The "New" Barrett MRAD Thread!!!!!!

[Lawyer]

I´ve never had a problem or discharge, since i do not shoot anything dynamic, just Target shooting from the Bench or Prone.
1.5 or more lbs feels like moving a Mountain with my Finger. If a rifle has a Trigger that can´t be changed to a lighter weight one or set below 1.5 lbs, i´m out.
Maybe on a Big Magnum Cartridge i can see myself using a 10 oz Trigger, but anything smaller, i use 4-5 oz Triggers.
On my 6.5 Creed i´m right now around 5 oz, which feels heavy for me.


Edit: Maybe i should point out, that i would use the Mrad for (E)LR only, and nothing else. In other circumstances i would agree, that 4-5 oz are unsafe.

 

[mike10]

RESULTS:

Barrett MRAD (newest generation manufactured in 2023) chambered in 300 Norma Mag with a Bartlein 1:8 twist barrel spun up by Southern Precision Rifles aka Bugholes.

Factory Norma 230 grain hybrid ammo.

18 rounds fired in total at 100 meters.

Three, 5-shot groups measuring in at an average of .327 MOA.

The last group fired was a 3-round, .07 MOA group seen attached.

Very, very happy with the results.

 

[Swatdude1]

RESULTS:

Barrett MRAD (newest generation manufactured in 2023) chambered in 300 Norma Mag with a Bartlein 1:8 twist barrel spun up by Southern Precision Rifles aka Bugholes.

Factory Norma 230 grain hybrid ammo.

18 rounds fired in total at 100 meters.

Three, 5-shot groups measuring in at an average of .327 MOA.

The last group fired was a 3-round, .07 MOA group seen attached.

Very, very happy with the results.

Congrats! Gotta love Bugholes!!! Their barrel making skills rock. I've told this story before but when I did training with Chase Stroud he kept asking... "now who did this barrel for you?" He was super impressed with the accuracy.

 

[Zane777]

My first MRAD. The quality of this rifle is beyond my expectations.

 

[SpeedDrop]

My first MRAD. The quality of this rifle is beyond my expectations.
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Hogue grip master race. Also that looks like an Intervention carry handle.

TT 525 or TT 35? Either way great choice.

 

[rustyinbend]

My first MRAD. The quality of this rifle is beyond my expectations.

Wow ... she's all decked out for "Sunday Shootin'". VERY nice!

 

[Zane777]

Hogue grip master race. Also that looks like an Intervention carry handle.

TT 525 or TT 35? Either way great choice.

Thank you for kind words.
It’s Rome carry handle, they make parts for Victrix rifle.
TT525

 

[Paul1262]

I have a Barrett MRAD in 6.5 cm and will be putting a Vortex Razor Gen 3 6-36x56 on it. Curious to know what others are using for a mount or rings in similar situation. Rail is 20 MOA. Thanks in advance.

 

[TheOE800]

I have a Barrett MRAD in 6.5 cm and will be putting a Vortex Razor Gen 3 6-36x56 on it. Curious to know what others are using for a mount or rings in similar situation. Rail is 20 MOA. Thanks in advance.

Rail is 10 MIL or about 35 MOA. You’ll want a 1.5” mount at least.

 

[Paul1262]

Rail is 10 MIL or about 35 MOA. You’ll want a 1.5” mount at lea

 

[Paul1262]

The 10 MIL rail was an earlier MRAD version. MRAD model #18497 specifically list the rail as 20 MOA.

 

[TheOE800]

The 10 MIL rail was an earlier MRAD version. MRAD model #18497 specifically list the rail as 20 MOA.

Interesting. Still listed as 10 MIL on the website.

 

[Paul1262]

The specs listed under model #18497 at Europtics indicates 20 MOA.

 

[Paul1262]

Interesting. Still listed as 10 MIL on the website.

The 10 MIL rail is for the Barrett MRAD - SMR

 

[BoreBear]

The 10 MIL rail is for the Barrett MRAD - SMR

When did they make the change? I have newish version, Mlok, FDE, folder and it is 10 Mil.

 

[Paul1262]

I have no idea, but I ordered a Barrett MRAD in 6.5cm folding FDE from Europtics and it will arrive tomorrow. The specs say 20 MOA rail ?? If you take a look at their website you will see what I mean.

 

[Paul1262]

I have no idea, but I ordered a Barrett MRAD in 6.5cm folding FDE from Europtics and it will arrive tomorrow. The specs say 20 MOA rail ?? If you take a look at their website you will see what I mean.

Barrett MRAD model # 18497 specs reads "Integrated into the Barrett MRAD rifle's 7000 series aluminum upper receiver is a picatinny M1913 rail with 20 MOA taper."

 

[Ehtacs]

I would not count, even a little, on retailer website copy to be correct. IMO if you bought a new MRAD, I would expect it to have a 10 MIL rail per the Barrett site unless it's old stock. They've all (MRAD, SMR, ELR) officially been 10 MIL since like spring of 2021, around when the Mk22 brought about a host of other changes.

 

[Paul1262]

I would not count, even a little, on retailer website copy to be correct. IMO if you bought a new MRAD, I would expect it to have a 10 MIL rail per the Barrett site unless it's old stock. They've all (MRAD, SMR, ELR) officially been 10 MIL since like spring of 2021, around when the Mk22 brought about a host of other changes.

I emailed Europtics and referred them to their Barrett MRAD's specification description and requested a clarification as to 20 MOA or 10 MIL rail. Really doesn't matter to me except that I was trying to figure out what mount or rings I would be using. 20 MOA or 10 MIL makes a big difference.

 

[Paul1262]

I emailed Europtics and referred them to their Barrett MRAD's specification description and requested a clarification as to 20 MOA or 10 MIL rail. Really doesn't matter to me except that I was trying to figure out what mount or rings I would be using. 20 MOA or 10 MIL makes a big difference

 

[Paul1262]

Thanks to BoreBear, TheOE800, Ehtacs for your responses. Europtics emailed me that the rail is 30 MOA. Disappointed in their specification write up. Thanks again.

 

[BoreBear]

I think 30 MOA is also wrong - I love EuroOptic, but here is Barrett's 2024 catalog:

https://barrett.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/BARRETT-2024-Product-Pocket-Catalog-Digital_F.pdf

Every MRAD variant including the ELR has a 10 MIL rail (~34 MOA). Personally, I use a 0 moa Spuhr mount as there is enough elevation in the rail for my needs.

 

[Paul1262]

I think 30 MOA is also wrong - I love EuroOptic, but here is Barrett's 2024 catalog:

https://barrett.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/BARRETT-2024-Product-Pocket-Catalog-Digital_F.pdf

Every MRAD variant including the ELR has a 10 MIL rail (~34 MOA). Personally, I use a 0 moa Spuhr mount as there is enough elevation in the rail for my needs.

Thanks for the info. Thinking the EuroOptic web page specs were correct, I was going to use a 20 MOA mount. I'm glad I raised the issue here and didn't spend a lot of time and money on buying and installing the wrong mount. I agree that EuroOptic is a good firm. Thanks again.

 

[Paul1262]

I think 30 MOA is also wrong - I love EuroOptic, but here is Barrett's 2024 catalog:

https://barrett.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/BARRETT-2024-Product-Pocket-Catalog-Digital_F.pdf

Every MRAD variant including the ELR has a 10 MIL rail (~34 MOA). Personally, I use a 0 moa Spuhr mount as there is enough elevation in the rail for my needs.

What model Spuhr mount do you use?

 

[BoreBear]

What model Spuhr mount do you use?

SP-4002

 

[Paul1262]

SP-4002

Thanks for the info - much appreciated.

 

[Zigjib]

Thanks for the info - much appreciated.

Dunno if it's too late, but consider the Badger C1 instead. We've had a few of the spuhr mounts crack through the mounting screws, even though they were torqued to spec. Not saying that's normal or that Spuhr is no good, because they are, just that the Badger set is a good option too. I prefer the Badger and Marti is just such a good dude i like giving him my money.

 

[JB.IC]

Dunno if it's too late, but consider the Badger C1 instead. We've had a few of the spuhr mounts crack through the mounting screws, even though they were torqued to spec. Not saying that's normal or that Spuhr is no good, because they are, just that the Badger set is a good option too. I prefer the Badger and Marti is just such a good dude i like giving him my money.

I’ve had three or four Spuhr rail clams crack. I started reducing the torque by 5lb-in. Not sure if that helps as I haven’t wanted to swap scopes. Two back to back broke and Spuhr basically sent me a link to purchase a new version of mount all together. I have 6 mounts total and that felt like a slap in the face to me.

 

[Paul1262]

Dunno if it's too late, but consider the Badger C1 instead. We've had a few of the spuhr mounts crack through the mounting screws, even though they were torqued to spec. Not saying that's normal or that Spuhr is no good, because they are, just that the Badger set is a good option too. I prefer the Badger and Marti is just such a good dude i like giving him my money.

I received the rifle yesterday and wanted to shoot it right away. Went to a local gun shop and picked up a set of Nightforce 34 mm ultralite rings 1.5" high with a six screw design. I appreciate the Badger C1 and Spuhr recommendations. Thanks

 

[Swatdude1]

Dunno if it's too late, but consider the Badger C1 instead. We've had a few of the spuhr mounts crack through the mounting screws, even though they were torqued to spec. Not saying that's normal or that Spuhr is no good, because they are, just that the Badger set is a good option too. I prefer the Badger and Marti is just such a good dude i like giving him my money.

I torqued my Spuhr to their spec with fix-it-sticks and I had only shot it a few times before I noticed cracking on mounting piece that holds it on. They replaced it but I'm the type of guy that when something fails on a product and has happened to mulitple people, I'm done. You shouldn't be testing your gear on the public, but instead during development, and then do batch testing from time to time. I bought the Nightforce mounts used on the MK22. People say they were picked because they were low bid but I've never heard issues of them cracking or losing zero.

 

[Paul1262]

I torqued my Spuhr to their spec with fix-it-sticks and I had only shot it a few times before I noticed cracking on mounting piece that holds it on. They replaced it but I'm the type of guy that when something fails on a product and has happened to mulitple people, I'm done. You shouldn't be testing your gear on the public, but instead during development, and then do batch testing from time to time. I bought the Nightforce mounts used on the MK22. People they were picked because they were low bid but I've never heard issues of them cracking or losing zero.

I never had a Spuhr mount fail however, I agree completely about never using a product again if it once failed. So far, the Nightforce rings appear to be OK. I chose the rings rather than the mount because I wanted a little more flexibility in mounting my send it level.

 

[Zigjib]

I’ve had three or four Spuhr rail clams crack. I started reducing the torque by 5lb-in. Not sure if that helps as I haven’t wanted to swap scopes. Two back to back broke and Spuhr basically sent me a link to purchase a new version of mount all together. I have 6 mounts total and that felt like a slap in the face to me.

Oh dude, that sucks. Sorry that happened hey. I still have 1 Spuhr Mount. I think they fixed all the issues so there's probably no risk going forward, just something to consider. Also, I really really like how the Badger C1 mount looks. 90% of the battle is looking cool, and I need all the fucking help I can get in that department

 

[Zigjib]

I torqued my Spuhr to their spec with fix-it-sticks and I had only shot it a few times before I noticed cracking on mounting piece that holds it on. They replaced it but I'm the type of guy that when something fails on a product and has happened to mulitple people, I'm done. You shouldn't be testing your gear on the public, but instead during development, and then do batch testing from time to time. I bought the Nightforce mounts used on the MK22. People they were picked because they were low bid but I've never heard issues of them cracking or losing zero.

The Nightforce is a good option too. Just something to be aware of; The repeated slamming closed of the receiver MIGHT be causing a shift in zero.
We have to open the receiver and remove the bolt after every serial/range trip for safety.
The receiver is opened, bolt removed, rifle cleared, receiver closed, move to new FP, open receiver, insert bolt, close receiver, load.
We've asked about and though no one has directly stated it has happened to them, or that they are willing to blame a POI shift on the optic shifting, by all logic, if you're too rough closing the receiver it COULD cause the mechanics of the optic to move.
We have a MARK 5 HD on the MRAD in the C1 Mounts.
I ran the MRAD in a competition and about 3/4 the way through I had a POI shift .3 high and about .4 left.
Could've been the heat and just being shit that made me change my firing position and cause the shift, but when we tested it on paper, it had definitely shifted. Process of elimination would suggest that, if all torque is good, ammo hasn't changed, then it's got to be the optic itself.
Admittedly, i'm just propping it up and letting the upper receiver fall under it's own weight and slam closed, so it's probably my fault anyhow.

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

308 Bros, how does this shoot with 1:8 twist? That sounds mighty fast of a twist for most 308 loads.

 

[Zigjib]

308 Bros, how does this shoot with 1:8 twist? That sounds mighty fast of a twist for most 308 loads.

Zero issue running the 1/8 with 308 bud.

Haven't gone lower than 168gr at this point though but shouldn't be any issues.

We are running 185gr FGMM ammo and it's insanely consistent for factory ammo. ES/SD is sitting at 8fps on average for nearly 200 rounds now.

Ours has the 17" barrel and we are still making reliable impacts on MOA targets at 1000y with it.

Couldn't be happier with the performance.

Quick down and dirty,

(MV x 720) / Twist Rate = RPM

You want it to be under 300,000 typically.

With a 20" barrel running 168s at 2620fps

(2620 x 720) / 8 = 235,800. No dramas what-so-ever

 

[TheOE800]

308 Bros, how does this shoot with 1:8 twist? That sounds mighty fast of a twist for most 308 loads.

Haven’t been out to distance but shot a .55” group at 100 when qualifying the barrel with FGMM 168gr.

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

Ours has the 17" barrel and we are still making reliable impacts on MOA targets at 1000y with it.

Oh, you're perfect! What's the OAL with the stock folded? I was looking specifically at getting a 17, but not sure if it will fit properly in my big case. Ideally it's small enough to fit in there with my wife's rifle with a folder, allowing us to just take one case on trips.

 

[Zigjib]

Oh, you're perfect! What's the OAL with the stock folded? I was looking specifically at getting a 17, but not sure if it will fit properly in my big case. Ideally it's small enough to fit in there with my wife's rifle with a folder, allowing us to just take one case on trips.

Just shy of 32"

 

[MerkZ]

Hi,

Does anyone know about any aftermarket rear stock that fits MRAD? I saw a video on YouTube where it was fitted a stock that had more adjustment. Particularly that you could rotate the recoil pad. I feel for my own part that the rifle twist into my shoulder pit when I shoot with 338. It also looked much better.

Did you ever figure this out? What video did you see it in?

 

[Zigjib]

Did you ever figure this out? What video did you see it in?

I can't find the link now, which makes me a liar.... but there's definitely a new butt pad assy you can buy. It replaces that fully adjustable LOP with a non adjustable for LOP one. It still allows the pad to move up and down using a screw. A lot of the excess material in the butt Assy is removed and makes the LOP 13.5".

 

[TheOE800]

A lot of the excess material in the butt Assy is removed and makes the LOP 13.5".

That would be cool. Gotdam SOCOM orangutans LOP spec.

 

[staticTango]

I’m trying to choose between the AML338 and MK22 suppressors. The only differences I can see are (1) color and (2) the Mk22 has a latching system.

Is this correct? Any opinions? I’ll be shooting 300PRC and 338LM.

 

[Swatdude1]

I’m trying to choose between the AML338 and MK22 suppressors. The only differences I can see are (1) color and (2) the Mk22 has a latching system.

Is this correct? Any opinions? I’ll be shooting 300PRC and 338LM.

I have the AM338 ($1239 on Europtic) which took me over a year and a half for the stamp. Just got tax stamp back for a B&T TP-9 suppressor in 2-weeks!!!
I thought the AML 338 ($1727) was the Mk22 suppressor? Mine has never come loose without the locking device and as far as color, I run a Armageddon suppressor cover in Multicam. You're basically paying $500 for the lock mechanism and the color. I'm 99% sure the baffles are identical but CS at Barrett could confirm.

 

[staticTango]

I have the AM338 ($1239 on Europtic) which took me over a year and a half for the stamp. Just got tax stamp back for a B&T TP-9 suppressor in 2-weeks!!!
I thought the AML 338 ($1727) was the Mk22 suppressor? Mine has never come loose without the locking device and as far as color, I run an Armageddon suppressor cover in Multicam. You're basically paying $500 for the lock mechanism and the color. I'm 99% sure the baffles are identical but CS at Barrett could confirm.

Those are good points — I’m going to call Barrett and confirm. Doesn’t seem to be worth the up charge.

 

[2011Nomad]

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My MRAD in 338 LM 26" with Spuhr holding a Nightforce ATACR 7x35. Had it cerakoted grey camo. ?

Can we see some more of this
Im considering to ceracoat mine camo

 

[wayfaerer1]

Those are good points — I’m going to call Barrett and confirm. Doesn’t seem to be worth the up charge.

You end up talking to Barrett about this?

I've been contemplating selling a bunch of rifles and gear and just going full out Mk22, but I'm also thinking I'd be just fine getting a standard MRAD, adding the bag rider, and then cerakoting everything (including the barrel) to match the slightly darker FDE/Coyote hue of the Mk22. At that point, I would assume that literally the only aesthetic difference would be the Mk22 markings on the receiver.

And at that point, despite the fact that the AM338 is ever so slightly different than the AML338 (no locking mechanism, 0.4" shorter, and 0.1" less in diameter), if the whole thing is covered in the issued suppressor cover, it's not like you'd be able to see it anyway.

These are the thoughts running through my head anyway - I'll mostly likely never have a need for 300 or 338 Norma given the lack of super long ranges in my AO. Seems like a Mk22 (turning a standard MRAD into a look-alike) in .308 is the way to go and going the route I mentioned above is sounding more and more appealing and WAY less $$$.

 

[Ehtacs]

You end up talking to Barrett about this?

I've been contemplating selling a bunch of rifles and gear and just going full out Mk22, but I'm also thinking I'd be just fine getting a standard MRAD, adding the bag rider, and then cerakoting everything (including the barrel) to match the slightly darker FDE/Coyote hue of the Mk22. At that point, I would assume that literally the only aesthetic difference would be the Mk22 markings on the receiver.

And at that point, despite the fact that the AM338 is ever so slightly different than the AML338 (no locking mechanism, 0.4" shorter, and 0.1" less in diameter), if the whole thing is covered in the issued suppressor cover, it's not like you'd be able to see it anyway.

These are the thoughts running through my head anyway - I'll mostly likely never have a need for 300 or 338 Norma given the lack of super long ranges in my AO. Seems like a Mk22 (turning a standard MRAD into a look-alike) in .308 is the way to go and going the route I mentioned above is sounding more and more appealing and WAY less $$$.

I ran the same exercise a couple years back. Prices have changed since then but I was looking at the parts that come with a complete Mk22 vs building one. In 15+ years, I have yet to regret paying a premium for clone correct and went Mk22 myself considering the difference. Hell if you don't need the engraving, you could consider buying the Mk22 kit and parting out the Mk22 receivers/barrel/mags on Gunbroker for like $9-10k, keeping all the accessories and come out ahead after buying a vanilla 308 MRAD for 60% of that.

 

[2011Nomad]

thats a crazy price
I ended up little less than 10 000usd
Rifle , bagrider, bipod, nightforce f1, spuhr , B&T silencer , 3 barrels 338lm , 308 & 6,5cm

 

[Ehtacs]

thats a crazy price
I ended up little less than 10 000usd
Rifle , bagrider, bipod, nightforce f1, spuhr , B&T silencer , 3 barrels 338lm , 308 & 6,5cm

You sure you got a $5500 rifle, 2x $1500 barrels, a $2-3k+ Nightforce, then all the other stuff for less than $10k? That's 10.5 with a cheap Nightforce, before another $1-2k in other parts!

 

[2011Nomad]

You sure you got a $5500 rifle, 2x $1500 barrels, a $2-3k+ Nightforce, then all the other stuff for less than $10k? That's 10.5 with a cheap Nightforce, before another $1-2k in other parts!

I have written down everything
I payed exactly 10 500 for everything i mentioned