Rifle Scopes The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

[kombayotch]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Everything about this scope rocks, except for the weight. I would I would give up the large knobs and some of the higher end of the magnification range for something closer to 20 oz.

The reticle setup is definitely a win!

 

[match308]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Spoke w/ Val who was helpful and informative. They are working with the engineers to get the issue addressed. For now this scope is going back and I'll have to impatiently await its reintroduction.

kombayotch- the weight is very workable and on the move its very balanced, unlike my Eotech and FTS magnifier. As I age, I appreciate that extra ability the 10x gives me for 500 yards and beyond.

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TBannister</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They are working with the engineers to get the (red-dot intensity) issue addressed. <span style="font-weight: bold">For now this scope is going back and I'll have to impatiently await its reintroduction </span></div></div>

So is IOR halting further sales of the 1-10 until they get the red-dot reticle intensity problem sorted out?

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everything about this scope rocks, except for the weight. <span style="font-weight: bold">I would I would give up the large knobs and some of the higher end of the magnification range for something closer to 20 oz.</span>
</div></div>

Then you'd be looking at something like the new Meopta ZD 1-4.

The ZD weighs in at just over 18 ounces. At just under 10 inches it is the most compact zoom scope with a day-light visible illuminated red-dot on the market today.

http://www.meopta.com/en/zd-1-4x22-1404042235.html

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So is IOR halting further sales of the 1-10 until they get the red-dot reticle intensity problem sorted out? </div></div>

You must be kidding. The illumination works, just not to the intensity desired by this particular user. It works in low light and overcast conditions. It may not be a true "daytime visible" and Valdada has changed the product description to reflect this. They will work to increase the intensity of the dot for subsequent production runs I'm sure, but to "halt the sales" of an otherwise amazing scope for a personal preference issue is way over the top.

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Sorry, I thought the purpose of this scope was to compete with Leupold's, S&B's and Premier's 1-8 dual reticle offerings - all of which offer daylight visible (Aimpoint bright) illuminated red-dot reticles. Without the red-dot feature $2800 seems a steep price to be asking IMO.

Do you know what price they are going to be asking for their 1-10 once they get the red-dot feature working to Aimpoint intensity?

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Only Val/IOR can speak as to the "purpose" of the scope, but to my knowledge the others you mention either don't have the scope, had the scope and recalled it, are crazy overpriced, or a combo of the aforementioned, so "offerings" is kind of a generous term. The IOR 1-10x has no competition at this point, as it is in stock and ready to ship. And it's a true 1x that zooms to 10x, which to my knowledge only March has, but I'm not sure about the dual reticle even there.

I do not believe the price on the scope will change for any improvements in the coming year. At any rate, $2850 is the MAP price, which is rare for the informed internet forum participant to pay these days.

Scott

Scott

 

[CanPopper]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

This is a nice scope, but I think they might be out to lunch on the price. The 1-8 S&B while not in market yet, is shorter and lighter, has a better pedigree, and is touted to be $300 cheaper. The cost of labor in Romania (eastern Europe) where IOR scopes are made is a lot lot less than it is in Germany, so this scope I'm thinking should be pitched quite a bit cheaper to gain any traction in the market. </div></div>

Thanks for the feedback, guys. As you know, many manufacturers lurk here and follow these threads. IOR-Valdada is no different. Here is a response from Scott @ IOR:

"Please point out to the fellas that although the price is high in IOR-speak, we have pushed the envelope tremendously with this optic. If SB or USO made a 1-10 with dual reticule, dual digital illum, zero stop, secondary impact indicator, side focus, and 100 moa of travel (30 mils) on a 35mm tube their pricing would be north of 4k, no doubt.
Yes it is expensive but it has no peer, and any scope those guys make with these features would be very, very expensive. Everyone has a 1. something to 8x...nobody has this yet. Otherwise I find the thread quite fair."

Scott
</div></div>

Tell me, why should I buy this versus another March 1-10X? In my mind, an optic that goes down to 1x needs to be light and mobile. The specs on this scope is disappointing. It is way too heavy for light agile rifle applications and in fact outweighs many of my 5-20x and 6-24x optics.

The March 1-10x is way lighter and smaller and even a tad cheaper. IOR should think about how their features stack up against its direct competition and intended usage.

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only Val/IOR can speak as to the "purpose" of the scope, but to my knowledge the others you mention either don't have the scope, had the scope and recalled it, are crazy overpriced, or a combo of the aforementioned, so "offerings" is kind of a generous term. The IOR 1-10x has no competition at this point, as it is in stock and ready to ship. And it's a true 1x that zooms to 10x, which to my knowledge only March has, but I'm not sure about the dual reticle even there.

I do not believe the price on the scope will change for any improvements in the coming year. At any rate, $2850 is the MAP price, which is rare for the informed internet forum participant to pay these days.

Scott

Scott </div></div>

The S&B will be out at Shot, Leupold's, CQBSS, Horus reticle version is out, and I believe Premier's is out. Apart from Leupold they're all in and around IOR's price point. I don't want to get into a pissing match, I genuinely want IOR's product to be a success, but without an Aimpoint bright red dot reticle there is simply no point in having an optic that is 1x IMO.

 

[kombayotch]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everything about this scope rocks, except for the weight. <span style="font-weight: bold">I would I would give up the large knobs and some of the higher end of the magnification range for something closer to 20 oz.</span>
</div></div>

Then you'd be looking at something like the new Meopta ZD 1-4.

The ZD weighs in at just over 18 ounces. At just under 10 inches it is the most compact zoom scope with a day-light visible illuminated red-dot on the market today.

http://www.meopta.com/en/zd-1-4x22-1404042235.html

</div></div>

Not even close to what I had in mind...

Needs:
-Higher magnification
-Exposed turrets (in mils)
-FFP reticle
-Reticle similar to the one in this IOR, PR Gen2 XR or the Horus in the new Leupold.

The SWFA 1-4 would be a close match. Although, I will still likely go with either the PR or S&B 1-8 even though I dislike the reticles being offered in them.

 

[sititunga]

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I think this Meopta is not a bad scope. Despite having complained to them, the reticle sucks. They have good reticles in their other scopes that are like an MLR - I can't understand why they haven't used one of these for this scope. This scope's reticle needs windage hash marks; as it stands it's no good for moving targets or for wind holdovers. The illumination though is super bright and works even on the brightest days.

 

[Silent_Recon]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
So is IOR halting further sales of the 1-10 until they get the red-dot reticle intensity problem sorted out? </div></div>

You must be kidding. The illumination works, just not to the intensity desired by this particular user. It works in low light and overcast conditions. It may not be a true "daytime visible" and Valdada has changed the product description to reflect this. They will work to increase the intensity of the dot for subsequent production runs I'm sure, but to "halt the sales" of an otherwise amazing scope for a personal preference issue is way over the top. </div></div>

That would be very costly to hault production on an already released optic that is one of a kind in the optics industry..


Question for you Scott. Do you think you could give me a sniper's hide deal If I were to pick up the IOR Eliminator and the new Terminator asap? Im in need of some glass for my lead slingers..

Thanks
-Lydon

 

[Silent_Recon]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only Val/IOR can speak as to the "purpose" of the scope, but to my knowledge the others you mention either don't have the scope, had the scope and recalled it, are crazy overpriced, or a combo of the aforementioned, so "offerings" is kind of a generous term. The IOR 1-10x has no competition at this point, as it is in stock and ready to ship. And it's a true 1x that zooms to 10x, which to my knowledge only March has, but I'm not sure about the dual reticle even there.

I do not believe the price on the scope will change for any improvements in the coming year. At any rate, $2850 is the MAP price, which is rare for the informed internet forum participant to pay these days.

Scott

Scott </div></div>

The S&B will be out at Shot, Leupold's, CQBSS, Horus reticle version is out, and I believe Premier's is out. Apart from Leupold they're all in and around IOR's price point. I don't want to get into a pissing match, I genuinely want IOR's product to be a success, but without an Aimpoint bright red dot reticle there is simply no point in having an optic that is 1x IMO. </div></div>

I don't think you are conceptualizing the concept of this scope. Its a "true" 1x to 10x power scope. Most people who are going to buy this glass are using its low-mid to higher magnification capabilities and have the "option" and benefit to going to a true 1x. If your sole purpose for buying this scope is to utilize it at a 1x magnification for the majority of the time, you need to look at much better suited optics. I would not for one second let an "aimpoint" bright red dot at 1x deter me from buying this awesome product. But, then again, my opinion doesn't mean shit to some!!

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: defcon1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Question for you Scott. Do you think you could give me a sniper's hide deal If I were to pick up the IOR Eliminator and the new Terminator asap? Im in need of some glass for my lead slingers..

Thanks
-Lydon </div></div>

Ummmm yes.

 

[Silent_Recon]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: defcon1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Question for you Scott. Do you think you could give me a sniper's hide deal If I were to pick up the IOR Eliminator and the new Terminator asap? Im in need of some glass for my lead slingers..

Thanks
-Lydon </div></div>

Ummmm yes.</div></div> Please shoot me a private message with pricing, lets make something work. I'm motivated to purchase right away.

Thanks Scott.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: defcon1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: defcon1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Question for you Scott. Do you think you could give me a sniper's hide deal If I were to pick up the IOR Eliminator and the new Terminator asap? Im in need of some glass for my lead slingers..

Thanks
-Lydon </div></div>

Ummmm yes.</div></div> Please shoot me a private message with pricing, lets make something work. I'm motivated to purchase right away.

Thanks Scott. </div></div>

PM sent, thanks

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: defcon1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I don't think you are conceptualizing the concept of this scope. Its a "true" 1x to 10x power scope. Most people who are going to buy this glass are using its low-mid to higher magnification capabilities and have the "option" and benefit to going to a true 1x. If your sole purpose for buying this scope is to utilize it at a 1x magnification for the majority of the time, you need to look at much better suited optics. I would not for one second let an "aimpoint" bright red dot at 1x deter me from buying this awesome product. But, then again, my opinion doesn't mean shit to some!! </div></div>

As a previous poster mentioned above MARCH have a tactical 1-10 power scope (true one power) that has been out for some time. Also I think many will agree that if you are going to have a true one power scope with a dual reticle system that the second plain reticle (which in this case is a dot) should be Aimpoint bright which would then give the user a usable CQB sight. Otherwise what is the point of having the SFP dot?

Question: What would most buyers opt for?

a. A 1-10 power scope <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">without</span></span> a bright Aimpoint type red-dot.

b. A 1-8 power scope <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">with</span></span> a bright Aimpoint type red dot.

The IOR is more expensive than the S&B and is missing one of the main features that the S&B short-dot offers. The extra x2 power is not going to be enough to swing most buyers, whatever the intended application is. Not only can Leupold's, S&B's and Premier's short-dot scopes be used for CQB work they can also be used much more effectively on dangerous game rifles.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Well, there is a new 1-10x just arrived, SFP, bright dot illumination only, no side focus, Mil/mil, lighter, simpler, cheaper, maybe that might appeal to you

Scott

 

[Snape315]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, there is a new 1-10x just arrived, SFP, bright dot illumination only, no side focus, Mil/mil, lighter, simpler, cheaper, maybe that might appeal to you

Scott </div></div>

That sounds similar to the March 1-10x scope.

I like almost everything about it other than the Second Focal Plane (SFP) design.

 

[vtb]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well, there is a new 1-10x just arrived, SFP, bright dot illumination only, no side focus, Mil/mil, lighter, simpler, cheaper, maybe that might appeal to you

Scott </div></div>

Any chance to:
a) see the specs (weight etc.)
b) see the pics (reticle etc.)
c) hear the price?

Thank you in advance

PS
Don't see anything bad in SFP 10x max scope if reticle design is good.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

As soon as I get my hands on one i will share all

Scott

 

[sasquatch98226]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Has anyone tried to "double-stack" the battery to see if the dot brightens ot an acceptable level?

 

[Snape315]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As soon as I get my hands on one i will share all

Scott </div></div>

Thank you.

I'm really looking forward to all of the new offerings coming out.

 

[banshee sws]

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Gorgeous - thanks for the update

 

[jenng]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Nice.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Price of the new model is $2099

Still haven't had a chance to play with one yet but expect to after the new year

Scott

 

[355sigfan]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everything about this scope rocks, except for the weight. <span style="font-weight: bold">I would I would give up the large knobs and some of the higher end of the magnification range for something closer to 20 oz.</span>
</div></div>

Then you'd be looking at something like the new Meopta ZD 1-4.

The ZD weighs in at just over 18 ounces. At just under 10 inches it is the most compact zoom scope with a day-light visible illuminated red-dot on the market today.

http://www.meopta.com/en/zd-1-4x22-1404042235.html

</div></div>
The Swarovski Z6i comes in at 16 ounches and is daylight visible on the brightest days and I much prefer it to my friends Meopta.
Pat

 

[Opticsspecialist]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everything about this scope rocks, except for the weight. <span style="font-weight: bold">I would I would give up the large knobs and some of the higher end of the magnification range for something closer to 20 oz.</span>
</div></div>

Then you'd be looking at something like the new Meopta ZD 1-4.

The ZD weighs in at just over 18 ounces. At just under 10 inches it is the most compact zoom scope with a day-light visible illuminated red-dot on the market today.

http://www.meopta.com/en/zd-1-4x22-1404042235.html

</div></div>
The Swarovski Z6i comes in at 16 ounches and is daylight visible on the brightest days and I much prefer it to my friends Meopta.
Pat </div></div>

that meopta is nice, but the swarovski is the cream of the crop

 

[david777]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Opticsspecialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

that meopta is nice, but the swarovski is the cream of the crop </div></div>

I would agree in the 1-6X range the Swaro optically is tough to beat. I and a friend each had one and we did a simple drop test. The test was each AR with a Swaro mounted ( one in rings and the other in a Larue mount), standing on the buttstock, were allowed to fall over on the ground twice, and then checked the zero. Not a dramatic torture test. Neither one held zero, one was better than the other but neither was acceptable. Hope people you are selling to are having better luck.

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Opticsspecialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

that meopta is nice, but the swarovski is the cream of the crop </div></div>

The Swaro is $1000 more than the Meopta though.

Another scope worth looking at I'm thinking is the new Bushnell 1-6.5x24 FFP Elite Tactical. I think its reticle is Aimpoint bright and costs $1300. Anyone have any intel on this scope? If the reticle is Aimpoint bright its mag range makes it a real competitor.

http://swfa.com/Bushnell-1-65x24-Elite-Tactical-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P51672.aspx

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

My question is, why is a competitor posting in my thread about competing products? Not the best form, Jay.

sititunga1,

We will be stocking the Bushnell and it is an optic of interest, for sure

Scott

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My question is, why is a competitor posting in my thread about competing products? Not the best form, Jay.

sititunga1,

We will be stocking the Bushnell and it is an optic of interest, for sure

Scott

</div></div>

Thanks, is the reticle is Aimpoint bright?

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

The best I can tell there are at least two Japanese OEMs that have developed respectable erector systems with 6x or greater magnification ratios. Hence, I expect to see different versions of these scopes appear from a few different brands.

I have seen a couple here and there and I like what I see so far. Naturally, the specifics of how each scope is configured are up to each company, so it will be interesting to see how they differentiate from each other.

That puts the pressure on European companies which generally sell more expensive products, to add higher magnification ratio products to their portfolios. I think IOR is correct in marketing two models with the dual reticle 1-10x26 and single SFP reticle 1-10x26. The two seem to go for different customers and the simpler SFP scope is a reasonable upgrade for those who currently use 1.25-8x26 or similar scopes. The fancy dual reticle model is a new beast for IOR and it is likely to appeal more to different clientele.

Up to date, the only 1-10x scope on the market has been the 1-10x24 SFP March which is a very competent design except the reticle are a little thinner than I like (although the new MTR-4 looks pretty good on paper, but I have yet to see it live).

March's biggest strength aside from the magnification ratio is its compact size. All of the European options that I have seen look to be bigger and heavier. However, because they were trying to keep the scope as compact as possible, depth of field is shallow and the scope has to have side-focus.

IOR's 1-10x26 SFP looks to be a little more streamlined in operation (no side-focus, I think), but larger. Once I spend a little time with it, I will have a better idea, of course.

ILya

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ILya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

That puts the pressure on European companies which generally sell more expensive products, to add higher magnification ratio products to their portfolios. I think IOR is correct in marketing two models with the dual reticle 1-10x26 and single SFP reticle 1-10x26. The two seem to go for different customers and the simpler SFP scope is a reasonable upgrade for those who currently use 1.25-8x26 or similar scopes. The fancy dual reticle model is a new beast for IOR and it is likely to appeal more to different clientele.

IOR's 1-10x26 SFP looks to be a little more streamlined in operation (no side-focus, I think), but larger. Once I spend a little time with it, I will have a better idea, of course.

ILya </div></div>

The biggest problem scope makers seem to have is the ability to offer a reticle that is Aimpoint bright at x1 power. IOR 1-10 is great, but its SFP reticle dot is not Aimpoint bright and hence fails to hit the mark. It is also 10 ounces heavier than its nearest rivals; S&B and Leupold.

The only makers who have truly managed to achieve this so far are these:

S&B 1-4 and 1-8 Short Dot
Leupold CQBSS
Meopta 1-4 ZD
Swarovski 1-6Zi
Trijicon 1-4 Accupoint

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Opticsspecialist</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LibertyOptics</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My question is, why is a competitor posting in my thread about competing products? Not the best form, Jay.

sititunga1,

We will be stocking the Bushnell and it is an optic of interest, for sure

Scott

</div></div>

don't get upset, i was just commenting on the swarovski vs the meopta, i've used both of those scopes so i can offer feed back. and i having a little fun with the dayforce thing. i was hoping to read some feed back on a 10x erector range scope. why not comment about competing products? i've not said anything negative, whats the harm? i'm more concerned with people getting the right stuff

</div></div>

Jay,

I wasn't upset when I made the original post, and I turned a blind eye to the "dayforce" thing. And you may read all the commentary you wish.

When I check the our profiles, it shows I've been around about 5 years more than you around here. Let me share something. There is an unwritten rule that competing dealers don't post in each others threads. Ask me how I know.

The harm is that I'm trying to make a living too, and when promoting other products you create a distraction and possible business leads your way. Again, it's just poor form. Ask me how I know.

I am concerned with people getting the right stuff too, just because it is not something you offer, doesn't mean it won't work for a lot of shooters.

I happen to think the Swarovski BR 1-6x is an over-priced, over hyped optic with really nice glass, but little else. Ever move your head around at 1x, looks like your image is doing the "Wave". The reticle? Please. But you don't see me posting such in your Swarovski for sale threads. Saying such optic is "the best" in my thread is an obvious and unprofessional slight.

Your response is showing your youth and inexperience, but unlike other dealers, I'm not going to cry to the mods or Lowlight. I will ask you politely to remove your posts from here. If not, just remember two can play at that game, and I'm pretty good at it.

Scott

 

[ranger1183]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Scott,
you've always been good to us on the Hide. Keep up the good work. Your loyalty is known to all.

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Just picked up the SFP version of IOR's 1-10x26 from my mailbox.

Nice looking scope. It is fairly streamlined and, while not lightweight, at 25 ounces or so it is lighter than the dual reticle version.

I really like the feel on the knobs. They are 5 mils per turn, which should be fine for a scope of this type and the clicks are very nicely spaced and tensioned.

Illuminated dot looks to be easily visible on a bright California day on the highest setting.

The magnification dial is marked for the setting where the reticle is in MOA (8.6x), so those so inclined can use it as a MOA reticle at 8.6x or as a mil reticle at 10x.

There is tunneling below 1.25x. From 1.25x to 10x, everything looks good at first glance. For the record, I continue to be impressed with IOR's new eyepiece. It is notably better than IOR's old eyepiece that I have on the 3-18x42FFP. I have now seen this updated eyepiece design on several scopes (3.5-18x50, 6-24x56 and this one) and I continue to be impressed. It is pretty easy to get behind.

ILya

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Cool - can you post some pictures of the scope and pics of the illuminated reticle in bright sunlight. It looks like IOR have resolved the problem from what you're saying - or maybe this is the difference between the SFP and SFP/FFP versions. The member that started this thread said that his dual reticle version of this scope wasn't Aimpoint bright for day light use.

What's the price on the SFP version?

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cool - can you post some pictures of the scope and pics of the illuminated reticle in bright sunlight. It looks like IOR have resolved the problem from what you're saying - or maybe this is the difference between the SFP and SFP/FFP versions. The member that started this thread said that his dual reticle version of this scope wasn't Aimpoint bright for day light use.

What's the price on the SFP version? </div></div>

I'll do an article on the scope and I will take some pictures when I have an opportunity.

The reticle is not Aimpoint-bright. It is, however, bright enough for me to use during the day based on the first glance. This scope is not going to be as fast as a proper red dot sight, like an Aimpoint at short ranges. However, it is still going to be pretty fast at 1.25x.

Generally speaking, the center dot is larger in size than I am used to on the original modified MP-8, so it stands out pretty well.

ILya

 

[sititunga]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

What's the price tag on this version of the scope?

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's the price tag on this version of the scope? </div></div>

No idea.

That is a question for the dealers.

ILya

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sititunga1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's the price tag on this version of the scope? </div></div>

$2099 delivered

 

[dhawkins]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Scott - loving the Eliminator. As some mentioned here, it is a bit heavy, but I love design, ease of use, 1-10 and the dot is bright enough for me here in Southern California. This is my first IOR (USOs and NFs on most setups) and I am very pleased.

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

First look:

IOR 1-10x26SFP: FIrst Look

ILya

 

[vtb]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Ilya, thank you for the "first-look"

BTW - you said that reticle is 4% off at 10x on the scope you're testing - is it larger or is it smaller than should be?

And - what the size of center dot at 10x and 1x in MIL/MOA?

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ilya, thank you for the "first-look"

BTW - you said that reticle is 4% off at 10x on the scope you're testing - is it larger or is it smaller than should be?

And - what the size of center dot at 10x and 1x in MIL/MOA? </div></div>

The reticle is about 4% bigger at 10x than it should be, i.e. if I could take it 10.4x (as marked on the magnification ring) it would be perfectly calibrated in mils.

I am not sure offhand what the size of the dot is (that reminds me that I need to get the reticle dimensions from IOR), but it looks to be about three quarters of MOA at 10x or thereabouts based on a quick look. Keep in mind, that I did not try to measure it, so this is off of my recollection.

ILya

 

[vmpglenn]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ILya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ilya, thank you for the "first-look"

BTW - you said that reticle is 4% off at 10x on the scope you're testing - is it larger or is it smaller than should be?

And - what the size of center dot at 10x and 1x in MIL/MOA? </div></div>

The reticle is about 4% bigger at 10x than it should be, i.e. if I could take it 10.4x (as marked on the magnification ring) it would be perfectly calibrated in mils.

I am not sure offhand what the size of the dot is (that reminds me that I need to get the reticle dimensions from IOR), but it looks to be about three quarters of MOA at 10x or thereabouts based on a quick look. Keep in mind, that I did not try to measure it, so this is off of my recollection.

ILya
</div></div>

Wouldn't you want the magnification to be 10.04x?

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

Ilya,

Thank you for the SPEEDY turn around on this review, we look forward to any more impressions you might have

Scott

 

[koshkin]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vmpgsc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ILya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vtb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ilya, thank you for the "first-look"

BTW - you said that reticle is 4% off at 10x on the scope you're testing - is it larger or is it smaller than should be?

And - what the size of center dot at 10x and 1x in MIL/MOA? </div></div>

The reticle is about 4% bigger at 10x than it should be, i.e. if I could take it 10.4x (as marked on the magnification ring) it would be perfectly calibrated in mils.

I am not sure offhand what the size of the dot is (that reminds me that I need to get the reticle dimensions from IOR), but it looks to be about three quarters of MOA at 10x or thereabouts based on a quick look. Keep in mind, that I did not try to measure it, so this is off of my recollection.

ILya
</div></div>

Wouldn't you want the magnification to be 10.04x? </div></div>

4% of 10 is 0.4.

ILya

 

[vmpglenn]

Re: The new IOR 1-10x26 is here....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ILya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vmpgsc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Wouldn't you want the magnification to be 10.04x? </div></div>

4% of 10 is 0.4.

ILya </div></div>

And this is why my math SAT score was 200 points below my verbal score.