Entranced enough with the fix, I am looking at the mini, despite the lamentations of my wallet....
I have been running the Halo LR some on my Fix .308. The Bobro mount really helps me. It is okay with the ADM but the Bobro does allow the buttpad to be adjusted further out due to pushing the scope back closer to the eye. It is very accurate and gives a bit of confidence for longer shots. But the tradeoff is losing the faster followup shots of the AR.308.
I hammer 2-3 hogs a week with a N-Vision Halo-LR on a 308 SLR SBR. Thinking I might change it up and use the Fix with the Halo-LR.
So what is the deal with 8.6?
I listened to a Q podcast where the CEO discussed 8.6 and sounded like the fun round to explode hogs inside of 300 meters.
308.
I hammer 2-3 hogs a week with a N-Vision Halo-LR on a 308 SLR SBR. Thinking I might change it up and use the Fix with the Halo-LR.
So what is the deal with 8.6?
I listened to a Q podcast where the CEO discussed 8.6 and sounded like the fun round to explode hogs inside of 300 meters.
Just looked at the bobro mount - looks like it allows the Halo to sit pretty far back which makes for a more comfortable shooting position.I have been running the Halo LR some on my Fix .308. The Bobro mount really helps me. It is okay with the ADM but the Bobro does allow the buttpad to be adjusted further out due to pushing the scope back closer to the eye. It is very accurate and gives a bit of confidence for longer shots. But the tradeoff is losing the faster followup shots of the AR.
It also has a slight bulky feel to me while on the Fix, more so than on my POF Revolution. I have also run my Reap 35 on the Fix and it seems to be a better fit weight and bulk wise, but the eye relief is barely usable even with the butt pad adjusted all the way in. It too has a Bobro option but I am not running it enough on the Fix to be motivated to spend the $$$$ to get one.
8.6 was all a dream, worse than tears in the rain. Greatest troll in the history of small arms media.
Still got it?If anyone wants a never shot 6.5CM barrel give me a shout!
My original with the issue was a 2xx and the replacement is a 10xx. I can’t remember what the change was exactly but iirc there’s a chunk of material left in the magwell towards the rear now. You can try the Velcro method in the meantime.Not sure what the conclusion was on receivers that have feeding issues in 6.5, but add one more now that I switched barrels...
I'm in low 500s on serial BB05XX
308 had been working fine, but the 6.5 doesn't ride up the ramp high enough to push the bullet tip into the chamber like the 308 will.
All Q barrels
Sent message to Q over weekend and still waiting for a reply...
I'll experiment a little with the Velcro approach, but I'm not sure if I can push it enough to feed into the chamber...My original with the issue was a 2xx and the replacement is a 10xx. I can’t remember what the change was exactly but iirc there’s a chunk of material left in the magwell towards the rear now. You can try the Velcro method in the meantime.
This is why I'm not sure about the Velcro being a "fix" for the fix... Y'all can correct me though
The rounds point starts riding the ramp really early on
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6.5 will move up a good bit before hitting the flat portion under the chamber, but it has been pushed well out of position in the mag at this point
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The fatter 308 bullet will ride higher though... getting the point high enough to funnel the round into the chamber
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With the feeding of this rifle depending so much on the ramp it almost seems like you need a different ramp per caliber....
But maybe I'm missing something
I have found that the 175 FGMM has grouped the best so far, I have not faired well with other rounds that I have tried so far. I have the Bartlein barrel on mine. I have finally found some other options to try but it will have to wait until after hunting season when I put that barrel back on.What are rounds are you guys shooting out of .308 16" stainless Fix? Did my little break in sequence yesterday and was shooting 3 round groups with 155g nolsers, 168g SMK and 175g SMK - the 175s grouped the best.
Just curious what everyone is shoot
Yeah.... search back in this mega thread. This was solved by radiusing and polishing the entry in to the chamber. @Supersubes did the work for me. I'm very happy with the outcome.I dont have the 6.5 Creedmoor, I have a 6 Creedmoor and I have found on the longer bullets, say 105 VLD Berger, where the meplat hits the chamfer of the barrel before the neck hits the feed ramp I have feeding issues. If I run a 95 Classic Hunter Berger the neck hits the feed ramp first and no issues. Also, the Hornady 105 BTHP does not have any feeding issues, so it would seem to be an issue with the shape of the longer bullets.
Somewhere back in the thread somebody polished the the chamfer of the chamber and it supposedly fixed this issue, IIRC. Maybe this is an option for you.
I was thinking 155g noslers were going to be the ticket as that is what my bolt action gun really likes. My SR25 eats up the 168/175g SMKs. And to my surprise the 175s were grouping sub MOA at 100 yards. I need to put some padding on cheek riser.I have found that the 175 FGMM has grouped the best so far, I have not faired well with other rounds that I have tried so far. I have the Bartlein barrel on mine. I have finally found some other options to try but it will have to wait until after hunting season when I put that barrel back on.
Depending how thick you want this might be an option.I was thinking 155g noslers were going to be the ticket as that is what my bolt action gun really likes. My SR25 eats up the 168/175g SMKs. And to my surprise the 175s were grouping sub MOA at 100 yards. I need to put some padding on cheek riser.
If I was using a barrel from someone else, or even long hand loads I might not think much of it...I dont have the 6.5 Creedmoor, I have a 6 Creedmoor and I have found on the longer bullets, say 105 VLD Berger, where the meplat hits the chamfer of the barrel before the neck hits the feed ramp I have feeding issues. If I run a 95 Classic Hunter Berger the neck hits the feed ramp first and no issues. Also, the Hornady 105 BTHP does not have any feeding issues, so it would seem to be an issue with the shape of the longer bullets.
Somewhere back in the thread somebody polished the the chamfer of the chamber and it supposedly fixed this issue, IIRC. Maybe this is an option for you.
Q has a small chamber chamfer, but it's not enough... Then you'd be requiring the point of the bullet to force the round the last bit out of the mag?Yeah.... search back in this mega thread. This was solved by radiusing and polishing the entry in to the chamber. @Supersubes did the work for me. I'm very happy with the outcome.
You're not wrong, my educated guess is that is was originally designed for 308 cartridge and not the 6.5 with the shorter case body and longer bullet.If I was using a barrel from someone else, or even long hand loads I might not think much of it...
But when a 3k factory rifle.. with a factory barrel... won't feed factory ammo... It's screwed up
Q has a small chamber chamfer, but it's not enough... Then you'd be requiring the point of the bullet to force the round the last bit out of the mag?
that just doesn't make sense to me either for what one would call proper feeding
I agree as that is my initial thought as well, but when they sell 6.5 barrels for it they should be able to work with a 6.5 at least...You're not wrong, my educated guess is that is was originally designed for 308 cartridge and not the 6.5 with the shorter case body and longer bullet.
I have gotten a reply back nowThey should get back to you. I’ve had good experiences with their customer service. I had a factory 16” 6.5creed that fed perfect and the 18” 6.5 proof bbl feeds flawlessly as well if you’re into sinking more cash into your project. It is a shame that some of the factory 6.5’s are having this problem.
After shooting the Halo a few nights I ordered the Bobro mount. Way better position for the Halo - I dont have to crane forward as I had it back as far as possible and was still struggling. Headed back to the range this AM to re-zero.I have been running the Halo LR some on my Fix .308. The Bobro mount really helps me. It is okay with the ADM but the Bobro does allow the buttpad to be adjusted further out due to pushing the scope back closer to the eye. It is very accurate and gives a bit of confidence for longer shots. But the tradeoff is losing the faster followup shots of the AR.
It also has a slight bulky feel to me while on the Fix, more so than on my POF Revolution. I have also run my Reap 35 on the Fix and it seems to be a better fit weight and bulk wise, but the eye relief is barely usable even with the butt pad adjusted all the way in. It too has a Bobro option but I am not running it enough on the Fix to be motivated to spend the $$$$ to get one.
Looks like the chamfer area might actually be larger than the factory barrel.Best photos I could take of the proof bbl.
This pic is of a working rifle correct?This is a proof 6.5, Bartlein 308 and bartlein 6.5 installed. The little bump at the back of the magwell is what I think is different from the original receiver but I could be wrong.
Ok, so for the time being I am assuming this means my receiver is a "corrected" unit... Circled what I think you are talking about with the bump?.The little bump at the back of the magwell is what I think is different from the original receiver
Mind testing a theory for me? Put a round in and push it up slowly and see where the point presents at the barrel? I have factory Hornady match with 140 edlm and it will hit right at the chamfer transition. As long as I run it fast enough I can get it in the chamber, but it's not feeding correctly to get it in there.I handload hornady 140eld-m’s
Thanks, and just to make sure I'm understanding your pic and statement...The proof has a bit larger of a chamfered area. The eldm hits comfortably inside and I’ve had no issues with it.
No worries. If you are hitting the chamfer you are in the same boat I'm in. I've been getting the impression that there was a fix for the fix that actually made them feed properly into the chamber... Hitting that chamfer to get nosed over into the chamber is the saddest example of feeding I believe I've ever seen on a rifle... This thing is basically going into the 308 only category for me from now on....Haven’t tried any other bullets in it as I’ve found a load that works. I’ll try and get some Berger’s loaded up and see what happens. It’ll be awhile though.
You explained it fine, but since I was expecting that to be the case I wanted to make sure I didn't just read what I expected vs what you were saying... Hope that makes sense..I don’t know how to explain it anymore than the pictures. Sorry, the tip of the bullet rides past the feed ramp contacts halfway up the chamfered area and then goes into the chamber in one smooth push of the bolt handle. I’m surprised q hasn’t gotten back to you yet. They’ve been good the few times I’ve needed them.
Hit them on Instagram I had a reply in less than 8 hours and I’m in the U.K.You explained it fine, but since I was expecting that to be the case I wanted to make sure I didn't just read what I expected vs what you were saying... Hope that makes sense..
Nothing back from Q since answering which ammo choices I had tried...
Given I have two different examples, and insight from a couple folks like yourself that actually have similar feeding... I finally realized that Q just copied the bottom two bolt lugs and barrel extension design from an AR-10...
Which most of us realize that our ar10 dings up bullet tips and just say that it's what an AR does...
I ended up pulling out my ar10 308 and compared the feeding from the mag by slowly allowing a 308 to move forward and it rides the bolt cut out the same way and lines up with the chamber. Tried slowly allowing a few 6.5 options to ride up the feed ramp and it does EXACTLY the same thing as the fix by hitting the tip on the chamfer vs in the chamber. This was part of the reason I never liked my 6.5 gas gun either because it tore up bullet tips instead of actually feeding into the chamber.
Basically we will just have to accept that this is how this rifle feeds... The same way we end up saying it's just an AR and that's why it dings up rounds.... It's just much more obvious when you've had bolt guns that feed correctly into the chamber then this thing needs to bounce off a chamfer in order to get the bullet into the chamber. Likely made more obvious by the fact I started in 308 which actually feeds into the chamber due to the larger bullet riding the ramp / bolt cutout higher.
Maybe I'll find someone who wants a 6.5 instead of 308, or maybe I'll find less of a vld / hybrid design that will actually get the tip to present into the chamber instead of hitting the chamfer.
Either way this rifle is a sad example of feeding in a smaller caliber, but... I do now understand how they ended up where they are. I also understand that if I go to an aftermarket barrel I could increase the chamfer but I still call that crap feeding if it needs to bounce off a chamfer... At some point you'd loose case support if you angled the chamfer in deeper to allow less of an angle to bounce off of...
I see benefit to the 338 / 8.6 experiment Britt was talking about at one point as that'll likely feed into the chamber vs the chamfer
I'm only about a week since the follow up question about what all ammo I had tried.Hit them on Instagram I had a reply in less than 8 hours and I’m in the U.K.
You can likely see what I'm referring to using your 308 barrel and putting a 6.5 in the mag and pushing it fwd to see how it interacts with the chamber / chamfer area. I think most of us are just hitting the chamfer hard enough to get it into the chamber...I’m currently zeroed and running my short .308 barrel so don’t want to pop the 6.5 back on. But I’ve never had a problem with 140gr ELD’s. I’ve never run the 143gr ELD-X but Q use them.
I agree to some extent and I keep a 16" 308 on it most of the time, but wanted to be able to swap the barrel for trips / locations that allow extended distances.To be fair I don’t see the rifle as a super long range rifle so the Uber long VLD’s are a waste.
I have been trying to figure this out as well. The magpul sling is even worse with an external frame pack.What's everyone using for a sling? Rigged up a Magpul but not thrilled for hunting. Any suggestions?